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dont know difference between abuse and normal

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sabrina1234 · 24/12/2018 10:57

So I've been in an abusive relationship with my boyfriend, he used to hit me and put me down constantly and isolated me from my family and friends. We broke up and then I took him back but since then he has actually changed. However, something happened last night that made me feel really stupid and as though I cannot recognise abuse and was probably the reason I let it go on for so long.
So last night my sister walked past my dad and pushed him slightly so she can get past and my dad punches her back. Now I know my dad shouldn't have punched her but recently her attitude has absolutely stank, she's been the most selfish and rude person lately and I know it was wrong of my dad to hit her but at the same time all I could think was that she shouldn't have provoked him. Now I know this is a wrong way to think. It wasn't till I texted my friend that I was like, abuse is abuse doesn't matter if she was to say anything or hit him , a grown man should never hit a girl.
Now this made me reflect on my own relationship, although my bf doesn't hit me no more, recently I have seen aggression in him, when we argue I like to be quiet for a while and then speak when things have calmed down, he's the opposite so when I'm quiet he hates it and thinks I'm provoking him, the last time we argued he held me by the neck to look at him and I was trying to get his hand off me. What's really frustrating is that later on he tries to play it down and says I'm exaggerating when I tell him what he did! It drives me crazy. And last night we were arguing over text about money. Basically I gave him £200 for something he wanted and he told me he'd pay me back by Christmas sales so I could buy my new phone, I know he won't have it by then so I straight up asked him and he said all I'll need to do is work a couple of more shifts which really pissed me off because I'm a student too and knew I could only work the past few months because I'd be busy right now. I worked really hard to earn that money. Then when we were arguing he said that he'd already told me he'd pay me back after 2 weeks when he never said that to me ?! Then he calls me a disgusting vile bitch and pathetic and that it's always about money for me. And that I'm inconsiderate as money is the last thing on his mind right now and I shouldn't be bringing it up because of his situation right now (his dad is dying from cancer). I didn't even want to argue with him. All I want to say was that I was really annoyed at him because he knows how hard I worked and I never even got a I'm sorry I understand. The thing I payed for was him to have an essay written for him for £200 which pisses me off even more. Writing this now, I feel like I am in abusive relationship still, I feel so dumb that I couldn't recognise it earlier. I feel like I'm going crazy and am scared that if I leave him I'll be with someone again who is abusive. I actually feel so frustrated because I just can't draw the line between abuse and normal

OP posts:
Mabelface · 24/12/2018 10:59

You're in an abusive relationship.

8FencingWire · 24/12/2018 11:08

You are in an abusive relationship.
Sorry my love, the best Christmas present for you would be gitting rid of him.

notapizzaeater · 24/12/2018 12:44

Yup, he's abusive .....

Dontknowwhatimdoing · 24/12/2018 12:51

If your Dad is violent, then it is hardly surprising that you have normalised abuse. Its not yourself you should be cross with. I have seen the Freedom program suggested on here a lot, it might be worth giving that a go. And your boyfriend hasn't changed at all, he's just behaving himself to drag you back in. It doesn't sound like he's even doing that very well.

C00lio · 24/12/2018 12:55

Sorry, but yes, he is really abusive.

You are right to be questioning how your own family background has affected the way you see things. You sound intelligent and aware and those qualities will help you find a much better relationship. If you can get counselling or therapy, or can talk it over with good friends, then obviously that will help as well.

Good luck OP xx

thethoughtfox · 24/12/2018 13:15

He is abusive. Please get support to leave x

MrsKCastle · 24/12/2018 13:24

He is abusive. Holding you by the neck is a huge red flag.

Please think very seriously about your options. Consider talking to women's aid and start making plans to leave safely.

pog100 · 24/12/2018 13:32

you have written about him before, unless there are a lot of women paying for their boyfriends to cheat?
He is totally and utterly bad news and you need to completely withdraw from him. It seems clear that your father is a pretty poor role model for you of how men should behave. I think you need to be single for a long time, and learn about normal relationships as much as you can.

Bananalanacake · 24/12/2018 13:33

I have seen on a previous thread about paying for your dps essay. Was that you? Answer is still the same. Get rid of him. Hope you are no longer isolated from your friends.

lottielottielottie · 24/12/2018 14:11

OP he is definitely abusive. Get rid of him regardless of the situation with his dad. The fact that he is using the situation regarding his dad as a scapegoat to avoid paying you/ discussing the money he owes you is disgusting. If you don't live with him it should be easy to get rid. Honestly OP, these types of people do not change Thanks

umpteennamechanges · 24/12/2018 14:11

He is definitely abusive, no question about that AT ALL.

For context what is normal in our relationship is that when we argue (not that often) we have a few cross words with an annoyed tone and a scowl.

Neither of us use any personal insults ever.
Neither of us shout or scream.
Neither of us touch each other - no pushing, no grabbing, no raised hands. No physical gestures at all.
Neither of us are scared of the other one or hurt at all.
No objects or walls are damaged.

There's no sulking, then one of us will say sorry and everything does to normal.

Neither of us would ever attack each other with any kind of personal insult or swear at the other person in anger.

That is a non-abusive relationship.

You need to leave this abusive man. You don't need to be with a man like your father.

Leave him and do the Freedom Programme with Women's Aid and/or get some free counselling via your uni (you said you are a student) or a domestic violence charity. The rest of your life doesn't need to be spent this way x

umpteennamechanges · 24/12/2018 14:12

*goes back to normal

Stoneagemum · 24/12/2018 14:29

Forget about the money and get the fuck away from him, your live is worth more than £200

Grumpyoldblonde · 24/12/2018 14:35

No matter how many times you post the answers will always be the same. Leave.

twominfromthebeach · 24/12/2018 15:01

He is a vile abuser and you deserve so much better. Please leave him ASAP, and I'd suggest you get some counselling too. If he is physically violent again you should call the police.

LTB and get some support and healing in place. Talk to your GP if you can, talk to Women's Aid, get the abuser out of your life and start rebuilding your spirit and confidence. Good luck :)

SnowyPaws5 · 24/12/2018 15:22

OP, leave him now. He is abusive. And so is your dad. Please make sure your sister is safe.

PuddinginPerth · 24/12/2018 17:19

I remember reading your original post and I know that you will be reading this right now. You are in an abusive relationship. You need to end it with him. Wait the two weeks until you get your money back if you must - but you need to understand that you might never get this money. Your boyfriend has no right to touch you, he has no right to abuse you. He should also not borrow money from you. Also, never ever lend a man money.

Atalune · 24/12/2018 17:21

Abuse.

Try the freedom programme, you need it.

Good luck to you and kick this waster to the kerb!

Dirtybadger · 24/12/2018 17:34

Dump. The. Cunt.

subspace · 24/12/2018 23:14

You ARE in an abusive relationship.

Abusers don't change.

Your dad is abusive.

Get the fuck out of there already

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