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"Believe what you like."

17 replies

Fortunatelymine · 17/01/2019 11:23

I don't use this phrase myself. As far as I can recall, the only time someone said it to me, they were lying (I knew what had actually happened), and obviously not going to tell the truth at all. I now associate this with someone being untruthful. And h used it tonight when I was asking him about something. He also has form for lying.
If you use this phrase, under what circumstances do you use it? Avoiding the whole truth? Fudging? Annoyed with someone who doesn't take your word as law? Or something else.
And how has someone used the phrase in conversation with you?
I'd like to think I'm overthinking it, but there's something dismissive about this phrase imo.

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helpmeoutout · 17/01/2019 11:28

i think it depends on how exactly it is said...I'm not sure if I have said it or not, but I am likely to resort to saying that if I got fed up of someone not believing me. I would say something like that and not want to speak or repeat myself on teh issue again. I wouldn't say it because I was lying.

EhlanaOfElenia · 17/01/2019 11:28

I've only ever used it when the other person hasn't listened to my true explanation and continued to give me grief about the situation, telling me I was lying. I quite honestly didn't care if they took off and I didn't see them again for a long time, if ever. In my case it was siblings.

I was effectively dismissing them. In my case rightly. In your case? If you know that you're not going overboard and making stuff up, then he is dismissing you and what you are saying. He doesn't want to know, or to answer truthfully.

Bumblebee39 · 17/01/2019 11:29

I've said "believe what you like" when being accused of lying about something I was telling the truth about because I was sick of protesting my innocence even though I was innocent.
So doesn't necessarily mean they're lying, though if they have form??

purpleme12 · 17/01/2019 11:29

Actually I'd say I'd use it in a situation where I'm saying the truth but the other person is refusing to believe me and I can't convince them so give up and just say believe what you like

Coolaschmoola · 17/01/2019 11:30

I've only ever used it when someone has accused me of lying when I haven't.

redexpat · 17/01/2019 11:36

I use it when DH is mansplaining social policy to me when its basically my job and he wont accept what Im telling him.

inkydinky · 17/01/2019 11:39

Same as PPs. I've used it only when someone is refusing to listen to the truth and I don't have the patience to explain further (because they're not going to listen and it's pointless). I'm generally truthful however, and see that a liar could make good use of this phrase.

Karigan195 · 17/01/2019 11:43

Usually when the other person has pissed me off enough that I no longer care if they believe what I am saying!

fusioluxe · 17/01/2019 11:47

The biggest liars I know are MIL and FIL and they have never used the phrase. They would argue for HOURS to try and bully you into believing them rather than letting you believe what you want to believe!

I think it’s a confidence thing. The person who says it really doesn’t care about your opinion of them.

Boysandbuses · 17/01/2019 11:51

I say it. Particularly to my ex husband, who always thought I must be shagging around or doing something he wouldn't like. Such as speaking to someone.

By the end I could have given a shit if he believed me or not. Got fed up with trying to defend myself all the time.

lottiegarbanzo · 17/01/2019 12:03

I'd use it when someone refuses to believe the truthful thing I tell them AND their belief or otherwise has no impact on me.

So, they're trying to argue with me about something. I am saying 'I have no need to argue with you, because it doesn't matter to me what you think'. i.e. if you wish to remain stuck in ignorance that's your problem, your choice and I am finding your attempt to draw me in, to validate your ignorance, by allowing you to go away with the mistaken impression that you have argued with me and won, really tedious. I refuse to take part.

To put it another way, I already know I'm right. I don't need to prove it to you to make it 'real'. (And you are clearly not intersted in listening and learning, only telling).

lottiegarbanzo · 17/01/2019 12:10

Of course it's dismissive. Of course it means he doesn't care what you think about this thing.

Whether that's because you're right but he doesn't care about your opinion and its consequences, or you're wrong and likewise, I don't know.

CandidCat · 17/01/2019 12:17

I only use this phrase when I have told the truth and am persistently not believed. If someone refuses to hear the truth there comes a point where all you can do is leave them to believe what they like. Possibly liars also use this phrase when they realise you won't swallow their bs? I wouldn't know, I'm vey honest (and gullible)!

deepwatersolo · 17/01/2019 12:17

I've only ever used it when the other person hasn't listened to my true explanation and continued to give me grief about the situation, telling me I was lying.

This.

SilverySurfer · 17/01/2019 12:42

It doesn't necessarily mean a person is lying if they say 'believe what you like'. I recently said it to a friend who insisted something was true when it wasn't. She went on and on and I ended up saying this phrase.

Picklypickles · 17/01/2019 13:24

I've said it before a few times, if someone refuses to believe me when I am speaking the truth then what else can I say really?! I'm not going to continue wasting my time and breath on anyone who calls me a liar if I'm not one!

Musti · 17/01/2019 14:22

I've only ever used it when the other person hasn't listened to my true explanation and continued to give me grief about the situation, telling me I was lying.

This.

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