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Left my abusive marriage thanks to you all!

25 replies

user1499625336 · 24/12/2018 02:06

Thank you to all of you that responded to my thread back in August. Basically I was in an abusive marriage. I left and am now going through a traumatic divorce. It’s Christmas Eve and I’m fretting so thought I’d reach out and get opinions...

Shortly after leaving my marriage I met a guy. He seemed shy and he spoke to me kindly. I could tell when he looked at me that he was infatuated. I tentatively got involved but now constantly feel rejected and unloved.
He has a council flat (nothing wrong with that) but he had no furniture or carpets. I’d got a little nest egg and I insisted on helping him out. I felt sorry for him and considered us a team so I kitted him out. At this point I noticed he started telling little lies and would make excuses not to see me. It transpired that he smokes marijuana heavily- several times a day and was trying to hide it. Initially that was a dealbreaker but I’ve slowly started to adapt to his lifestyle.
He seems to have mood swings; when he’s happy I feel great but then he gets down and goes quiet. He always seems to be ill and although he works, he’s unreliable. He never has any money and I’ve paid lots of bailiffs off on his behalf.
Problem is I adore this guy. He’ll make me breakfast in bed and is consistent in his communication. He goes to the pub at weekends and even if I’m poorly he won’t change his plans. I’ll go to his place and wait up for him. He is not controlling and he encourages me to go out and enjoy myself with friends- that’s lovely but I’m not into that and would much prefer to just be with him. I actually feel sometimes that he simply doesn’t want me round all the time.
He is very guarded and has been cheated on in the past. He’s 37 and his longest relationship is two years. Whenever I go to his flat I clean up for him because to be honest he lives in squalor. He can be loving and will always ask if I need anything. His friends have all said he’s besotted with me but he only tends to open up with me when he’s drunk. He doesn’t drive and is happy watching sports and getting stoned in his spare time.
So what’s my problem? Well my parents think he’s bad for me. I haven’t got any savings left now. He knows this and has offered to help me out instead.
He has no family and his mum died- she had bipolar. I suspect he struggles with his own issues. He has no one close in his life (he only had a Birthday card from me) but he says it doesn’t bother him. I feel totally confused because he doesn’t show me how he feels. I ask him outright and say I don’t feel very loved and he apologises, blushes and reiterates that he finds it difficult to talk about emotions. Superficially we get on great but I feel there’s a lack of emotional connection. He lets me lead the relationship and has said we can go whatever pace I want. That’s nice but I doubt his authenticity. I seem to be doing the chasing, though if I pull back then he soon starts pursuing me.
I have no idea what a healthy relationship looks like. I’m forever analysing his words because of the abuse I’ve suffered in the past.
Should I end the relationship? Please help!!

OP posts:
Whisky2014 · 24/12/2018 02:10

Leave him. It's concerning you don't see that as the option. Less than 4 months in, he is a waster ffs.

People talk about the freedom programme...do that.

SpinneyHill · 24/12/2018 02:20

You spent ALL your money 'fixing' the shitty bits of his life, cleaning for him while he's carried on being uninterested in you unless he needs to be
How exactly is he going to start helping you out now?
Is it possible you are being used? the money you've spent must be a nice change for him.

SpinneyHill · 24/12/2018 02:28

If he has no-one in his life who is he drinking with? They obviously matter if he will not change his plans.

He is not that into you. Your instincts are right.

pissedonatrain · 24/12/2018 02:28

He sounds like a bottom of the barrel loser and user. Their lives are shite because they are shite and they find vulnerable women who like broken birds and suck the life out of them.

freedom programme...

user1499625336 · 24/12/2018 02:31

Thank you for your responses. It’s a bitter pill to swallow but yes I think he’s using me. I won’t see him for a couple of days; he proclaims to miss me but won’t walk across town to my house to see me. Once I do see him he wants to get sexual almost immediately. Afterwards he’s affectionate but I sense when I’ve outstayed my welcome. I’ve spoken to him about this but he denies it and says he’s ‘gutted’ when I have to leave. He says I’m welcome round his place anytime but he never invites me specifically unless he hasn’t seen me for a few days. He always says that he wishes he had money to take me on a date but when he has got cash he goes down the pub. I HATE the dawning realisation that I’m being a naive idiot but I think I need to dump him. Thank you all again and I’ll look up the Freedom program xx

OP posts:
ClemDanFango · 24/12/2018 02:32

He’s using you as a cash cow. You seriously need freedom programme, you’ve moved from one abuser to another this one is abusing your trust and love.
Take back what you can and ditch him, spend some time finding out who you are and what you want from your life before you embark on another relationship.

ClemDanFango · 24/12/2018 02:33

Eurgh what a manipulative prick! Run the like the fucking wind!

jessstan2 · 24/12/2018 02:41

Oh dear, you are settling for something less than you are worth.
Please stop - or try to stop - thinking of this man as a long term partner. He really isn't! Would you introduce your children to him with a view to him being a permanent fixture in your life (don't know if you have children)?

You can do better.

I understand how you feel but please try to see him as a 'friend with benefits' at the most and for goodness sakes, don't spend any more money on him! He undoubtedly has good points and he may be very nice in lots of ways but as a long term partner - NO!

You're a vulnerable girl, his problems are not yours. You will eventually meet someone else and wonder why you ever got involved with this one.

Don't make another big mistake. If you must keep seeing him in the meantime, enjoy it for what it is now but don't think long term.

Take it from one who has been there.

Flowers Wine and they are just for you.

GlorianaCervixia · 24/12/2018 02:41

You felt you were a team and spent your nest egg on him after only a few months? That’s not a relationship, that’s co-dependency.

He’s using you for money, sex and as his cleaning lady. And this is the early days of your relationship so this is him on his best behaviour! You deserve far better. Run, run, run. It will only get worse if you don’t.

SpinneyHill · 24/12/2018 02:47

Don't beat yourself up too much, you spotted it and called it.
You're allowed to have a short silly/regretful/embarrassing fling with someone totally unsuitable after a relationship breakdown.
File him under Rebound in your memory and move on xx

BendyLikeBeckham · 24/12/2018 02:50

you've jumped from the frying pan right into the fire.

leave him and sort your self esteem out woman!

Oliversmumsarmy · 24/12/2018 02:51

I think maybe you need to work on your self esteem.
I think you need to ask yourself why after only just leaving an abusive relationship you felt the need to start doing a guy's house up and paying his debts using your own money
Feeling sorry for someone and feeling like you are a team don't really go together.

You are still only 4 months in at the most and it seems odd you have put so much effort and cash in to this relationship. To put it bluntly what exactly does he bring to the table.
He appears to not want you around. He is only after what he can get and starts chasing you if you start to leave but puts no real effort in otherwise

Lozzerbmc · 24/12/2018 07:57

You need to end relationship as what do you get out of it? Hes nice to you ? You are worth more and you need to work on your self esteem. Hes nice to you because you have sex with him, give him money pay his debts and clean his house? No wonder. He has money for the pub and his weed but not for a date with you? Relationships should enrich your life and this doesnt make your life fuller!
But dont beat yourself up and be hard on yourself - learn from it. End it and take up some new interests to meet new people. Theres more to life than men too!

CryptoFascist · 24/12/2018 08:02

Here's an extract from Women Who Love Too Much:

<a class="break-all" href="https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=ta-tutor.com/sites/ta-tutor.com/files/handouts/ram167.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiPquzy_7ffAhUwUxUIHXshDt0QFjAFegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2rA_xH4hw5B7CAK8T4k4dk" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=ta-tutor.com/sites/ta-tutor.com/files/handouts/ram167.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwiPquzy_7ffAhUwUxUIHXshDt0QFjAFegQIAhAB&usg=AOvVaw2rA_xH4hw5B7CAK8T4k4dk

If this sounds like you, maybe consider getting the book? It's oldish but still relevant. Best of luck.

Chosenbyyou · 24/12/2018 08:03

He is not good enough for you.

kalinkafoxtrot45 · 24/12/2018 08:07

He‘s a waster and has already drained your finances. Be rid of him and take a bit of time out from relationships. You still need time to work through all that has happened and build up your self worth.

Miggeldy · 24/12/2018 08:09

You desperately need to develop higher standards in men. That should be your New Years resolution.

TheVanguardSix · 24/12/2018 08:09

Why would you leave one hot mess and step into another?
You should have left your ex husband for another person: YOU.
Now stop being a mug. Cut this loser loose. Get a job if you don't have one, start cycling if you don't, get a decent vibrator and use your imagination, get a cat, get a goldfish. Do stuff you haven't done and break the shackles pinning down your esteem and let it take flight and soar.

Do not believe that the measure of your worth is found in the warm body and pulse of a man. You need to not have a relationship with anyone but you at this point. Repeat after me, "It's ME time." This was my mantra after I split from my ex years ago. I left him for another woman: Me. It was The Best Thing I did. It empowered me and my confidence just blossomed. Do the same!

Charles11 · 24/12/2018 08:11

Leave this relationship. It doesn’t look like there’s a happy future here.

Take some time to be by yourself and work on your life without anyone holding you back.

Thingsdogetbetter · 24/12/2018 08:13

You have distracted yourself from your own problems and emotions by focusing on his. It's a tactic many of us use at the end of a bad marraige. But fixing him is impossible and won't actually help you. The shite you need to deal with will still be there. And the shite fallout from this loser will just add to it.

Dump asap and freedom programme asap.

Singlenotsingle · 24/12/2018 08:14

He must think all his Christmases have come together! A woman who is prepared to be used and abused, and who spends all her money on him! He's laughing at you. I hope you're not cooking dinner for him tomorrow OP?

PurpleWithRed · 24/12/2018 08:21

Given your marital history, meeting someone who spoke to you kindly, appeared infatuated, made considerate gestures and was grateful and appreciative must have been irrisistable. It is indeed a bitter pill to swallow to discover that these are just surface positives and that underneath this man is quite happy to take you for all you will offer and give nothing in return.

It sounds as if you need to recalibrate - Freedom programme, Relate, good self-help books as recommended above - to help you make sure your next man is worthy of you.

HopeHopity · 24/12/2018 08:24

OP I think you need to be on your own for a while. I was in an bad relationship and that led to several bad ones because I just dint know what was kind, normal and what I was worth
It took a few years on my own to be happy and slowly work on myself until I found someone that for the first time was drama free 💙

trojanpony · 24/12/2018 08:28

Aw OP FlowersFlowersFlowers

You are right this isn’t a healthy relationship. Ignoring all the other red flags, the timing of this relationship is a big one.
in 3 months (sep-Nov) you’ve met this hot mess of a guy, given him thousands(?) and the relationship has run its course because he is essentially a lazy friendless druggie loser.

You’ve essentially swapped one abuser for another. (This is really common btw so don’t feel naive or silly.)
Please listen to your parentsand run like the wind and stay far, far away from this guy.

I would also suggest you stay single for a while you will be prone to abusive personality & people who consciously ( or unconsciously) want to take advantage of you. Agree with others that you should date yourself and invest in you.

Good luck Flowers

MissTook · 24/12/2018 08:38

You sound lovely, op, but you can't solve his problems.
He's an interlude, you need to prepare your self esteem for
the main event. There are some lovely men out there and
you owe it to yourself to find him.

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