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Advice on DH going NC with his crazy family

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CarolineTheChemist · 28/01/2019 15:27

Hello all - I'm looking for advice from the MN sages on supporting my DH going NC with his family.

He is the youngest of three brothers, with him having a good relationship with the eldest brother, but a dreadful relationship with the middle brother. His mother and father separated a few years ago, but still haven't figured out how to live their lives separately (or like adults). She lives in the family house and is refusing to sell and split it with the father. The three sons have been used by both parents as conduits, mediators, legal advisers, sources of income and referees in this period, and frankly it is a COMPLETE mess.

I posted a more detailed back story to his crazy crazy mental family just a few months ago after it threatened to spill right over into my home....

The Original Story

WARNING: That's a very long OP so I'm going to try to keep this one short(er).

The good news is that since my AIBU post, DH has been very good at standing up to them all. I'm so proud of him BUT as a consequence MIL and middle BIL have scapegoated him. Every time their shit comes his way and DH pushes back saying "its not my problem to fix", they turn on him and tell everyone (and themselves) that DH is the cause of all the upset because he won't play along. DH has also been sympathetic to FIL recently because he has been diagnosed and had surgery for cancer.... imo, FIL has been enjoying this renewed relationship and is using it to be melodramatic about his prognosis. I'm extra wary as my MIL left him due to his controlling manipulative behaviour.....

Things had been relatively calm recently, but then MIL tried to loop DH back in to their crazy shit by demanding DH collect all his belongings from the family home at short notice. DH said he would do this, but he was not able to take time off work to go there until the following week. When DH asked FIL if he'd like to keep any of it for himself, FIL said yes, but played the victim and was not straight and honest with DH about the reasons MIL wanted the stuff gone. Basically, both parents are manipulating the situation for their own reasons and DH is being dragged in again. It ended, predictably, with DH being blamed for all the problems and the subsequent fights that broke out yesterday between MIL, FIL and middle BIL (middle BIL is MIL's codependent and is staying with them both as a mediator for the next fortnight). Even the eldest BIL got dragged in and asked DH why he was refusing to collect his things. When DH and eldest BIL spoke, DH explained what had really happened, how he was collecting his things, but couldn't go at short notice. Eldest BIL said that he had not been given this information, that he was sorry for jumping to conclusions, and that DH had done nothing wrong. He agreed MIL, FIL and middle BIL were all being misleading on purpose.

So, not to rant on for too long... DH has decided he wants NC with anyone other than eldest BIL. He's upset with his Dad for taking advantage of his sympathy and not being truthful, but is still sad that he has cancer and might be dying. I also think NC is the best thing. They bring him nothing but grief and have done for years. When DH told MIL he was going to propose to me, she made her disapproval quite clear in a lovely passive aggressive way. Both MIL and FIL have fallen out with both the older brothers' wives before I'd even met DH. She shows us time and time again how she is incapable of putting her son's needs ahead of her own.

I can't stand any of them anymore. The three of them have behaved so despicably in the last 2 years that people struggle to believe this story is true. I wish it wasn't true. However, I don't want to be encouraging DH to go NC with them for my own reasons (main reasons being less stress and a peaceful life).

What is the best way someone can support a partner who wants to go NC with their family? How can you tell if they're having a blip and want to reach out to them again, but are just going to get hurt again? How can you protect your partner from these crazy unreasonable abusive people?!?!

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agnurse · 28/01/2019 16:38

For now, just follow his lead. If he decides he wants to start contact with them again, I'd ask him some probing questions:

What's the catalyst for him wanting contact again?
What does he hope to get out of the relationship?
Does he recognize that there's no "magic" word, phrase, or action he can do to make them change?

outofthefog.net may be helpful. He might also benefit from reading Toxic Parents.

Drum2018 · 28/01/2019 16:54

Can he collect his stuff in the near future - next couple of days? If so then that's what he should do. Or better still, Is he willing to never see his stuff again? If he is then let him block their numbers and block them on social media asap. Give that a few days and see how he feels. If his eldest brother contacts him make sure he tells him that he is no longer involving himself in those family members lives and that he is not going to engage in any conversation about them. Tell his brother he is not to pass on any information about himself, you and your lives to the inlaws.

Get your Dh to make a list of all the crazy shit that's happened over the years - just simple bullet points. Keep that list somewhere safe and when he feels guilty or is wavering then he can read over the list to remind himself why he decided to go NC. And regardless of whether your Dh stays NC or not, you can choose to remain NC forever more and refuse to engage with them or in conversations about them.

CarolineTheChemist · 28/01/2019 18:07

Thanks agnurse & Drum2018. I like your suggestions, just the sort of handy tips I was looking for...

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Horsemenoftheaclopalypse · 02/02/2019 09:01

Oh this is a good update.

Your DP might benefit from some professional support and LT you will probably need to be v understanding. I am NC with a good portion of my family and it has left a big hole and a lot of sadness which I find resurfaces at unexpected times. I feel an overwhelming sense of loss at time and it’s all rather sad (but less sad than continued contact with people who abuse me.)

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