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I don't know if my marriage can survive

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irnbrubaby · 18/01/2019 17:12

Name changed, I've discussed this with a few friends who read MN and I don't want them to know my usual posting name if they happen to read this.

I have been with my husband for 15 years, married for 13.5. We have three dc. We've had our share of arguments and ups and downs, but we've always been good at making up and we've always been committed to being together.

A few months ago my husband took up meditation and soon after that discovered an individual who claims a bunch of things about reality, consciousness and so on. He's really got into that stuff. He has made huge, sweeping changes to his life. He is a different person.

He says he feels so much happier and better, and he says he is a better person now.

I am so unhappy. I feel like my husband disappeared overnight and a stranger took his place, and that because many of the sweeping changes he has made (such as suddenly becoming teetotal, going vegan, cutting out sugar, getting up early every day to meditate) are objectively healthy and 'good', it is seen as unreasonable for me to say "but you are not the man I married and I am not happy".

Everything has changed. If I met him now, I wouldn't want to be in a relationship with him. That doesn't mean he is a 'bad' person or is doing something 'wrong'- it just means that the attraction would not be there and he would not be someone I would want to start or have a relationship with. I seriously doubt the man he has become would want to be with me if he met me for the first time now, either!

The biggest problem we have, I think, is that I have lost an awful lot of respect for him as a person due to the stuff he has started to believe. Once your respect for your partner is going, what hope does a relationship have? I know people will think I am a horrible, stuck up bitch for this- and maybe I am, but that doesn't change how I feel. I cannot magically develop an 'all opinions are of equal worth' approach, I'm not someone who thinks "I believe the stars in the sky are made when God crumbles up the full moon at the end of each month" (this is not one of my husband's new beliefs, I've just nicked it from a brilliant book as an example) is a belief of equal worth and status and is as deserving of equal respect and attention as the belief that "stars are luminous spheroids of plasma held together by their own gravity". One of those beliefs is backed up by scientific observation and evidence and research and experimentation and one isn't.

I've said to him today (by text) that we need relationship counselling. But what the hell can any counselling do for us? He has become someone else. I have stayed the same- and I cannot be the partner the new him wants, surely. And he has attached himself to a set of beliefs that to me demonstrate the holder is really quite fucking stupid. Whether or not I am right about that (perhaps he is 100% correct and I am the stupid one and a bunch of hallucinating meditation aficionados know much more about The Truth than the world's scientists), the problem is the contempt I feel and the fact that if he truly believes the things he says now, he is not the man I thought he was.

I don't want this to be a "who is right?" thing. I'm not looking to parcel out blame. It's not a case of, let's have an argument about it all or invite others to argue it, and the 'winner' gets to choose what happens next: it's a case of I am not happy. Imagining divorce breaks my heart, I've started crying even writing this. I don't want divorce, I want the marriage and husband I thought I had. But imagining this for the rest of my life is also horrible and miserable and makes me feel sick.

Should we go for counselling? What should we do?

If you want to be blunt, be blunt, but I'd be really grateful if you could also be kind, because I feel dreadful.

OP posts:
Dunin · 19/01/2019 19:37

I totally understand OP. I’d really struggle if my DH became vegan, let alone all the other stuff. One thing we enjoy together is going for a good meaty nosh up. If we couldn’t do that anymore and he became super religious I’d struggle to like or fancy him and I’d have to reassess the marriage.

NotANotMan · 19/01/2019 19:41

Maybe he'll get over it? My parents joined a meditation cult when I was aged 6-11. They got over it but tbh I have less respect for them than I would have done if they hadn't fallen for it.

madcatladyforever · 19/01/2019 19:43

It's very hard when someone changes completely and leaves you out. My ex husband suddenly got heavily into fetish and transvesticism and quite honestly I couldn't stand the sight of him anymore. I put up with it for a few years and then enough was enough. All of these new people were suddenly his new best friends and nobody else in his life mattered any more.
I think you should go to counselling to work out if you really want to be with him or call it a day.

CatnissEverdene · 19/01/2019 19:49

It's a different scenario OP but I used to be so close to my sister. We lived in the same village, walked our dogs together every day, and she and her DP helped us raise our DCs in spite of not having their own. Then literally overnight she became different.... turns out she'd gone on an Alpha course about Christianity, and she's now a religious zealot. It's like the person she was has gone and been replaced by this pompous and pious smug know it all who is patronising and irritating beyond belief. We are NC because I just can't bear to be around her, and she's isolated herself from all of her old friends and family... the only people allowed in her life now have to share her beliefs and ways. I liken it very much to her being in a cult... and brainwashed.

It's been absolutely heartbreaking, and I deeply mourn the person she used to be..... I think you need to sit him down and explain how much this is alienating you. And as an aside, if he's dumped friends etc I'd be a little bit concerned at who is putting these thoughts in his head. Someone who is a little bit vulnerable for whatever reason is often a prime target.

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