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Young adult kids being forced to accept OW's baby!

43 replies

Lemonfizzle · 02/01/2019 16:26

My marriage broke up after my husband had an affair with an Asian lady who he paid for at a bar abroad. He felt that he had fallen in love (she's 18 years younger and had dreams of living in "a place called London" !). Surprise, surprise, she became pregnant a couple of months into their relationship .

Long story short, exH is a mess. Looks miserable, and on several occasions has told our children that he was tricked into the pregnancy (that old chestnut!), cannot bond with the baby (now 18 months old), OW is a nutter and often locks him out of their flat, accuses him of having affairs and throws stuff at him when angry. She's also written to his secretary to accuse her of "fucking my boyfriend" (secretary is about 70 years old!).

The OW has in the past written to me and my children to tell my daughter she is "fucking lazy and should get a job and not rely on her father to give her money" and to my autistic son "you are ugly and have a face like your mother's. You are retarded and have no future".

Non of us have had the "pleasure" of meeting the OW (thank god!) however, exMIL keeps banging on about my kids meeting the baby and accepting him. They both know that it would not only hurt me deeply but they are still no over the trauma of their dad suddenly up and leaving after 24 years.

Ironically, ExMIL would never let my exH have a relationship with HIS half brothers. I really to tell them all to just fuck off. This is mess is not ours!

Thoughts?

OP posts:
Userplusnumbers · 02/01/2019 17:03

Why do you care about him so much?

And why is your daughter bursting into tears at the mention of a baby?

It all sounds very high drama, being fed from all sides. You need to take the line of 'You've made your bed, now lie in it' where your exH is concerned.

As for your kids, it's up to them as adults what they want to do - presumably they want to maintain a relationship with their DH, which means at some point meeting their half sibling. Perhaps if you pay off the guilt trips and the 'it will hurt me deeply' stick, your daughter won't be so overcome with guilt she bursts into tears.

Stop taking your problems and making it the kids, it's hard, but that's life.

Userplusnumbers · 02/01/2019 17:04

*lay off

LuckyLou7 · 02/01/2019 17:05

Your ex-H, his mum, his wife - ignore them all, they are no longer any of your concern. Your DC are adults. Let them decide what they want to do regarding their half-sibling. Don't get drawn into the drama. Move on with your life with your head held high. Your ex-H has been a fool, like many middle-aged men, but that's his problem to sort out.

Ethel36 · 02/01/2019 17:06

I think it's all karma...his karma. Tell your MIL to mind her own business. You focus on your family and leave your ex to wallow in his!

DeepanKrispanEven · 02/01/2019 17:13

Yup, tell ex MIL to fuck off, and encourage your kids to do the same.

deepwatersolo · 02/01/2019 17:15

Userplusmama I agree that letting your children know it would hurt you deeply if they met their half-sibling puts unnecessary pressure on them and is not good. However that clearly pales in comparison to Dad telling them he was tricked by the pregnancy and basically hates the baby (does not bond...). That‘s not just a different league but another game when it comes to messing with your kids‘ head and making them resent the baby to the point they start crying even thinking of it.

speakout · 02/01/2019 17:25

Your ex preyed on a vulnerable Asian woman and made her pregnant

He sounds a slease bag.

Anothermum2467 · 02/01/2019 17:31

Surely it's up to your kids if they want to meet the baby or not? It seems as if even if they wanted to meet the baby they would feel guilty because it would "hurt" you!
I feel sorry for all the kids involved, all of you "adults" need to grow up, including you OP, you seem to blame the OW for everything but the only person here that done something wrong was your exhusband.
Surprise, surprise, she became pregnant a couple of months into their relationship . Don't tell me she forced him, or she tricked him? Pretty sure he is old enough to know what he was doing!
Why is your exhusband not doing anything about the nasty messages you are getting about your kids? What kind of father would be with someone like that? And what are you doing to put a stop to this?

Thingsdogetbetter · 02/01/2019 17:32

Ting Tong???

His new wife clearly has mh issues which is unsurprising considering her background; young women prostitutes in Asia do not have good lives. Multiple men who treat them like shite. Pimps who treat them like shite. Encouraged to take strong drugs so they're awake longer to service more men. Men like the OP's idiot ex.

Like many in her situation she latched on to an older richer saviour. And played her part well enough that it turned into an affair and he was stupid enough to have unprotected sex. I mean what an idiot. Has he never heard of stds? A baby with a rich westerner is an aim for many of these woman, hoping for support for life. And who'd blame her given the alternate. He's not the first idiot man to fall for this and won't be the last.

There is a possibility of pnd and if they're still in Asia there are no mh facilities or understanding. This 'man' is obviously not supportive as he's whinging on about not bonding with HIS child. Poor diddums has suddenly realised hooked up a younger prostitute is not the exotic dream he thought it was. Ha!

I realise I'm sympathizing somewhat with the ow here, but there seems to be more venom on her against her, than him. This man has treated both woman so badly. And seems to be abducting all responsibility for his adult child and his new baby. He's a wanker!

Personally I would be forwarding all ow's emails/texts back to him. Let him deal with it.

The mil can fuck right off. It's the adults children's choice and they have made it. When are they supposed to meet and bond with this baby? Is she offeeing to take them on holiday regularly to facilitate this? It sounds like mil is desperate to get her son back and thinks having all her grandchildren bonding will help this. A stock phrase of "they have decided, not my decision" perhaps?

Sweetieepea · 02/01/2019 17:33

@ speakout vulnerable Asian woman??? My arse!!

DeeStopia · 02/01/2019 17:34

The victim in all of this is not you, not your DH. Not even your kids really- it's awful to have an arse of a father but they're older. The victim is the poor little child that has been born with people already saying they don't want to know him.
He is your DC's sibling. Sounds like he's going to need all the help he can get. I'd encourage your children to treat him with kindness.

SandyY2K · 02/01/2019 17:38

Anothermum2467

Why so much hate from you?
The OP has not done anything wrong here.

The OW is not an innocent victim either.

speakout · 02/01/2019 17:51

Yes an Asian victim.

This man used a young prostitute half his age at a bar abroad- presumably Thailand?

These women are forced into the sex industry as a last option and abused by Western men.

THis guy is vile.

DarklyDreamingDexter · 02/01/2019 17:57

Your ex-H, his mum, his wife - ignore them all, they are no longer any of your concern. Your DC are adults. Let them decide what they want to do regarding their half-sibling. Don't get drawn into the drama. Move on with your life with your head held high. Your ex-H has been a fool, like many middle-aged men, but that's his problem to sort out.

This neatly sums it up. ^^

Annandale · 02/01/2019 17:58

His secretary is 70?? I hope that's by choice that she's still working, couldn't he get her some financial advice and a pay rise so she can plan to retire?

maximumcarnage · 02/01/2019 18:05

Rofl sorry that tickled me. Wish all the muck being tossed about at the OH, OP, exH and kids and someone chimes in with concern the secretary. Not being sarcastic. Genuinely tickled me. Grin

Lemonfizzle · 02/01/2019 18:05

Thanks for your comments... a few seem to be going off at a tangent and I suppose several years of hurt does not come across well in my original posting.
ExH has lived in Asia half his life so he's not stupid and yes indeed, the OW was wanting a better life. Fair play to her.
The point really is that the MIL keeps banging on about the baby, yet the ExH tells our children NOTHING about the baby and has purely done nothing but feed negatives about his relationship to the children.
Forget me, prostitutes, Asia, affairs, abuse, police .... blah, blah... surely any "father" who wanted all his kids to be one merry threesome would actually TELL his adult children if he was married, what the baby was called (this took 6 months), if the baby is indeed staying in his life...??

OP posts:
DeeStopia · 02/01/2019 18:09

It's not about what he wants though OP. It's about the fact that your children have a sibling. It's not the child's fault any more than it is your DCs fault. They should/could have a relationship regardless of their father (who sounds like an arse.)
If your adult DD really bursts into tears when her baby brother is mentioned, she needs help. I'm not being facetious, I'm genuine.

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