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Ex making life hell

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alicebloomers12 · 09/01/2019 12:14

Hi everybody, im feeling very depressed at the moment so please bare with me! :)

My ex left in november 2017. Mutual decision, no issues he left the home and we both got on with our lives with him having our son every other weekend pick up friday drop off sunday. All good. He moved in with the woman he had been cheating on me with and about one month in he starts refusing maintainence. I thought no worries i'll just go through CMS which i've done so at least when it comes to payment i've got somebody fighting my corner.

Fast forward i've met a wonderful man who adores me and my children exactly how we always deserved to be adored and we are all very happy. Ex seems fine that i've met someone (not that he has any room to talk anyway) and its all bumbling along nicely. My partner asks us to move in with him in essex (im originally suffolk) i agree as first most importantly i think its a very positive step in our relationship and we work well as a unit as well as a family unit and also where i was living was absolutly terrible. the house was full of mould, the area was becoming rife with drugs and stabbings and if anything my partner couldnt bare to see us living there. I told my sons dad who kicked off saying that i cant take his son away from him. I explained we are only moving 40 minutes away and i am not going to put my life on hold for his convinence. I am also not going to stay in a terrible place for his convinence neither. also 40 minutes in my opinion isnt an unreasonable distance. He kicks of majorly, starts threatening me with court to take my son away, threatens me with my mental health. (my divorce was granted purely based on the fact that my ex was incredibly abusive towards me and made my mental health so bad i was almost hospitalised) Also threatening to call the police saying that im breaking the law by taking our son out of the county. (yes seriously, all tactics to try scare me and control me that i'm used too and would have worked many moons ago) Luckily after counselling and healing and having a fantastic support network his empty threats havent phased me and i just keep calm explaining that this is what is happening and he cannot stop that. He agrees to pick up and drop off to carry on as normal. I never denied him our son.
Heres where it gets worse. He agrees to pick up and drop off and then over the space of the year nearly every weekend that he see's our son when it comes to dropping him home he messages me with an excuse as to why he cant for example, his dad is ill, (his dad is fine we have a very good relationship) his girlfriends son is ill (in my opinion doesnt affect the drop off) when i reply saying that these excuses arent good enough he then gives me the real reason which is that he feels he shouldnt have to drop him home because i am the one that moved away. I should be the one to pick him up. I and other people i have contacted disagree with this as first off, i am the primary carer and he is the absent parent. if he wants contact which i am offering with his son and being more than reasonable with he should collect and drop off. secondly i have another child who gets dropped off by her dad on the sunday also (he has no problem with the arrangement) and i have to be home for her also. Thirdly i am now pregnant (yay) meaning that i am finding it difficult to get around and still wouldnt be able to pick up my son when i have two other children to look after and he has none and no reason not to drop him off. His only reason is to carry on with trying to control me. These issues have been prevelant and every other sunday i am terrified he wont bring him home, he refuses to bring him home and countless time family members of mine and my partner have had to collect my son. My ex is purely doing this out of spite and no other reason.
He also is avoiding paying child maintanence by registering as self employed and job hopping refusing to stay in a job longer than one or two months and then not informing the cms making their lives harder too. He has arreears now and the enforcement team are back on his case. He threatened me with the cms saying he would pay me if i dropped the case but i refused knowing him to be a liar. we fast forward to christmas and drop off/collection seems to be going okay. apart from the fact my son no longer wants to go to daddys and says that daddy is unkind and he wants to stay home. His behaviour reflects this when he does come home and he spends all week trying to bargin with me so he doesnt have to go. I always say he should and he will have fun but it is heartbreaking (he's 3 and i've called health visitors to help us with this) I get a phone call from mediation saying that my ex has now decided he wants me to go to mediation to discuss "parenting" issues and i assume the drop off situation. I rang the mediator to say that i cannot get to ipswich (where he wants the mediation, again control) because i have two children here who obviously have school and nursery and i am also now heavily pregnant struggling with moving so is there any alternative, she was lovely and very understanding and rang my ex who said he would discuss it with me when he see's me and decide if he wants to pursue mediation. I've messaged him to say that a discussion when he seems me isnt an option because its unfair on our son to drag out the pick up process when he's already screaming for me not to make him go. (its very traumatic and i dont know what i can do about it if im honest) Im waiting for him to reply.
Lastly i've had to call the police on him very recently because he is commiting fraud against my address (sending debt collectors letters here so they come to my door instead of his) when he has never lived at this address. The police are investigating rightly so and thankfully the debt collectors were very understanding when i explained the kind of man he is and that the police were involved. but its just another thing to add to the pile.

which leaves me here. I am at my wits end. I am tired and i feel my mental resiliance i've built slipping away with his constant chipping away at it. with all that goes on that i've explained he also openly mocks me and is generally horrible when he see's me to collect our son. I ignore the comments but it goes build up. I dont know what else to do. I have minimal contact with him (he tries to message me about things not relating to our son and i ignore the messages) and when he does message me about our son i obviously reply. it just seems like he cant leave me alone? not my son i dont expect that and like i said i've never denied contact i've even offered additional in holidays and things despite the fact my son openly says he hates going.
How can i manage him in a way that it doesnt affect mine and my partners lives? it seems that there is always something if its not him refusing cms its him shouting at me about drop offs if its not that its threats of mediation which seems completely pointless and now there is fraud involved. Are there any charities or groups that could maybe help me? Like i said earlier he was a very abusive partner and my divorce petition is based on that and i still feel like i am suffering from him even though i've done all the things i can think off to get away.

Any advice would be helpful or even just a virtual hug. lol

xxx

OP posts:
WhoPooped · 09/01/2019 12:31

I understand your ex is an unreasonable and abusive.
However I don’t think his BU with regards to the drop offs/pick ups. In my opinion because you moved away (he had no choice in this) then it should be split.
Either you drop off or pick up, I don’t see why he should have to do all the now increased travelling because you chose to move.
If he had moved I would be saying the same to him

WhoPooped · 09/01/2019 12:34

Also do not communicate with him at all unless it’s to do with your son. Simply ignore him (I know easier said than done, I’ve been there myself!)

Try not to give him head space and also don’t offer him any extra time, if he wants it he’ll ask, and he can ask in a polite and civil manner or you make it clear you won’t be responding

WhoPooped · 09/01/2019 12:35

Lastly (((hugs))) xx

hellsbellsmelons · 09/01/2019 12:43

Firstly, how old is your DS?
You should be doing all you can to support him - not your Ex.
2nd - You moved away so it should be you who takes on the excess with pick up and drop off. Meeting half way would be a good starting point.
3rd - Never ever have mediation or any kind of counselling with an abuser. The mediator will know this and you just need to explain to them regarding the abuse and they should then refuse to go ahead (if they are any good)
4th - keep on top of the police and make sure the fraud gets sorted out asap.
5th - solicitor. If communication with him is abusive I would get a solicitor involved and advise that he can only communicate with you via the solicitor.

6th - tell his partner all about the fact that he won't leave you alone. Send proof if you have to.
7th - if your DS is very distressed about going to his dads then please consider involving SS. He should not be made to go somewhere that he hates and where people are unkind to him.

Thesnobbymiddleclassone · 09/01/2019 12:49

If you'd moved somewhere 2 hours+ away I'd get his point but 40mins. He needs to grow up! Maybe offer every now and then but as a permanent no way.

bluesaturday · 09/01/2019 12:56

He may of been abusive to you but is he a good dad? You moved away so therefore should be doing the majority of drop offs and pick ups.

Topseyt · 09/01/2019 13:03

If DS is distressed about having to go to his Dad's then perhaps you should suspend contact for a while until you are sure what is actually going on. What might be mean when he says that his daddy is unkind? You need to be sure.

Is the contact court ordered, or just what you have agreed between you?
You might need to involve a solicitor and/or social services.

Redbus1030 · 09/01/2019 13:32

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Doyoumind · 09/01/2019 13:44

Do not stop contact. That is bad advice that will go against you unless you have the backing of SS.

Your ex is abusive and controlling but he's not entirely wrong about doing all of the driving and may be successful arguing this point in court. As you chose to move it's not unreasonable for you to take on some of this responsibility.

You can't remove him from your life entirely because of your DC. He will have a say regarding which school he goes to etc. You need to be aware of this because he can cause you more problems if you make these decisions without involving him.

PrettyLovely1 · 09/01/2019 13:46

You moved away you should do the pick up and drops offs.

Get solictors involved regarding contact and anything abusive.

SandyY2K · 09/01/2019 13:50

He sounds nasty BUT I don't think he's being unreasonable about the pick and drops.

You should split it. You moved away and he has the increased travel costs.

I understand all the other points...he is wrong on those ones.

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