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Both married. Communication making me uneasy.

105 replies

Peppapigonrepeat · 09/01/2019 04:32

I’m in the wrong here, I know that. You’ll read this and be surprised that I’m actually an intelligent woman, with a career that requires me to be responsible, yet I’m behaving like my 18yo former self. I can’t talk to anyone about it, so I’m trying here. Here goes .....

I’m a married mother of 3. We’ve been happily married for 7 years. In most ways we still are happily married, but I’ve had my head turned. My husband is fantastic in every way, we have a good sex life although I feel like it’s routine rather than him really ‘wanting’ me. I’m not sure I still fancy him, but that seems minor in the grand scheme of everything we have. On paper I have everything. I’ve never cheated, it’s not been a thing I’d considered. I’d never wanted to. But obviously I’m writing in the past tense now, so it’s no longer the case.

The OM is in a pretty similar situation. Lovely kids. Lovely wife.

There’s a man, who is the husband of a friend and the father of my chidren’s friends. We’ve known each other for a few years. He’s always been very chatty, verging on flirty, but that’s his nature. There was never anything more to it. Then there was a very drunken night where we ended up kissing. It’s not an excuse, I don’t even remember the build up to it, he initiated a lot of it, but I woke the next morning knowing what I had done. I decided that it was best to try and forget it had ever happened, although I had felt completely exhilarated by it. I didn’t feel particularly guilty, I just knew it was a bad idea. I messaged him in a jovial manner just saying to erase it from our memories. I thought that would be that.

I saw him a few days later at my son’s sports lesson and I assumed we’d pretend it didn’t happen. Instead though he told me he wanted it to happen again, and more. I was quite taken a back, in a stupidly flattered way. He was desperate that this remained under the radar, neither of us wanting our spouses to know. It all seemed a bit too perfect: a bit of passion that wouldn’t hurt anyone.

Anyway, this was a few weeks ago, he’s been in touch regularly, but not consistently. I’ve seen him, but nothing more happened other than a bit of flirting that no one else would know about. I really like him, he makes me feel attractive and sexy. He’s intelligent and funny and we talk easily. As I said he’s not in contact constantly, every few days, very much when it suits him I suppose.

That was until this weekend where we’ve started having texts that got way more racy. Him leading it, but me most definitely encouraging it. A phone call where he made his feelings about me very clear: he wants me, he’s never done this before, he doesn’t know how it’ll work, but he’s desperate to try. I really want him.

We met, very briefly, very incognito, a few nights ago. Things got heated, but nothing more than a passionate kiss. He left after telling me he didn’t want to fall for me (I know, cheesy line of the century!) and now he’s gone silent. I tried messaging him, he did reply, but in a very disengaged manner.

I feel absolutely bloody stranded! I can’t mention this to anyone, and whatever the outcome I’ll take it to my grave. I’ve never been in this situation before. I’m assuming he has the major guilts and that by not being in contact he’s trying to convince himself that he hasn’t done anything wrong. I feel like he got what he wanted and now he’s legged it, although I don’t think he did really get what he wanted!! If he doesn’t want any more then I’ll walk away, I’m not going to cause trouble. But what if he’s confessed to his wife (highly unlikely!)? I’ve got to see him in a few days anyway (child related) so it’s not like we can blank each other, I just don’t know how to attack this. Shall I message him? Shall I just wait for him? How much does that sound like an adolescent talking? I’m mortified by myself. Help please!

OP posts:
AnyFucker · 09/01/2019 07:13

Yawn

CatnissEverdene · 09/01/2019 07:14

You're turning this into some sort of love story in your head.

And it so isn't a love story. It's all a bit dirty and sordid. And it will wreck your family.

Block his number. Now. And hope and pray that his irate wife isn't on her way to your front door with his phone in her hand demanding to know what's going on..................... what you've already done could end your marriage.

Kittykat93 · 09/01/2019 07:16

Poor you op Hmm

CheekyFuckerHQ · 09/01/2019 07:16

This is a dangerous game. At this point, if someone was to discover those texts, you have already got yourself in a mess.
Suppose his wife or your husband seebthat evidence. They’re not going to believe it’s “just a snog”.
You need to stop now. Before it all blows up in your face. And then you need to tell your husband what has been going on. Put yourself in his shoes. Poor man.

UnmentionedElephantDildo · 09/01/2019 07:21

Look, OP, if you want an affair, go and fill your boots. It'll be easy for you, as the huge boundary you need to breach to snog someone else has already been breached.

But I would counsel you to do it with someoneother than this man. You do not seem to have given a though to the extra misery that will land on your DC because you shat on yours. doorstep.

If you have the slightest regard for them, choose a different person to cheat with.

IamIwas · 09/01/2019 07:21

Are you sure you didn’t have sex? You say he got what he wanted and now he has disengaged? Sounds like to me.

NicolaStart · 09/01/2019 07:25

“He was desperate that this remained under the radar, neither of us wanting our spouses to know”

Of course he has done it before. Him with tne flirty approach ‘but that’s just his nature’.

Who knows why he went cold? Is busy with his family rather than but in the side / has found a quick shag at works / has had a waking of cjnscirnce and common sense or (worst of all, for your life, his wife found out.

FFS.

Imagine the fall out in your local life, and chilten’s lives.

It is wonderful to get an adrenaline boost, the flattery, when you are in a humdrum life, tnere’s mo denying that.

But getting a thrill from bungee jumping doesn’t mean you should leap off a bridge without s rope.

Oh, and there is another possibility: that he went quiet specifically to get you to pursue him. After all you emphasise that he led everything so far. And now his silence is prompting you to ‘attack’

Stay well clear.

NicolaStart · 09/01/2019 07:29

“‘I didn’t contact you because I’m falling for you and I’m scared. I’ve never felt like this before’

Then you will suck his cock in the car park at football practice. That’s why he’s done it.”

This is how it goes, yup!

Glamorous.

TheVanguardSix · 09/01/2019 07:32

he’s gone silent. I tried messaging him, he did reply, but in a very disengaged manner.

What are you doing, OP? Give your head a wobble. "Think about the children" and all of that. You do not need to message him. You have not been used or dumped. He's just woken up to the fact that this is a TERRIBLE idea. You need to wake up to this as well.

What on earth is there left to say about the matter?

NicolaStart · 09/01/2019 07:33

Just picture his wife reading your texts....,

We know from MN how bad men are at leaving their smutty mess on their phones for wives to find.

Ladymacmuff · 09/01/2019 07:34

You know this is not going to end well if you carry on right? This is called shitting in your own doorstep amongst other things - it's waaaay to close to home for you to consider there could be anything other than an almighty, embarrassing mess if you carry on, not to mention the excruciating pain for your children and his. Just stop it right now, you are being unbelievably selfish. Harsh, but true. I'm sorry that you feel so mixed up but you need to take a massive reality check or you will destroy everything and everyone.

I've seen these school gate affairs before and not once have I seen any form of happy ending. The gossip will never end either - you will be the subject of conversation for many years to come far and wide if anyone finds out and rightly or wrongly you will take most of the blame.

ISdads · 09/01/2019 07:40

Not a fan of goop, but you might enjoy writings by Ester Perel, also ted talks by her, on monogamy and desire in marriage.

goop.com/wellness/sexual-health/esther-perel-on-sex-monogamy-and-who-really-gets-bored-first/

(Ignore the title, it is more interesting than.that one question)

ciderhouserules · 09/01/2019 07:43

'Passionate kissing'? That would be a deal breaker for me if my dp did it.

Think about your children, your DH, your friends, if they found out. Picture their faces. Sad

This is no 'great love affair'.

KirstyAllsoppsFatterTwin · 09/01/2019 07:43

The thing I don’t get about this is that you say his wife is a friend. In all the years I’ve been married and we’ve had couples as friends, or I’ve known the partners of my female friends, I can barely ever recall having had the guys’ numbers in my phone. My DH might, but I wouldn’t, as a rule. And he’d say the same about most of the women, apart from one or two of our closet friends with whom we chat very regularly.

My communication with most men would only ever be via DH or more usually via their wives who were my female friends. Usually I’d see them in person but have little need to speak to circumvent their wives and contact them directly.

So even the fact that you messaged him after the drunken kiss is in itself odd, to me. Unless it was an fb message - and that was very foolish. There is a high chance his wife or your DH would find an fb message.

Also, in all the years I’ve been socialising with my friends husbands, I’ve never been in a position where there has even been the opportunity for an accidental drunken snog to happen, because I’ve never found myself accidentally alone with a friend’s husband while I’ve been drunk. Or sober for that matter.

Unless you are prone to both going out in the same town without your respective partners, how does that even happen? Confused

I don’t think any of this was as accidental as you want it to sound. I think a fair bit of engineering goes into these things that ‘just happen.’

BlaaBlaaBlaa · 09/01/2019 07:57

He 100% has done this before.
You've well and truly been played

Zariiya · 09/01/2019 08:02

What are you actually thinking?
Is a bit of passion worth potentially losing your family over?
Jesus OP, get over yourself.

Boysandbuses · 09/01/2019 08:06

Let me get this right. You are upset that you are trying to fuck over your husband, fuck over another woman whose kids are friends with your kids and this wanker isn't engaging anymore.

If this is true, I suggest you have psychological problems. The fact that you would even risk doing this to your kids, er mind the adults involved, suggest you genuinely don't give a fuck about anyone but yourself. You are deluded if you have fallen for the 'I have never done this before' crap. You need some proper professional health.

If this isn't true (and can see why people would think that), you still need professional health. Spending your time trying to wind up women also suggests you have some very deep problems. You need to sort that out and get your own life. When you are happy in yourself, you don't spend your time trying to negatively impact other people.

Chocolate123 · 09/01/2019 08:12

Sure why why not just go for it. The fun will be so worth wrecking everything. Then you'll both get exactly what you deserve. Wake up and smell the coffee and cop on.

butterfly56 · 09/01/2019 08:45

Yep you have definitely been played!
You fell for all his charm etc etc
He's ghosting you(and done you massive favour) because he realises that you are going to be hard work!....
i.e. not an easy lay!....too much effort required by him to get you into bed.
The very sad thing is that you actually believe this guy's BS and are willing to risk you marriage, and future for the manipulative POS!
You need to get a grip OP and completely stay away from this awful excuse of a man.
His wife probably knows all about what he's up to and your life could become a car crash in an instant when it all comes out.

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 09/01/2019 09:11

Not much of a friend, are you? Think what fun it will be for your children when it's all over the playground. And it will be.

GhostSauce · 09/01/2019 09:16

Wait for him?!!!

BLOCK HIM. You daft cow. What on earth are you thinking?

Block him and delete his number before you destroy both of your families.

Itwasatuesday · 09/01/2019 09:23

Taking everything at face value here op, that he hasn't done it before etc YOU are now chasing him You are after an affair. If he's gone cold block him, step away, you are going to lose everything.

Pinkmonkeybird · 09/01/2019 09:30

What a delightful pair of cheats you both are. If you are that desperate, end it with your 'Fantastic husband' and get on with it. You will devastate the lives of people, but at least you will get what you both want.

louise5754 · 09/01/2019 09:49

I think it's too late for not wanting any trouble.

Paterson8080 · 09/01/2019 09:57

These comments all seem very unsympathetic and judgmental. You are frustrated. So is he. This is a high risk game and you have a lot to lose. But the way you feel is natural and you shouldn't ignore it.