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Should I give on wife and son of 2 years old?

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Divorcedfather · 17/01/2019 09:51

Hello to everyone,

I would really appreciate your opinion on this topics, as I am running out of both ideas and energy and I am really really desperate because I don't have a clear mind to make rational decisions. I will try to keep my story as short as possible. Thanks in advance for reading my story and giving me your opinion.

Long story short, my wife and me we were really in love, were together for 3 years, had many discussions about wanting a family and agreed to have a baby.

After the baby was born all the problems started and especially after many failed breastfeeding attempts. She tried depseratelly to breastfeed the baby, but some times there was a problem with the latching, sometimes it was here not producing enough milk. The baby was in a critical condition at some point because it wasnt gaining enough weight and the gp warned us that the baby would have to be hospitalised. Thats where I stepped in and offered my wife the chance to breastfeed him and after the breastfeeding to give him a bottle of milk if he was still hungry. She never forgave me that even though I saw it as a compromise 50-50.

Since that day I became literally the mother of my son and the mother of my wife. I can only tell you that I lost 20 kilos in 2 years. Dont also forget that I was working full time while she was staying at home and doing everything.

From the day the baby was born, she never did anything by herself. She started sleeping at night with the baby, argued then that it was too much for her being sleepless so slowly I was the one who was permanently sleeping with the baby.This started also before the breastfeeding. She started feeding the baby, then argued that the baby is not listening to her and gave me the feeding responsibility. So after a few months I was literally raising the kid, even though I wasnt asking for it. Even I was the one doing the dishes, cleaning the house and going to the supermarket.

Dont think that at the same time I didnt love my wife and didnt do anything that I could to make her feel strong again. I also started taking the kid to the kindergarden so that she has time for herself. I helped here send cvs to get a job, because she said she wanted to work again. I was taking her out for dinner and lunch, so that she is not trapped in the flat. I also sent her many times to a spa and bought here many many gifts. I was trying to introduce here to people and especially other mothers so that she can speak with them.

Emotionally thinking, I was kissing here every night before going to bed, was trying to hold hands, was telling here that I am there for here, was tring to organise romantic nights when the baby was sleeping and so on.

But I could sense that she was not happy. Even though I was trying to give he courage that she is the best, that I love her and so on, she somehow seemed to not care.

I did mistakes too, I wasnt a saint. After some sleepless nights in a row, when I didnt get at least a thank you, an appreciation of my actions or at least a hug, I was reacting a bit overwhelmed. Especially when she was giving me more and more responsibilities because I was burning out. When I say overwhelmed, I never hit here or swear, I was just a bit louder and tense.

Guess what happened? A few days ago she took our kid without my permission and dissapeared overseas to her parents. When I went after to find her, she had decided to stay with her parents and that she didnt love me anymore. I was talking to her the whole day, but I could see in her eyes that she had enough. She filled already a divorce, 2 weeks after she left.

Where I feel betrayed is that she never ever talked to me about what here thoughts were. I thought that by helping I would relieve here, so that she can slowly start standing on her own feed.

Could anyone of you please tell me what you think happened with here? Is there anything I can do to save the situation? Did I do anything wrong? How can I see my son from now on.

Many many thanks from a divorced and left behind father

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SandyY2K · 17/01/2019 13:32

The baby needed to eat. I had a friend dead set in BF... but it wasn't working and the baby was losing weight.

Her DH got formula and she was upset. He did not want to see his DD starving.

BF is great if it works...but a child being fed is paramount.

OP... I can only say to follow legal advice. It's wrong of her to take the baby away like this.

I would not sign any divorce papers until you sort out custody.

Divorcedfather · 17/01/2019 13:51

Hi SandyY2K the problem is, that legally speaking, the court in EU court will decide custody only when it come to divorce. You understand the trap? I cannot know who takes custody if I dont agree to a divorce. So what would you do? The court in this EU country claimed that this court is in charge...

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Karigan195 · 17/01/2019 13:55

OP with the greatest respect have you tried phoning reunite or similar yet? You seem to be quite blinkered by the civil court stuff and aren’t even looking at everything else you can do. Get off the internet and discuss it with the experts. Phone reunite. If you don’t like them there are other groups that are similar. Phone the police as it is child abduction once 4 weeks is exceeded. But please don’t just sit on mumsnet repeatedly saying I can’t. Go find out what you CAN do.

Divorcedfather · 17/01/2019 14:11

Hi Karigan195, will do you are right.

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NewFitMe · 17/01/2019 15:12

I thought you weren’t allowed to take a child abroad without the written consent of the other parent? I’m EU citizen and gave birth in the UK. We now live in my home country (my partner is British). After giving birth, our relationship was quite bad and I was looking into how I could move back with my baby and without my partner. Luckily we managed to save the relationship.

And also would think the court would be on your side because your partner took the child without permission? I’ve seen articles on papers where other parents have taken their babies away to other eu countries (their home country) because the other parent has been abusive and they have lost the court case because they broke the law (even if the other one was abusive). It’s so unfair sometimes.

Divorcedfather · 17/01/2019 15:23

Hello NewFitMe,

Now I will tell you the trap. We went on christmas holidays to the EU country and once we landed, her family was waiting for her, she told me she will never return with me, graped the kid and dissapeared! And I was left all alone there, went to the police and they said there is nothing they can do. I had to take her to court the police told me. And thats what I did, I took her to court about the custody of my son, but it takes months! Its driving me crazy.

I tried to contact the charity for over an hour now, but employees are busy and we arranged to speak first thing tomorrow morning.

I was reading about that kind of stuff only in newspapers, nevers expected it to hit me...

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MissLanesAmericanCousin · 17/01/2019 15:25

Hi OP, I didn't want to read and run. I'm also from the U.S, so I have no legal or practical advice to offer. I just wanted to offer a hand hold and hug, and to say I really hope this situation gets resolved quickly and that you get your family back. The mother and your son are in my thoughts today.

For all of you, Flowers

NewFitMe · 17/01/2019 16:03

What a nasty thing to do!! I’m so sorry. Hopefully you’ll get some good advise tomorrow. Is she talking to you anymore? Maybe write to her how much you miss your child and want to be part of his life.

Sorry I can’t give you better advise and hopefully everything turns to better 💐

Divorcedfather · 22/01/2019 12:09

Just for your Info,

I filed an application to get my son back based on "Convention of 25 October 1980 on the Civil Aspects of International Child Abduction".

Does anybody have an experience doing that? Because I am quite confident that my son must return based on that! Or not?

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madmum5811 · 22/01/2019 12:23

So sorry things are such a mess. I hope someone is caring for your child now because your wife will miss your input childcare wise.

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