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Coping with guilt

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Scarlettx · 02/02/2019 21:17

Hi, I’m writing this tonight in absolute despare, I am again feeling at my lowest point and anxiety and guilt have completely taken over me.

I’ve been with my husband for 14 years (4 married) we got together young and I got pregnant when I was 19. Things where very tough from the off, my husband (then boyfriend) wasn’t ready for a child, we was both taken by surprise but I was 5 months pregnant so we decided to keep the baby. After our baby was born he changed. I think he resented me and felt like we was holding him back. He would see all his friends going out and he didn’t as much as them as now he had a family and financially we was on our arse. Anyway over the following 12 years he was pretty mean to me, he would say awful things, but then say he didn’t mean it and apologised. He would often say he didn’t love me, he could do better, or would tell me to pack my stuff and leave after petty arguments. We got married in Mexico, all our family flew out, the night before the wedding we had a petty arguement and he said he wish he wasn’t marrying me... Obviously I was devastated but he apologised once again and said he says things when he’s mad. Now looking back I realise i should of done something more about it and not let it happen but i think it just became normal to me. He was my first boyfriend and I just presumed people do this all the time. He somehow managed to ruin every family holiday and event and would do stupid things like leave me in the middle of nowhere with no money after an arguement or locked me outside our apartment on holiday :-/ .. Now I do realise it was wrong of him to do all that and I probably should of left, but I loved him very much. We also had our daughter , who thankfully never saw all of this or heard the things he said. I can’t really explain why I stayed, I just thought it was acceptable at the time. Anyway fast forward 2 years ago. He was still being an arse to me, (this wasn’t all the time, just every now and then) our daughter has autism and I was really struggling at the time with her needs, I wasn’t coping atall, I decided to do some volunteer work, I met a man who we had an instant connection ( as friends ) over 6 months he would become my safe place, I found myself telling him about arguments we had and what my husband had said to me, he become my comfort blanket, he would make me laugh, hug me when I was sad, tell me I was doing a good job, he just made me feel special like I was worth something, and it’s what I needed, at this point I was so low, everything was getting on top of me and I started to self harm. I felt like crap, worthless and my self esteem was rock bottom, this man picked me back up and made me realise that actually, this is how people should be treated. I’m sure you’ve guessed it from here I ended up falling, I don’t think it was for him, it was for how he treated me and how it and me feel. We would txt all the time, we met up about 5 times, went to the cinemas and nights out and stay at hotels, we never slept together, we did kiss and cuddle though. I decided to end it with my husband, (not for my “friend”) just for the pure fact I had seen the light ( I potentially maybe would of gotten into a relationship after with the “friend” tho. As we did say if I was single we would be good together. Anyway my husband was having none of it and refused to leave the house, this went on for months us being separated but under the same roof, I tried to get another house but found it difficult to find a landlord who would accept housing benefit, meanwhile through all this our daughter hasn’t a clue we wasn’t together, I always have and always will put her needs first, she only needed to know when we had to move out. I have to approach things very differently with her autism and her needs.

After 6 months of still living under the same roof, my husband sat me down, told me how he was sorry and he regrets everything he’s done, said he didn’t mean it and wanted to change, he didn’t want to lose his family, he admitted he had been selfish and nasty towards me over the years. Despite everything I still loved him and would of done anything to make it work, I just wanted to be loved and felt like i mattered.... I decided to cut ties with my “friend” and give my husband the chance to prove he could change, and he did. We had a very tough year with our daughter but managed to get through it as we was finally a team.

I havnt told him about the “friend” he would never forgive me and the marriage would be over.

I know I did wrong, very wrong, and I don’t want anyone reading this to feel like I am justifying what I did by telling you everything he had done, I just want to give you a true picture of how it was. He did wrong and so did I. Just he doesn’t know I’ve done wrong.

But all of a sudden the guilt is eating me up, I know I deserve it, but I can’t think of anything else.

I guess I’m just looking for some advice on how to deal with it, Please don’t tell me to tell him as I really can’t, We are finally in a good place and talking this away from my daughter would be devastating. It’s an extremely slim chance he would ever find out and if he did I would have to deal with it.

I’ve got a lot on taking care of my daughter so I need a clear head. I was thinking of counselling, I really don’t know.

So sorry for the long post x

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Renarde1975 · 02/02/2019 21:26
Flowers

You're husband is an abusive arse. LTB, he'll only drag you down. And he doesnt deserve his daughter and you.

Stop the guilt, right now missus. It doesnt serve you and it doesnt help. Sure, you made a mistake. Own it, put the baggage down and move on.

Scarlettx · 02/02/2019 23:40

Thankyou for replying, your right it isn’t doing me any good, I need to be strong for my daughter, I know I did wrong, but I can’t even think straight with the guilt, it’s tearing me apart. I will try my very best to take your advice of putting down the baggage and moving on. Thanks so much x

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MMmomDD · 03/02/2019 00:10

Given all that went on - you surviving and staying this long with your H is a miracle...
That other guy was something that you needed at the time - and he was more a friend to you, than anything.
You could have - but didn’t actually sleep with him.

If anyone - you H should be feeling guilty and atoning....
The extent of your ‘wrong’ is very very small. Compared to years of abuse from your H.

allaboutHR · 03/02/2019 00:13

Gosh what a muddle. He was wrong for treating you so badly, you were wrong for betraying your marriage vows....so aren't you about even?

Whatever you focus on, you will make stronger. So instead of focusing on your guilt, maybe focus on what you want out of your life?

SandyY2K · 03/02/2019 01:29

Get some counselling...its a good idea and in your shoes I wouldn't tell him.

SandyY2K · 03/02/2019 01:31

How long has your husband been good for? Tbh I'm suprised you aren't resentful of him for his nastiness...I wouldn't be feeling guilty.

Scarlettx · 03/02/2019 08:06

MMmomDD - Thankyou for your reply, he says he feels guilty sometimes, but definitely not as much as I do. I’m going to try my best to put it behind me. X

All about HR - Thankyou for your reply. I really do hope it makes me stronger, I know I would never ever ever do it again that’s for sure so it’s certainly learned me a lesson. X

Sandy - Thankyou for your reply, I do think councelling May be a good idea, it’s already helped speaking on here, It’s been eating me up and with no one to talk to or ask their advice, I just automatically think the absolute worse of myself and that I should be punished. It’s been a year now well about 13 months it’s been good. I don’t resent him as such, however I hate the fact he’s made me a very insecure person now, I hate the way I look, I don’t like myself what so ever and I probably need to work on that, if I hadn’t of done what I did I may feel resentment but I feel like I don’t have the right to now as I’m just as bad. X

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Surfingtheweb · 03/02/2019 08:17

In your head you've made this friendship a big thing to feel guilty about. But it was just a friendship, it sometimes crossed the line but ultimately it saved your marriage. Perhaps if you think of it like that you can put it to bed & move on?

Kennycalmit · 03/02/2019 08:24

This post made me feel really sad for you, OP. Your husband is meant to make you feel loved, safe and happy but over the years he’s made you feel the complete opposite

Don’t feel guilty. Do you think he feels guilty for all the years of abuse?
Yes it’s been a year since he ‘changed’ but that’s nothing compared to a life time. People don’t just change their ways overnight - what has he done to change? Did he get help? Counselling? Anger management?

I hope for you and your daughters sake he really has changed but it has only been 1 year, there’s still plenty time for the mask to slip back off again

I completely understand why you did what you did. I certainly wouldn’t tell him and I certainly wouldn’t be feeling guilty after the way he’s treated you and your daughter

Get some counselling and work on your self esteem. You may wake up one morning and realise you deserve much better than him.

Christian77 · 03/02/2019 08:28

Your only mistake in all of this was meeting and being impregnated by this controlling, abusive, immature little man in the first place.

You sound a decent, kind and sensitive woman.

Move on and build a happier life for yourself.

Renarde1975 · 03/02/2019 09:51

Yeah it constantly surprises me how people don't see NPD abuse for what it is (and it is OP, I'm sorry). NPD is behind pretty much ALL cases of abuse and very certainly behind the two women who die each week at the hands of their partner.

This is because NPD is not as rare as some think. The NPI quoted figure of 4% is wildly inaccurate; it's more like 17% - 1:6 There are very good reasons for this and it's due to a lack of affective empathy.

Out of that 17%, the vast majority are utterly unaware that they are suffering and genuinely believe themselves to be empathic people, good people. Good people do not abuse others. EVER.

I define abuse as cycles of emotional and psychological manipulation, physical harm etc. It cannot be genuine one offs which are normal. Again, it has to be cyclic in nature.

Once you find yourself in this kind of relationship; you go. It will never improve and it's highly likely it will get worse. Highly.

Scarlettx · 03/02/2019 12:05

Thankyou for all your replies.

I do feel like I would be lying to myself if I said it was just a friendship that overstepped the mark slightly. I was very much involved emotionally, I treated him like he was my boyfriend, probably because that’s how I wanted to be treated and I got carried away. I know I was wrong for that.

He didn’t seek any medical help to become this better person, he just did it, which now I’ve just said that, it’s dawned on me he chose to be horrible! Don’t get me wrong, the past 13 months he’s had his moments, but nowhere near how it was. If he was to ever do any of the above things I said he had done, I would be gone in a flash. I can’t go back to being treated like that.

Looking back at it now it probably was an abusive relationship, never really looked at it like that, I had to google NPD, didn’t know what it was, he did have some of them traits yes your right. He would see me heartbroken and didn’t seem to care or show any concern which I found very odd.

I do appreciate all your comments good and bad and take them on board.

I do count myself as a decent person, I’ve never done bad by anyone (before this) and always try to be a good person.

Hopefully I can move passed this and focus more on working on myself and my own issues that I now have.

Thankyou for helping me, I feel much better hearing from you all. X

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