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My husband is driving me insane

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Speranze · 03/01/2019 19:12

Imet my husband in 2012 and although things were hard to begin with, our relationship has been 60/40% good.

In the beginning he would accuse me of talking to men or anyone I was in contact with had alterior motives. I just took this as insecurity. Me being older by 6 years, I also saw it as slight immaturity. I ploughed on and hoped that we could iron these problems out. There was a time also when he would go through my phone and check what was on it and I had genuinely done nothing to provoke this!

We worked through this but I also stopped associating with people outside of our relationship for fear of his accusations and an ensuing row.

I began focusing on building a better relationship with my parents and so did he - especially during our wedding period, etc. His family are non commital and his mother neglected my husband growing up. He has had a very bad upbringing and this also included a death in the family, for which my husband feels responsibility. I am sure this is his main cause for his behaviour and I have given him extra leeway because of his upbringing.

He also has had issues with his children. Many a time I have negotiated for/with his children on his behalf. For example, he had issues with the children saying they didn't like him and his ex wife would say nasty things about their dad. I felt that at times I had to put them right. In 2014 my husband spent many stays in hospital with an undiagnosed condition, for which, after several episodes of sepsis, he finally got a diagnosis and is reliant on taking medication in order to keep him well. During this time, his ex wife told the children that he was out seeing women and drinking, hence why he didn't see them for a while. But I had to rectify this by telling them of his illness(es). I even picked up his son, then aged 12, and took him to the hospital to see his dad. I spent days, months, and years trying to negotiate for him and get the children to realise that their father loves them. However, the problem is that my husband undoes all of what I do. For example, one day his eldest decided to pick up the hoover and vacuum the living room, totally unrequested. I thanked him and encouraged him to continue. My husband proceeded to come down stairs and say "you missed a bit!" He wasn't being humerous/funny at all; instead he was seemingly antagonizing the situation. He is very critical and very moody - the atmosphere is just awful at times.

With regard to his illnesses, which include: a congenital heart condition, type 2 diabetes and the condition for which he needs medication to keep him well and high cholesterol - my husband has very often not taken his meds and doesnt keep on track with them and it's only when he starts going down hill that I monitor whether the meds have been taken during the week, then I have to say 'why aren't you taking your meds' - of course, he argues the toss but eventually admits not taking them.

Late last year, the children have since moved away and he has nothing to do with them now. So this Christmas has been particularly difficult for him. He does have a younger child whom visits on alternate weekends, and she is from a subsequent relationship prior to ours. We didn't see her for some time as her mum and my husband had a fall out. In the last month or so my husband has started moaning about his daughter, who is 7 years old. He wanted her to do a Christingle decoration at Christmas, however, she doesn't show much interest in things, just loves a giggle and dancing. My husband seemed so upset and rejected by her as she showed little interest. He has started saying nasty things like 'what a waste of time' and 'I don't know why I bother'. We went out food shopping between Christmas and New Year and he held her hand all the way around the shop and whenever he caught her laughing at anything, he would tell her off. (Not badly). My adult children were there too and we were all just having a bit of fun.

Also when my adult children are around, he makes the atmosphere worse still. When my girls lived at home and they used the oven or anything, he would nit pick and moan about their washing up and what they were eating. Bearing in mind that his washing up is worse than ever! (he washes one side of the plate, so if they are stacked after eating, there is still food on the bottom!) All the time he was washing up I had regular upset stomachs and now that I have told him never to wash up again, I have been symptom free!

During our Christmas eve family dinner, which was really important to me, I took out the frozen dessert which needed defrosting, held it up high and stated it needed defrosting and left it on the side. We had our dinner which was lovely and then I went to get the pudding (which for my family is the most important) - my husband said 'I put it in the freezer!' So our dinner finished without pudding. He showed no real apology and continued swigging his beer.

I just dont know what to make of this. When we are on our own, he is quite controlling. Even when I go out with friends, when I come home he is often found on the sofa asleep, which can be as early as 8:30pm, and there is no asking how I am but just a cold shoulder.

What do you make of this?

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pog100 · 03/01/2019 19:20

What I make of it is why are you with him at all? He sounds horrible to live with, you don't seem to share children, why bother?

mumonashoestring · 03/01/2019 19:23

He's a shit. That's what I make of it.

ISdads · 03/01/2019 19:26

I guess you are a rescuer and need someone horrible and useless in your life for some psychological reason or other. Might be better to get counselling for yourself to work out why you don't just leave.

Thingsdogetbetter · 03/01/2019 19:26

Wow. That's a ton of excuses you're making for his horrible controlling behaviour. Red flags were flying on mass and you saw them clearly, but chose to ignore, excuse and dismiss them. Time to start actually seeing them for what they are.

He's a twat!! Simply put: a grade A twat.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2019 19:29

Why are you with him at all now, what are you getting out of this relationship?. Controlling behaviour is abusive behaviour. You giving him any leeway at all here because of his upbringing has been an error of judgment on your part. Do you not wonder why these adult children have nothing to do with him now?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 03/01/2019 19:31

I also think you are a rescuer or saviour to him and have acted as such throughout. What did you yourself learn about relationships when you were growing up?.

MistressDeeCee · 03/01/2019 19:36

His kids don't like him, his ex doesn't like him, he gets on your nerves.

Honestly, why are you in saviour mode?

He's disliked because he is unpleasant. He must be boring as fuck to live with too.

In the 1st instance, counselling for yourself (don't include him) to explore why you are still with this man, would be a good start.

Your whole post is minimising his nastiness. Others see him for what he is and it's time you did too.

Speranze · 03/01/2019 19:37

Thank you for your replies. Its encouraging to know that I have your support. I also have another post on here about my upbringing where I have suffered emotional, psychological abuse. I can only assume that my upbringing is facilitating in me keeping this all going. I think I am doing good by loving him but I know I am only hirting myself. He has been extremely nice to me tonight despite earlier this morning when I lost my patience with him and told him to get out of my car. He got out, called me a sh#tc##t, then kicked my car and walked off. I just keep questioning my reality and whether I am just being a bitch. Your help is really valued.

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InternalGangsta · 03/01/2019 19:41

Your post is terribly sad. Please seek counselling for yourself and the strength to leave this relationship. You deserve so much better Thanks

MistressDeeCee · 03/01/2019 19:51

Questioning your reality..?Over him?!

He even has to suck the joy and happiness out of his 7 year old daughter. He clearly doesn't like your children and your family either. & he doesn't hide it. I'll mannered boor. They probably haven't told him to piss off, out of respect for you. I don't think you should have him by your family actually, hes not fit to be in their company.

As for the name-calling...

He's a nasty fucker who's been rightly abandoned by most decent people. Imagine him by your side in old age - you'll be a nervous wreck, weeping at the years you've wasted on and with him. Old, & bearing the full brunt of his nastiness, as he will worsen with age.

Do the Freedom Programme. You can look up info online. As soon as possible.

Sad thing is, men like this know how to turn on the charm to get a woman. They hide their true face until they feel it's the right time to display they just want an outlet for venting their vile angst and nastiness.

Honestly - just bin him. He's like a boil on the arse that will never get better

LannieDuck · 03/01/2019 20:22

What do you like about him?

Speranze · 03/01/2019 20:51

LannieDuck - he is funny. He has a cute smile. Our cuddles in bed are cute.

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LannieDuck · 04/01/2019 10:40

That might be enough for me to go on a first date with him, but I'd need more if we were going to continue dating. Whereas you seem to be giving up your whole life for a cute smile and some cuddles.

  • You've given up your friends
  • He creates a bad atmosphere when your children are around
  • He's controlling and cold towards you

Is it worth it?

Speranze · 05/01/2019 11:57

Thank you your thoughts.

We started chatting this morning for 2 hours. We discussed his behaviour towards the kids and me. This came back to his PTSD and upbringing. I said he should have kept taking his antidepressants AND continued counselling (he only went once). I started writing things down to help him distinguish between PTSD and upbringing. He was doing tests online for bipolar and PTSD. He wanted to talk about a site he found. I said, hang on, let's just continue this discussion and writing things down. He tried to talk over me and go to a website he had found. I said, let's finish this and then go back to the website - hold on to what you've got and we'll go back to it. (He brought up the PTSD and upbringing so made sense to discuss and plan forward). Reluctantly for him we carried on discussing for about 10 minutes. I said ok let's have a look at that website. He said, "Well, I've got rid of it now".

I got up and said why am I bothering. He saw I was irritated and he then quickly found the site again and wanted to continue talking...

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Speranze · 05/01/2019 12:00

LannieDuck
^^You've given up your friends

  • He creates a bad atmosphere when your children are around
  • He's controlling and cold towards you
Is it worth it?^^

Its hard when he is being nice to me but it quickly turns. The scenario this morning just confuses me. Am I demanding or is he immature?

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LannieDuck · 05/01/2019 12:03

The scenario this morning sound irritating on both sides.

I think the only question that really matters is: are you happy?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/01/2019 12:07

Speranze

re your comment:-
"I can only assume that my upbringing is facilitating in me keeping this all going. I think I am doing good by loving him but I know I am only hirting myself".

Yes you are doing this and continue to do so by at all remaining with him for your own reasons. This is as much about you as him really. You are very much still in people pleaser, rescuer and saviour mode but you cannot act as either a rescuer or saviour in a relationship. Neither approach works. This man also latched onto you deliberately and partly also because of your own upbringing; he saw something within you he can and has indeed fully exploited to his own ends. You are his wife, not his therapist and yet this morning you continued to act as such. He does not want your help or support and you are too close to the situation to be of any real use to him, not that he at all wants to be helped in any case. He is indeed a nasty fucker towards you and his cute smile and cuddles do not in any way make up for that fact.

What needs of yours still are being met from this relationship, what are you getting out of this that for you is still worth being with him for. It cannot just be because he is nice (he is not), has a cute smile and does nice cuddles. Those are really the barest of bare minimum requirements here. What did you yourself learn about relationships when you were growing up?. I think your parents actually did you great harm and that damage continues to this very day in your relationship with your abuser now.

Talking to him really is a waste of effort. You need to break free of him not just for your own self but for your own sanity and children too. They cannot afford to learn such damaging lessons on relationships for them to potentially recreate as well.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/01/2019 12:11

Abusive people are not nasty to their chosen target all the time but what you're also describing here is the cycle of abuse; that particular nice and nasty cycle is a continuous one. He cannot get on with anybody and its not them, its him.

I would think your now adult children do not visit very often if at all because the atmosphere at home is so bad. They probably also wonder of you why you are so weak and have remained with him at all.

HollowTalk · 05/01/2019 12:11

Bloody hell, it sounds exhausting and frankly, horrible. Why on earth do you put up with him? Saying he has a cute smile makes you sound crazy - you'll put up with all that shit for a cute smile? Stick a picture on George Clooney on the wall and look at that if you want to see a cute smile. Then you can get rid of this horror and have a nice life without him.

Speranze · 05/01/2019 12:47

Thank you for your replies.

It just think I am making it up in my head. You know?!

I phoned the Domestic Helpline yesterday and they are calling me back next Friday to see how things pan out. They agree that he is emotionally controlling and this is abuse.

Lmao at George Clooney though!!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 05/01/2019 12:54

This is your reality and you are not making this up in your own head. He is truly an abusive individual. Did you actually talk to Womens Aid, I ask only as you do not mention them by name. And what is the point of them calling you back next Friday (and not before then?), how do they and you think things are going to pan out given they think he is emotionally controlling and abusive.

Legendary · 05/01/2019 21:57

I think you desperately need some space to think about the situation and some self progress without the constant emotional manipulation from him.

I personally would be with a friend or a hotel by this point

Sending support your way.

Speranze · 06/01/2019 16:25

I'm so scared I'm going to fall back again. I keep going round and round in circles and thinking, what if it's me?! Hes not all bad and has been my best friend (when no one else is around) and now I'll have no one to speak to. To talk of my worries, etc.

We were walking back from the shops today and I was saying how disappointed I am that he could not make the effort to get better after our last talks of separating, he chatted a bit and then noticed someone's window as we walked past, he said "they're solar panels!" - is this irrational of me to think, well, he clearly doesnt think much of this situation.

He is also still joking about things and humming to himself. He also said that from our relationship, he will try to improve - I said, "what? improve for the next one, and not for me?"

I've got no one I can talk to, well I have, but I dont feel comfortable telling such intimate things...

Would Women's Aid help?

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