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Are these men everywhere or do I make them like this?!

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User201920192 · 05/02/2019 10:38

I posted about this before but I am posting again because I am still struggling with it. I hope that’s ok.

In September last year I started dating someone, we met up once a week, usually at the weekends. I wasn’t massively into it from day one as he seemed to be, but I did like him. He seemed really calm and straightforward compared with my abusive ex. I did tell the new guy (let’s call him Neil), a bit about my ex (relevant later). I had only ended things with the ex in early summer last year so was keen to go slowly with someone new for this reason as well.

Anyway he went on a stag do in October, after I had seen him 3 times. He messaged constantly, always asking if I was ok every hour, I had to say please stop this feels inappropriate and is making me uncomfortable. He then said he was doing it to re assure me as he didn’t want to do anything wrong like my ex did Hmm at this time he said he wanted to be exclusive and if I was dating anyone else then that was that because he couldn’t see me at the same time. I liked him and although I didn’t think we were at a point to be exclusive, I agreed to only date him and see how it went.

Things came to a head in December when we went away for a weekend to stay with my brother for his 40th party. My family are welcoming and it wasn’t a big deal (to me or to them!) that I brought someone along. He was utterly charming to my family . After the weekend on the Sunday he wanted me to come back to his as I had Monday off. I think we had previously talked about me maybe doing that. Anyway over the weekend he made various crass remarks about people (not my family) that I found distasteful and to be honest I just wanted to go home and take a step back from things and enjoy my day off work in my own house. He went crazy at this. Said I was messing him around and that I was using him and I had given him mixed messages. We had a huge argument and he stormed off to get the train home without me. Literally minutes before hed beeen chatting away to my family like I was the best thing that had ever happened to him.

I saw him again after that after he cried on the train home and begged me to forgive him. He said he didn’t like uncertainty and he had felt that he was being messed around regardless of whether that was actually true or not, it was how he felt. At this point I know I should have walked away. Instead I gave it another go and said that I just needed things to slow down a bit adlnd maybe not see each other every weekend. For the next few weeks he said all sorts to me, going from one minute being normal to the next accusing me of using him and saying things like...

Im crazy and deserved my abuisve ex, he wouldn’t be able to hold feelings for me if he didn’t see me regularly (when I had said let’s not commit to every weekend together at the start), I’m weird and odd, nobody has ever broken up with him before and I must have problems, he is angry at himself because he dismissed a girl who he is sure would have been perfect for him but chose me instead, I used him emotionally and financially...it goes on and on.

He works in a highly paid job with people from very poor backgrounds with a very low IQ. This has meant he has said on many occasions he can read me and is supremely emotionally intelligent and this is shown by his job.

I’m posting because I’m sad that this happened and feel like on some level maybe I caused it like he says I have? I know rationally he has been horrible but did I deserve it? How did I end up with him after I was so sure to be slow with someone after my ex?!

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Doyoumind · 05/02/2019 10:45

You weren't assertive enough. I can be like this. At each point you weren't really sure about him but he was keen so you went along with it. You need to be clear on your gut feeling, make a decision and stick to it. Only date people you feel right about. End it if it doesn't feel right and don't worry about their feelings. You don't owe them anything. He sounds like a nightmare.

Keepcalmanddrinkcoffee · 05/02/2019 10:45

No you didn’t make him like this. This is who he is. You did not deserve any of this treatment. He probably saw how vulnerable you were and thought he could control you. Please look into the Freedom program or see a counsellor to help you realise what to look for in a new relationship.

rumred · 05/02/2019 10:46

It's not just men. There are some very fucked up people about so it's no surprise many of us manage to date them at some point. No one thinks they're a tosser so it takes a while to spot. And maybe, being generous, we can make poor matches. And bring out the worst in another person.
Oh and saying you're emotionally intelligent isn't the same as actually being emotionally intelligent.
Put it down to experience, talk to friends about it and get on with your life

letsdolunch321 · 05/02/2019 10:53

Unfortunately you have to find the good men in a huge haystack - full of bad men.

The first red flag for me was texting you hourly !!! Was he doing this to ease his conscience as he was up to no good 🤨.

Do you know why his previous relationships have finished?

Give him a very wide birth .... block him on everything and don’t look back.

User201920192 · 05/02/2019 13:22

He says his ex wanted to marry him and everyone he’s been out with in the past never wanted things to end, hence why I am the oddity.

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Auntiepatricia · 05/02/2019 13:24

You are not responsible for anyone else’s behaviour. Repeat that another thousand times to yourself.

fairydustandpixies · 05/02/2019 13:25

Run!! Run away!!! Flee!!

Variousartists · 05/02/2019 13:27

It sounds like he was so full on and it put you off. He reacted badly to you wanting to spend time on your own. You are quite entitled to end it with him and don’t owe him anything. Sounds like he had his pride hurt. How dare you finish with him when he is so wonderful! Many arrogant conceited men around like this who cannot handle being dumped. No it wasn’t you.

mindutopia · 05/02/2019 13:29

He sounds unhinged. No, you didn’t make him like this, but it sounds like you have been incredibly passive when you should have ended it very early on.

User201920192 · 05/02/2019 13:34

I’ve had a couple of longer term relationships where I’ve lived with someone, but people do tend to think you’re too picky if you’re not married up! Im always conscious of this and wanted to give him a chance.

The things he said have totally astounded me, I’ve never known arrogance like it, yet at the same time as being awful to me he was desperate to see me? So messed up.

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letsdolunch321 · 05/02/2019 14:05

Definite a screw loose job, It is not you at all. He is the problem - of course his side of the story is all his relationships wanted marriage etc.

If only you got the womens side, they would probably say finishing with him was the best thing they did.

User201920192 · 05/02/2019 14:12

I’ve never known someone be so nice one minute and totally abusive the next! So strange.

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