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I am Charlotte Collins... please advise me

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BigMandy · 26/01/2019 18:21

Like Charlotte is Pride and Prejudice, I married because he was the first person to ever ask me out. My DH is 10 years older than me and we have 3DC.
I am very secretly but massively depressed. No self esteem and binge eating issues. However, two colleagues this week have both described me as "a wonderful asset", "full of such passion and energy" and "with all the skills to go to the top". It came as such a surprise I nearly cried.
My DH is pretty much exactly the same as Mr Collins. Ultimately a "good" person but I find increasingly negative, pours scorn on literally every single idea from which items I can put on for a wash (I kid you not-he literally removes them from the machine and puts them back before I can turn it on) to career thoughts, what our children should study, every single thing. I sometimes joke internally to myself to try and bring up a topic of conversation he couldn't possibly find something to disagree with. He tells the same tired stories to aquaintences who have heard them before. He doesn't hit me and makes a great cup of tea but I feel like I have painted myself into a horrible corner. We NEVER go out. I try to encourage him to spend weekends doing something together with the children, go out, etc but he just wants to stay at home. I am bored and frustrated and life is passing me by.
Please can anyone advise me?

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AFistfulofDolores1 · 27/01/2019 13:26

I really don't think you'll be able to 'manage' yourself or him through this one, OP. You'll pretzel yourself until you lose all sense of who you are, while he either stays the same or doubles-down when you resist.

sackrifice · 27/01/2019 13:28

Stop doing the stuff that he rearranges and spend some money on seeing a divorce lawyer. What is the point of existing like this?

Onceupontwotimes · 27/01/2019 13:31

I don't understand why you don't stand up to him. If he wants to reload the dishwasher let him - it's now his job! Ditto the washing machine. Choose your battles. If you find him annoying, tell him. I get the impression that you have low self-esteem and feel you can't stand up to him. Maybe counselling could help with that. You don't have to agree with your husband all the time. What actually happens if you stand up to him/challenge him?

HeavenlyEyes · 27/01/2019 13:45

Why would or should you try and find ways to tolerate him?

Do you not think you deserve better than him? He sounds at best an undermining condescending prick quite frankly.

This is your life - stop wasting it and choose better for yourself. And stop showing your children how badly a woman should be treated. If a daughter of yours felt this way - you would be telling her to run for the hills surely?

NotAColdWomanHenry · 27/01/2019 13:56

He sounds insecure and pathetic. He needs you to be wrong about everything, even petty little things, so that he is more right that you and therefore more important and better than you, and that makes him feel OK about himself. He probably doesn't think all this through, it's just his habitual MO and at a very deep level he just can't handle the thought that a woman might be as capable as him.

Needless to say you're far, far more capable, as evidenced by what your colleagues said, but years of being undermined has left you doubting everything.

I'm not going to just say LTB, that's easy to say but you have to reach that conclusion yourself and make that decision yourself. It took me years to get my head round the idea even though I knew deep down that I didn't love ex, I had to psychologically build up to admitting it to myself. (Not quite the same issues, he was passive-aggressive, lazy, gaslighting, chauvinist etc, I'm not sure if Jane Austen has an equivalent!)

But I will say that once I got the measure of my ex and stopped trying to think the best of him, and gained an understanding of what he was really up to and how insecure and needy he was, it became easier to detach myself and almost play bingo in my head with him, just observing and mentally recording the stuff he did, and using it to make me stronger and more determined. I kept a (very well hidden) diary about his behaviour, and I began collecting "special" things - just a nice teacup here or a nice pillowcase there - that were for me and that he couldn't ruin for me, and hiding them. It helped me feel like I had a secret "self" that he couldn't touch, and helped me build up to ending it.

The thing is if and when you gain this strength, you will probably naturally become more keen to leave. For me, I'm 3 years down the line and still pinch myself because it's so great that I don't have to live with him.

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crimsonhair · 27/01/2019 13:57

I would aski him (and I did that to my ex) - are you talking like that to your colleagues at work? If not then don't be so rude here at home. Keep repeating every time he puts you down or is rude.

PurpleWithRed · 27/01/2019 13:57

Ok, so here is my story - let it be a warning to you. I also made a Charlotte Collins choice. I was miserable for years, but couldn’t see a way out - too hard, how could I manage on my own, what about the children etc etc (although I did contemplate ‘accidental’ suicide a few times). I should have just left. But unfortunately I met someone wonderful, and I started an affair. Even at the time I couldn’t hack it and as soon as XDH started to get suspicious I confessed.

Immediately I was even more in the wrong than I had been for the past 16 years, and finishing the marriage became impossible because XDH was willing to forgive me, take me back, and make some changes.

So it was another two years before I was finally strong enough to end the marriage. And when I did end it I discovered just how capable and strong I was, and that while the process of separation was a bit ugly the long term benefits were worth every minute of stress and every penny of solicitor’s bills.

Since then XDH and I have both remarried and are happy and settled, and the kids are grown up and fine. XDH is actually a better and nicer person without me.

So think on: plan, ponder, consider. Allow yourself some time to imagine how wonderful your life will be without him in it to motivate you to take action. And don’t make my mistakes.

Moffa · 27/01/2019 14:33

Thank you purplewithred

I needed to read that x

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