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Do I have false hope? Or a real chance here?

21 replies

Trinitykiller89 · 03/01/2019 20:34

It’s a long post, I am sorry.
Im Amy (now 30) and my partner is Adrian (now 26)
We met on Tinder June 2016.
We are very compatible with our interests and our personalities mirrored each other well. I should note he is Polish but has excellent English.
I won’t go into minute detail of our relationship but other than to say we love each other deeply, always show a great deal of affection, make each other laugh and smile all the time and we are incredibly compatible in every way. We have lots of funny things we do with each other, we think the same – I will often say things and he will have been thinking exactly the same. Or he will finish my sentences. I love to cook for him, I look after him as much as I can and I just want to make him happy.
My health has never been brilliant since I was a teenager – I was diagnosed with Rheumatoid Arthritis
Jan 2017 I discovered he had signed up to a swingers site – I confronted him about this and he assured me he didn’t do anything and I agreed to give him a second chance. When I saw his profile on this site it did turn out he hadn’t messaged anyone so I was willing to try and forget it.
That was hard and my trust was damaged, for awhile I was anxious and paranoid and often had to talk to him about it to gain reassurance.
That feeling has long dwindled and doesn’t affect us anymore but I needed to bring this up for my main point of this post.
I want to note now that I came to him with debt from previous years which I did make him aware of at the beginning. I felt great shame because of this debt and I was struggling to confront it or deal with it but he accepted it and we didn’t talk much more about it.
By April 2017 his parents had helped him purchase a house with the intention of me living with him which was what we both wanted as we hated to be separated.
This meant I had to try and sort out my debts but for reasons I cannot explain because there is no excuse I didn’t – I buried my head in the sand. Every time I thought of them I would get panic attacks and shut down – the shameful feeling, feelings of being worthless were overwhelming.
I tried to do it but once again I avoided them.
We get to 2018 and I got very very ill, to the point I was let go from my job and to this day I am on benefits and cannot work though I am improving slowly. He has supported me through all my illness and has been wonderful and because he loves me this is not what our problem is.
Once I went on benefits and stayed home things got a little better with medication at first however I got some nasty side effects that made me worse in many ways very quickly so I had to change meds and basically keep trial and erroring stuff. I was diagnosed with Fibromyalgia – a crazy mix of problems.
My mental health during the first half of 2018 was bad, I was depressed and anxious all the time and I hated being out of work but I couldn’t push myself. I had to focus on my health for a change.
There came a time around May 2018 I think, Adrian asked me about my debts and I had a bit of a breakdown and admitted they were not sorted and now being on benefits I didn’t know what to do. It did lead to an argument understandably – please don’t think I don’t know I did wrong because I know that well.
We looked into what I could do and I could set up a debt relief order. But first I needed to wait for full approval of my benefits as I was still during the assessment stage.
Once I had that sorted I applied for the debt relief order and waited for the paperwork. It came and I found I had to pay a £90 fee for it – I didn’t have the money at the time and I don’t know why I didn’t say anything to Adrian I just thought I could save for it.
I do want you to bear in mind that I had a memory problem this past year due to my condition too, I would forget things easily and be quite foggy headed. I stopped taking medications partly because they were not helping and making me worse but also because I was getting charges off the NHS for not paying for my meds. I was told with my benefits I was entitled to them free but this turned out not to be the case and when I was being prescribed 4 medications a week that is very costly. The NHS charges have now been included in my DRO.
So I genuinely did forget about it for awhile, we were always so happy that I focused more on him and trying to get better than my debts which was a huge mistake.
Now we come to the later part of 2018, a few months ago it got brought up again as I had actually started setting it up – I had everything in place I was just waiting for the company to send me to form and ID number so I could pay the fee and have the debt relief order in place finally.
However this took a long time to come, the longer it took the longer the whole process was drawn out – a debt relief order means that if my situation doesn’t improve within 12 months my debts would be written off but only once the fee is paid.
I finally got the fee paid and on 12th December 2018 I had my DRO approved.
Just before it was approved and all we did have a conversation, not an argument but he voiced his concerns about how I have gone about this and had I acted on the dro in May then we would be close to having rid of my debts. I knew this but I could see how it was affecting him.
It wasn’t also just the debts, he mentioned how he had given up asking me to go to doctors and sorting medication out because I just didn’t do it – again I have no excuse for this either.
My benefit money would contribute towards our food bill since he took care of everything else but I would have nothing left over, nothing I could save. Looking back I realise now I could have brought the food bill down and save money for us both however I can only change going forward.
Now my current situation is this, we had a lovely Christmas but on 29th Dec he said we needed to talk and bingo – he wanted to break up.
This was a huge shock, in every conversation we have had I have asked if he resented me because of this and he has always assured me that he didn’t. He has no problem me being home unable to work, I know this and he has more than explained this is not the reason.
His reason is he just doesn’t think he can cope anymore with how I have gone about things and I totally understand that. I have ran from my problems and avoided them completely while promising I would deal with them.
He still loves me very much, that hasn’t changed and he feels no hate towards me. He admitted the last couple of months he has begun to resent me for this and doesn’t know what to do. He doesn’t believe I can change this and thinks it will happen again.
I did break down as you can imagine, I have had a few serious long term relationships before him and he is the first person I could be myself with and envision a future with – we were planning a baby for 2019 and wanted to get married one day. That was my dream.
I pleaded for a second chance or to maybe take some time apart, he was torn and agreed to let me know in the morning what he decided. He did let me stay that day, and also the night we spent together which in my head I knew in a way could have potentially been a goodbye for us both. It was wonderful in some ways, we were close and both hurting so were there to comfort each other.
The next morning he still wasn’t sure so I suggested we could take it one day at a time which he agreed to do.
We went about trying to make the morning normal though I knew we were both going to need time to get over the experience of this.
Note here that before he told me he wanted to break up, after our last big talk about debts and doctors and the like, I had a lot of things I planned to change but I wasn’t able to do much until Christmas was out of the way due to time and money. I had only told him briefly I wanted to do a lot in the new year but I never laid out my plan and maybe I should have looking back.
After that night together I explained all of the things I wanted to do and how hard I was willing to fight for us, I wanted to change and make sure I didn’t repeat this mistake and learn from it. I explained that I didn’t expect him to believe me and the only way for him to regain that trust in me was for me to prove it with actions. He was still not sure.
I advised him to speak to his mum, my family knew of the breakup conversation the day earlier after it happened and I thought he might feel better if he spoke to his mum too.
So he went over, was there for 3 hours and came back and told me no he couldn’t do it or atleast not right now. I accepted that although I cannot describe the pain through all of this (even now this is almost impossible to type as I feel like I can’t breathe thinking of it but I really need help) so I suggested maybe we take a break – not breakup, not throw it away just yet but take some time apart and he thought this was best.
He said how a massive part of him didn’t want me to go, didn’t want to leave me but at the same time he couldn’t cope with this anymore and I understood that. He said how there was no way he could cut me out of his life and wouldn’t want to. He also said how couples break up and get back together all of the time which I knew but it doesn’t make this any easier.
So we sat and talked about how we would go about this, I said I wouldn’t change my addresses until we met up again in a month and see where we stand, I would leave the majority of my things in the house and move back with my mum so I packed the basics for a few weeks and set them aside.
We also have two cats together which ofcourse have to stay with him, my mum couldn’t pick me up for another 3 hours so I had plenty of time with him and the cats who I loved dearly. Because of my benefits our cats went to PDSA vets – meaning he wouldn’t be able to use them if I wasn’t with him and if anything happens he would need to go to another vet and probably spend a fortune but there was no alternative right now.
I originally said I would give him updates on the things I am doing as while we were apart he had no way of knowing if I would follow through with all I said I would do which he was happy with.

OP posts:
Trinitykiller89 · 03/01/2019 20:35

Such as:

  1. Register with the doctors around my mums, make an appointment and get some medication to help me and keep regular visits.
  2. Speak to someone about my debt relief order and being on benefits if I could still work a part time job and keep my dro in place.
  3. Arrange some counselling to help my head space and have someone I can talk these issues through such as my debt avoidance and try to find the source of that behaviour.
  4. If we got back together and I moved back in I would want to sit down and discuss that financial side of things, for example if I was allowed to do a part time job whilst my benefits and dro is in place then I could give him a good chunk of money each month, this would lessen the strain on him financially and enable us to do more with the house.
  5. I would want to make more of an effort with his friends – it’s hard for me as they are Polish and unlike Adrian they do not have a good grasp of English so I am often sat next to Adrian but unable to join in any conversation the whole night. However I would like to really try make more of an effort, we had a poker night beginning of December and that was a great deal of fun for us all so I would like to arrange things like that or he go see them more alone – however he says he prefers it when I am with him or he misses me.
  6. I would want to make it up to his parents; given the help they have given with paying his house deposit we would never have got the house without them. They are so very careful with money that they are incredibly upset with me now he has told them about this and I get that completely. It would take time but I would need to build bridges there. I love his family and he mine, we have both been so accepted so its another blow to us both being apart. I have helped his parents a lot with regards to them having a language barrier I would like to mention which they are always so grateful to me for.
  7. If I moved back I would use more time to try make the house perfect everyday, I struggle with a lot of pain most days but as I don’t have much else to do at home I should have been on top of this everyday. Motivation was lacking partially due to my mental health but given my current situation I have the biggest motivator and kick up the bum.
  8. Arrange us to go out more, we both like to game and binge was tv shows or films and we do forget to get out of the house even though we both like to go for walks and such. So that would be a great thing for health and bonding. There’s going to be more but I hope you get the idea. I ended up writing him a long email – I’d write him letters randomly which he loved and before I left to come to my mums I asked if I could send him something. Unfortunately my emotions got the better of my on New Years Eve and I wrote him this email and explained the things I wanted to work on like above. It wasn’t too bad however I now wish I had never sent it and not contacted him, I did update him of all I had already done though. Because of this I have stopped contact now and will continue to refrain unless he messages me. Yesterday my mum looked into things and found given my situation health wise and not working I would be possibly entitled to council housing help and if I were to live alone and support myself me and Adrian could choose to date and then by December 2019 by debts would be gone and that time may be enough to prove to him I can change. It’s a brilliant idea and although my mum agreed with me not contacting him she did feel that was something I should let him know as its another option for him to consider while we are apart. I have not arranged the housing yet as until we know where we stand I can’t apply for a place. If I end up declining somewhere while I am still waiting to see him then I could get put so far down the waiting list it could take up to 18 months before I get accepted somewhere. So on my mums suggestion I messaged him this: Hi Adrian. Sorry to bother you. I just wanted to make you aware of another option we have. I am in a position where I can apply for council housing and get extra support due to my benefits. This means I could live on my own, support myself and we could still date and see each other. I cant arrange this yet until we know where we stand as once I apply if I turn down a place while we’re still unsure then it’s 18 months before I can reapply at least – once I apply I might have my own place within a month. My thinking is, we can date without the pressure cooker of my financial position under the same roof. It gives us both space but keeps us both together. It just means we would have to travel a bit to see each other but I get a chance to sort myself out xxx He replied with “That is always an option Amy. I was thinking you might be eligible for that. X” This for him is an unusual message, he doesn’t normally call me by name and always gives 3 xxx. I know I am looking into that a little much – given my mental state right now its hard not to. Before we parted which was incredibly hard for us both he promised there is a chance for us – that he couldn’t promise anything but there is a real chance and that’s why we’re having this break. I am just so scared that he was just saying that but I’ve always told him to just be honest with me. He is not the kind of guy that would be that cruel to give me false hope and I said as much. So I have to believe that there is a chance so I am trying to focus on myself which right now is harder than it sounds. I have been apart from him now for 4 full days and it is killing me. I am experiencing all the normal heartbreak feelings – everything reminds me of him, programmes we watched together (I introduced him to a lot and Friends was the last big thing we binged together so I cant even consider watching it) all of my clothes, music, even being at mums reminds me of him as my parents love him dearly and he them. My mum is incredibly disappointed in me too, she is trying to be supportive but keeps pointing out that what I did was wrong and I know that, she says I put too much on him and that although there is a chance to not put all my hope in it right now. I feel lost and very lonely, I don’t have anyone I can really talk to whenever I need and right now it’s very hard not to cry all the time. I can contain myself for most of the day but random times I will feel that heart wrenching ache, can’t breathe and I start this keening noise as I cry. It’s so overwhelming I can’t see past this right now. I know I will and I am hoping I feel a little better next week. Since the break up on Saturday, I didn’t eat for the first 3 days and today have only managed a very small bowl of soup, I have been being sick but its just stomach acid mostly and the other end isn’t fairing much better. As soon as I think of him I feel it all too much and I feel sick and like I’m going to poop myself (sorry). I can tell my mum is getting worried and I have looked online so much to check this is normal and that seems to be the general consensus. I want to show the things I have already done and things I have put in place: I went to the Doctors on Monday, the day I sent Adrian the email. Doctor has given me a strong anti-depressant Sertraline (I was supposed to be on antidepressants anyway but the last bunch I’ve tried made me very ill) she is confident this is going to help me a lot but will only give me a weeks’ worth at a time so I have to see her weekly, I am actually happy about this. My doctor has referred me for counselling as requested, though this could take up to 6 weeks to arrange but it’s in place now and I am looking forward to that as right now I do not have much of a release. I spoke to my debt people about potentially taking a part time job (it’s a risk as none of us know if I can yet hold down a job due to my health so it’s not a permanent decision) and they have confirmed that providing I am not left with additional funds each month then my dro won’t be affected. This is great because if I took a small job, even 5 hours a week it would go straight to Adrian. My benefits entitle me to work up to 16 hours a week so that should be fine. I have started to help my mum in the house, although this doesn’t impact Adrian it’s something I can do for myself, for my mum and keeps me busy. It’s a distraction and a way I can show him eventually that I am not just sat about moping – I am moping but I’m busy while I am. Although I am not living with him right now I am trying to get out of the house, walking my mums dogs. It’s difficult at this time as I am so weak from not eating and being sick however I have to try this one step at a time. This weekend I am going to London with my mum – it’s a history visit, we both love English history and she arranged this as part of my Christmas present. Admittedly I am no longer excited to go, I hope I will enjoy it and I will try my best but it gets me out of the house and another distraction. I am trying to act normal, it’s hard. I have been avoiding facebook too. We agreed not to delete each other but I can see when he is online and I hate that but I do not want to delete him unless he tells me it is over. I saw in my feed that he had gone to his friends for new years and posted a picture not of himself but the drinks in front of him, It was already planned him going but my god did it set me back just seeing that. So I have snoozed him for 30 days so he doesn’t appear in my news feed. My mum says I need to be normal on facebook too, I would normally share the odd funny or cute post, or write a post and put up pictures. So this weekend in London I know I will have loads of pictures and I will post them but I don’t want to upset him either. I am going to try my utmost to regain myself again, I know this will get easier or atleast I keep getting told that or read it online. But I cannot see past Adrian, I cannot bear the thought of being with anyone else. We have such a wonderful relationship besides what I have done and are generally happy all the time. I love making him smile and its always been easy for me to do that. I am so in love with him and will do anything I have to but I know I have to make these changes for myself first. I cant risk this happening again so in the words of my mother I need to grow up. I fully intend to and intend to change a great deal, it will be hard and it will be slow but I sincerely hope that Adrian wants to give me that chance and see the proof of my changes as they happen. I have already done what he told me he wanted me to do regarding checking about the potential for a job and to sort my doctor stuff out so I need to keep on top of that. The whole reason for this post is I need advice and opinions on if anyone thinks I really do have a shot of winning him back. He feels as strongly as I do and you can tell he loves me dearly when he looks at me, but is this too late now? I hope not. We both want the same things and had many plans – I truly think what we have is worth fighting for and I am willing to put the work in. I will never forget this experience, regardless if he takes me back or not this has burned itself into my memory exactly the same way my debt weighs on my mind I know I never want or will take out credit – if I can’t afford something simple, I don’t get it. I hear of so many success stories and they all say the first step is no contact so I am hoping that the time apart and lack of communication (I last messaged him yesterday about the housing thing and I don’t intend to message him again now) will help him heal some of those negative feelings and miss me but I can’t count on that. I know this is a long post and ofcourse there is plenty more I could go into detail on but I hope this is enough to give some insight my situation. I am wholly broken hearted but quietly determined to change – I know I can do this and I have to for my own sake as well as his. We are so well matched and compatible that I really feel like we can overcome this. Please, any help would be greatly appreciated. Also it would be nice to not feel so alone in this. Is this false hope? Are there any other suggestions? Many thanks Amy
OP posts:
GalacticChickenShit · 03/01/2019 20:42

Amy. Ain't no-one got time to read that.

P.s. why on earth would you be planning a baby?

Chrissmasjammies · 03/01/2019 20:51

Hi Amy. It sounds like you need to take a good break from him and get yourself sorted as best you can, mentally physically and financially. Keep very low or no contact and then see about meeting up as friends.

Gardai · 03/01/2019 20:52

So you lived with a guy
You got in debt
He finished with you
You are now at your mums
You’re 30
Does anyone know if he’ll want you back ?
I’m afraid I don’t know, nor does anyone except Adrian

user1471553214 · 03/01/2019 21:00

You won't go into minute detail? Man, that's pretty detailed! I hope you feel better for getting that all written down but I don't think many people are going to read it and pick out the important bit you actually need support with. Sorry. I'd try reposting a much shorter version if I were you. Good luck.

SparklyMagpie · 03/01/2019 21:08

I think this is the longest thread I've come across so I'm sorry but I gave up quite early on but from what I gathered, I think a break to yourself is very wise

Bluntness100 · 03/01/2019 21:08

I read it

My advice is to focus on you. Sort your medication.,sort your living conditions, sort your debt, get your job. Take control.

Right now this is too much for him, too needy, to clingy, too desperate, too much.

Get your self happy and in a good position and then take it from there. Stop focusing on him.

deadliftgirl · 03/01/2019 21:25

Hi Amy,

It sounds to me like you have made the best decision by moving back to your mums house. You have a lot of issues, health concerns and debts and you need to sort yourself out. You don't need a man, you just need to focus and focus on you.

My mum has fybo also and she struggles more when she is doing nothing. Theres these classes you should google in your area called laughter classes that are supposed to help with your condition. I think you need to get back to work, get a job, even part-time, pay of your debts slowly and work on your self esteem.

Having children and getting married are all things you can have eventually but you need to sort yourself out first. Have you considered going to church, praying? It really sounds to me like you need God in your life. For anyone reading this who doesn't believe please skip over this. I am a christian and I honestly whole heartedly believe that my life became more stable and happier when I aspected Christ into my life.

Each to their own, if you read that and thing oh no, then thats also fine. Its just another suggestion. I only say that because in 2012 I was in a similar position to you (without the debt and health problems but I was really mentally unwell) and I went to church randomly because someone invited me and then my life changed slowly over time. Today, I am a catholic and I praise God for everything he has done for me.

I really pray that you find the happiness you deserve. As for your partner, he is probably doing the right thing and you are not going to get better staying with him.

HeckyPeck · 03/01/2019 21:35

I agree with bluntness’s advice.

You can’t do anything about him, so focusing on yourself is the best thing to do.

Notwiththeseknees · 03/01/2019 21:36

Hi Amy. I read it all too. You seem to have a lot going on! I would go to London & enjoy your weekend - but I wouldn't put anything on the dreaded FB. When I got back, I would apply for housing, get a pt job and concentrate on getting better. If Adrian loves & misses you, let him come to you.
Good luck and you are fortunate to have such a supportive mum.

Daria32 · 03/01/2019 21:50

I read it Amy. You definitely need to focus on getting yourself to a better place mentally. Agree with pp, if he loves you, he’ll wait. Take some time out, enjoy time with your mum and make some time for yourself. Don’t beat yourself up, we all make mistakes. Spend time outdoors, work on your friendships, stay on the ad’s and be grateful for your lovely mum. Don’t post on Facebook, but enjoy London.
If it’s meant to be it will be. And do send him the odd message to let him know how you’re doing and that you’re making progress, but that’s all. Take care of yourself

maximumcarnage · 03/01/2019 23:14

Wow. That’s easily the longest thread I have ever read. I mean, War and Peace has nothing on you. But yeah, I read it all. And you deserve some serious kudos for the post alone. Yikes.

So where to begin. Blunt has given you some excellent advice. Actually to be fair Blunt always gives some superb advice. It’s clearly you have a lot of things that need addressing. Debt is an annoyance that many of us deal with. But least you’re taking steps there.

As it happens I know a lot about fibromyalgia. An ex had it and it had a heavy impact on her life. There was a procedure however that she had done which worked wonders for her condition. Can’t recall the spelling but it’s spelt lidocaine infusion. You can have it three times a year and it takes about an hour and a half. Ask if it’s available through your pain management or/and local GP. It’s done at the hospital under doctor supervision. It has 60-70% success rate and lasts two to three months.

Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 00:12

Wow that was long!
You need to sort your head out! Also he sounds like a good guy but you are obsessed with him. Everything you do is about and for him. It’s a bit much! However the one thing that he wanted and you needed to do was sort the debts out! You could of been added to the house and contributed to it and had a life together if you were more sorted.

I get mental health and health problems can impair many things but you had so many chances to sort out the debt ages ago. It doesn’t bode well in these early stages that you haven’t helped yourself in this respect and basically him as the fines and debt issues could impact his credit score and house etc. If you are to be a couple then he should be involved in the financial things here. You should of asked him to help with the £90 I bet he would have preferred to get that fee and the debt pay off rolling than this scenario.
I feel for you and I feel for him as he’s been really supportive and even his family have tried to offer support and I know you’re unwell but after reading your posts you kind of blame that so much for you not pursuing sorting your life out.

You wanted a child this year but you can’t sort yourself out. I don’t want to make you feel shit and mh and Ill health doesn’t make you an unfit mother or deny you of a family. But seriously with what your saying you are going to find it tough raising children.
Not saying that will be always just that atm you need to sort your head out and clear that debt.

Looking through his eyes although he loves you. He would be taking a huge risk with you so he’s really torn. Like you said his parents have given him a house deposit and they are not loaded. He seems sensible but then you his OH has debt which he and his parents have spent time in advising/supporting you to sort it out and yet you still haven’t and it’s been quite some time.
You love cooking for him and doing the house jobs etc but if you can do this when why haven’t you done the main thing that would have but both of you at ease and stabilised your futures. This is insane!
What I’m getting at is that you say your Ill health stops you doing/sorting it out yet you are able to cook clean etc and whatever else. I would usually see the ill health interfering with the latter more. It’s like and how it comes across to me is that you’re using to Ill health to make excuses for not sorting out the debt which stupidly is making your health worse and ended a good relationship.
He obviously loves you but he knows he’s taking a huge risk by being with you and then you want babies but that would tie him down. What happens if you can’t look after them. He will have to care for you and the baby. What if he has to leave or you leave or his credit/finances are effected??? What you if had a child be eligible to take half the house etc.

Bluntly you a huge financial burden for him. It’s honestly a huge risk. He’s helped you to go through everything and waited and you still haven’t gone through with sorting it out! That would seriously frustrate and piss me the fuck off. He can’t do it for you!
To me it would show how little a fuck you gave to our future. I may get bashed for that but that’s my opinion and that’s all. Someone may think it’s wrong. You're not married and have no children so he can ask himself ‘does he need this shit?’

Sort the debt out give him space and do it for YOU, not under the pretender that you may win him back as he may have moved on. Maybe at some point when you are financially stable maybe start to date again on a fair level. This way if you get back together great! You can bothe be adults and have a future or if still separated then move on and you have got your life sorted and financially stable.
Wish you the best.
I do mean that as I do feel for you. You just need to adult and get your head out of the sand.
Xxxxx

Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 00:13

Wow shit
Sorry I wrote a long response too!
Sorry if I was repetitive or bored the crap out of anyone
Xxxx

NameChangeNugget · 04/01/2019 08:11

You need to sort yourself out first. You’ve not done what you said you would & he sadly probably sees you as a drain.
Give him space

Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 10:50

Exactly @NameChangeNugget
Summed up better than I did. Xxxx

LuckyLou7 · 04/01/2019 12:20

Why are people posting about fibromyalgia when the OP has Rheumatoid Arthritis?

Also, Amy, forget Adrian for now and work on getting yourself out of debt, back in work and generally sort out your life. The fact he signed up to a swinger's site is a massive red flag about his commitment to you and the plans for living together and having a baby sound like he's a future faker too.

Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 12:50

She said she also has now been diagnosed with fibromyalgia now too. Xxx

LuckyLou7 · 04/01/2019 12:54

Thanks @Chaoticpenguin, I missed that bit

Fibro and RA, poor woman.

Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 13:38

Yes. It’s a double whammy and not great to deal with at all. She needs to process it all and learn to manage it.
I have health issues and have to cope and bring up children and it’s hard work.
I’m just perplexed at the effort she put into Adrian and looking after him she didn’t do it for herself and the main thing that was a huge worry that didn’t require much physical effort and what he wanted most was her to just sort out the debts which they have helped go through so much and would have been potentially gone by now.
I must sound harsh but to me she’s picked and chosen what she wants to do then blames the health issues for not sorting out the debt. It’s the lack of maturity in that that would seem crazy to then ask a mn members to see if she still has a chance with him. The mention of trying for a baby this year is insane as the debt is a big deal and why would you plan a child in this mess. If it was sorted then fair enough but she’s had so much help and chances and she hasn’t done anything and say on it making it worse. I know that can happen and become overwhelming but he was helping her.
If I was him I would run!
You seem so needy and need to be guided far too much even when he’s helped you’re not helping yourself. Then the child things. You’re not showing him or yourself that you are mature enough to handle adulthood.
Sorry if it sounds harsh but you are 30. I know the health issues are an issue and he sees past it and it doesn’t mean you can’t have a relationship or children. It’s the lack of sorting out the debt even with more help than CAB which would worry me.

The swingers site would worry me too much tbh. It’s a thing to note but tbh he’s not acted on it and it depends what his intention was. He may have thought it was a porn site or wanted a nose. Not sure I don’t know him.
I looked at a swingers site with hubby and looked around for kicks early into our relationship and nothing came of it. More a fantasy thing and didn’t want to complicate our relationship especially with children.
We also both watch porn together and individually as I don’t have issues in that. But that’s our relationship and we talk openly about this. My last relationship my ex was secretive and I hated it and hated him watching it. But I’m this relationship we are able to talk. Went off track there but what I’m saying is that it’s not necessarily a red flag. Depends on your relationship.
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Chaoticpenguin · 04/01/2019 13:40

Again I’m doing longwinded post that probably replicates what I’ve said over and over lol
I’m dyslexic and I seem to waffle on far too much so I’m sorry about that.

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