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Tips on how to deal with break up - it was my fault.

28 replies

browneyedboy · 14/12/2018 09:57

Hello Everyone. Sorry for the essay but want to give as much detail as possible..
I am a 33/m who has messed up bad. I met this girl (25) early October and we had a whirlwind relationship including going on holiday together and spending loads of time together (slept in each others flats nearly every night for the past 30 days before break up). I had been single for 2 years and met loads of girls on dates but never wanted to be with them, i always found a reason not to. But with her it was instant. I didnt believe in love at first sight until then. We told each other we loved each other after 1 week and i know i meant it. We had this connection, everything was wonderful, we were the soppiest couple ever. She met and got on with my kids so well too. We talked very early on about spending our lives together, marriage, viewed houses etc and she was desperate for me to propose which i did on Friday 30th Nov. I knew she was the one for me. She said yes as i expected but then within 6 days she broke up with me citing my behaviour. I know I am going to get a storm now but I have to be honest with you in order to get anything out of this thread.
I had previously (before engagement) mentioned to her that the skirt she wore to work was short. I didnt tell her to change but said guys will be looking at her and this made her feel self concious. She got angry at first but then offered to go shopping for new stuff which i refused as i didnt want her doing things and changing just to please me.
I realised during this relationship that i suffer terribly with jealousy. I have little self esteem no matter how much she told me that she thought i was handsome etc. She was too good for me, far too good. i'll never ever attract someone like her again.
Another time (after we got engaged) she went out to the gym and when she told me what time she arrived there it didnt add up so i asked her how it can happen that she took 30 mins to get somewhere 5 mins away. I KNOW she hadnt done anything wrong and i wasnt accusing her but i dont like it when things dont make sense and i didnt let it go for a few mins. again stupid. I had been cheated on and left by my wife 2 years ago so i guess that played a part too?
I also have a tendency to sulk instead of talk about things. If she said something on the odd occasion that 'upset' me I would go quiet and maybe not be so loving on my text messages. I guess this could be defined as punishing her?
Last Thursday lunchtime she asked where her happy man had gone and she felt like she was losing me. Before i had a chance to reply my o2 shut down completely and i couldnt even make calls or text messages. When i did get hold of her hrs later she had been with her mum all afternoon and seemed different and then when i picked her up from her mums later on she said she just wanted to talk in my car for a bit. my heart sunk and sure enough she broke up with me. I begged her and said i was so happy and would get help and change. She then softened and asked me to propose to her again which i did. then she went inside to her mums to get her bag and then changed her mind back and told me its over.
She clearly was influenced in my opinion (not that its relevant i guess)
I was and am heartbroken. I genuinely thought she would give me a chance to change my ways, after all she had agreed to spend her life with me less than a week before. (and a minute before if you count the 2nd proposal!). I thought that would allow me a chance after 1 'talk'?
She sent me a few messages that evening saying she missed me and that i was her soulmate but then on friday afternoon sent me a final goodbye saying i took her to wonderful highs but then accused me of controlling her and then said i can have the ring back when i want it (sooner rather than later). i have not had contact since. I deleted all the stuff from facebook as thats my coping mechanism. I am not one to stalk and all that. Its too painful.
I felt really down. REALLY down. and trying to cope with that and one way to do that is to stick to my promise to change.
I have since had 3 hrs of counselling, bought 2 books and am really going to change how i process and behave. I have been told i will never change jealousy. it is very common and will always be there but i can learn to manage it in better, less harmful ways. He said it is not my fault, its how i have been made but i can control my thoughts better.
I want to reach out to her but even the thought of doing so makes my heart feel like its pumping out of my chest with anxiety. What if she hates me? What if shes moved on? Did she mean any of what she said to me the past 2 months? Did she even love me at all?
Ultimately its my fault, i know that, but please could anyone give tips on what to do next as I am hurting bad. thank you

OP posts:
TheStoic · 14/12/2018 09:59

Learn from this and be better for your next partner.

5amnightpanic · 14/12/2018 10:05

She probably did mean the things she said at the time but doesn’t seem to have taken it very seriously. If you really love someone and want to spend your life with them I don’t think you’d refuse to give them chance to make a change.

It does sound like you need to work on your self esteem. Of course you’ll find someone like her again. You were coping just fine before you met her and you will cope just fine now. Be kind to yourself and get the confidence you need for the next relationship. And no, this wasn’t all your fault.

DeeStopia · 14/12/2018 10:05

TBH I can understand why she felt it was impossible to go on. Everything happened way too quickly, and somehow that often happens with jealous men.
Carry on with the counselling. I too have a jealous nature and have to constantly surpress my unreasonable feelings- but I do surpress them because I know it would be unfair on DP.

VietnameseCrispyFish · 14/12/2018 10:07

Please tell me you meant October 2017. Please.

CarolDanvers · 14/12/2018 10:07

Thank goodness she had strong boundaries as you were shaping up to be a total controlling nightmare. Learn from it. Women won’t put up with that shit anymore as a rule.

pudding21 · 14/12/2018 10:09

OP: we can't tell in which tone you accused her of spending too much time to go to the gym or that her skirt was too short. But I will say this, i was in a controlling relationship for many years, if any future boyfriend (no matter how much he was declaring to love me after one week) said those things, I would run a mile. How can you know someone enough to know you love them after 1 week? Sounds like lovebombing to me and not healthy.

Imagine 5 years down the line. You clearly have trust issues and you projected them onto her, and probably sounded a bit crazy. Its all a but too much and suffocating. She has asserted her boundaries, and left this relationship. What can you do? Leave her alone and if she wants to come back and contact you she will. In the meantime I would get some counselling to work on those trust issues you understandably have.

Being on the receiving end of stupid accusations is not nice. In fact its soul destroying and she had the wake up call she maybe needed to rein this back in.

pudding21 · 14/12/2018 10:10

vietnamese I am fairly certain he means October this year.......correct me if I am wrong, but I see red flags all over the place!

VietnameseCrispyFish · 14/12/2018 10:14

pudding21 i’m waiting for OP to clarify as I think there’s a chance he meant last year, if it was this year then there’s honestly nothing anyone can say to a man who thinks six weeks is an appropriate length of time to have met someone, involved them with their kids, proposed twice and tried to tell her what to wear. There really isn’t.

User3000 · 14/12/2018 10:27

Good for her, I'd run a mile from you too! Who do you think you are telling her 'her skirt is too short'?!

And you've only been with her since October?

Work on your issues before you get involved with anyone else.

hellsbellsmelons · 14/12/2018 10:30

If this is all true and happened this year then you really need some help.
I'm pleased you are getting counselling.
None of this is OK.
You get to know someone before you introduce them to your DC.
And you certainly do NOT love bomb and propose within weeks.
No wonder she ran a mile.
Most women would.
Jeez, what's the friggin' rush?????
Chill out. Enjoy dating. Take you time.
Really get to know someone.

You are also waaaay too controlling and jealous.
Lot's of work to do on yourself before inflicting yourself on the female population again!

BeekyChitch · 14/12/2018 10:30

Way too much way too soon. Yes your behaviour was controlling and you know it. Why on earth would you time how long it takes her to come from the gym and question it?!? I would say it's best to work on yourself first before projecting your insecurities onto someone else.

Mookatron · 14/12/2018 10:33

2 months of a relationship is not long enough to fall in love

3 hours of counselling won't change your behaviour

Slow. Down.

Musti · 14/12/2018 10:34

2 months in and you've had jealousy, telling her what to wear, being suspicious of her whereabouts, proposing twice....I would run a mile if I were her, especially after being in a controlling jealous relationship.

She's a 25 year old girl in love with you who has agreed to marry you. Think logically why she would cheat. If she wanted someone else she would be with them.

VietnameseCrispyFish · 14/12/2018 10:34

To be fair hells, OP does say it was the woman who was desperate for him to propose. And who asked him to propose again. And she has to have consented to meeting his kids too.

It sounds absolutely toxic from both of them, just it was her who felt the bubble burst first and ended it. Thankfully.

Prettyvase · 14/12/2018 10:38

You're simply not ready for mature relationships where sensitivity, give and take and respect are concerned.

You are humiliated and you are addressing the issues that brought you to this point, good for you.

Why not step back for a bit, reassess, be the greatest dad you can be ( you are a role model to your child so you need to be the best person you can be) and carry on with the counselling.

Never rush into a relationship again. Good luck.

AwdBovril · 14/12/2018 10:41

You need to work on your self esteem, & your jealousy issues. Any relationships you get into before these are improved, are liable to suffer. And yes - slow down!

browneyedboy · 14/12/2018 10:50

thank you everyone for your messages so far. Yes it was Oct this year, yes it was quick, but i would never have gone this far if it was one sided. I do not think i 'love bombed' her as she said all the same things as me so why am i the only guilty party in that? she could have said no!

I have realised just how bad what i said was based on these replies and feel even more stupid and humbled than i did before.

My initial question was whether or not to contact her but i think that has been answered quite emphatically!

I know i did wrong - I admitted that in my first post. I have taken steps to BEGIN to change as opposed to make the same mistake again.

thank you for your time

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NotTheFordType · 14/12/2018 11:10

WTF did I just read.

You met someone and decided to propose marriage within what, 6 weeks?

AgentJohnson · 15/12/2018 02:20

Easily influenced! Hopefully her mother talked some sense into her because your ‘stupid’ comments were definitely a red flag and don’t get me started on a proposal after a few weeks.

The truth is, you have issues and you can’t work on them if you don’t fully acknowledge them. Your comments weren’t just stupid they were a verbal manifestations of your deep insecurities and if the relationship had of continued, those insecurities would have become more prevalent and chipped away at your Ex. Do not underestimate how insidious/ manipulative your ‘silly’ comments were.

You simply weren’t ready for a relationship and in my opinion rushed this one because of your insecurities. What happened here should be a wake up call and used as a catalyst to work through the roots of your insecurities. Your poor Ex was not the cause of your insecurities but the unfortunate target.

If you really did love this girl, be very grateful that she had someone in her corner who cared enough about her to point out that your relationship was not in her best interests.

Cawfee · 15/12/2018 05:17

Wow. Just wow. Take a breath dude. How long before you proposed? That’s not quick, that’s reckless and ridiculous. You’ve got serious issues. Stay in therapy. Do lots more. Lots. Do not date until you’ve had lots more help.

sadiesnakes · 15/12/2018 05:17

IMO she has had a lucky escape Hmm

Monday55 · 15/12/2018 06:35

As everything has happened too fast, maybe take the break-up as your first fight and call her. Just avoid bombarding her with the "I'll change plea". Apologising and mentioning what you did was wrong would be a good start.

ivykaty44 · 15/12/2018 07:18

Sensible girl for realising now that your jealousy is going to reck a relationship. Sadly for you it’s to late on this occasion but hopefully you’ll learn so much from this that you’ll work so hard to channel those feelings in a much better way if your with someone else

Enigmam · 15/12/2018 07:20

Why did you introduce her to your children after such a short time? Are you one of those men who introduce every 5 minute wonder to their children? I pity them.

ClaireElizabethBeauchampFraser · 15/12/2018 08:00

You are 33 years old! She is only 25! Yet has shown more maturity than you in her boundaries and determination to end things!

Your post has been carefully worded to excuse every one of your controlling behaviours! Within two months you had proposed and were already carefully chipping away at your ex to get her to make changes to placate you!

You were ABUSIVE

Why the hell were you tracking your brand new girlfriend of 8 weeks, timing how long she took between driving from A to B? That is seriously warped behaviour!

You have even added that ‘she was influenced’ which shows that if you could get your claws into her again, you would be manipulating/ coercing her into reduced contact with her friends and family (as they dared to influence her- aka telling her to run for the bloody hills from a controlling and manipulative abuser).

If you are on here op’s Ex, then please run for the hills! Do not under ANY circumstances let this abuser back into your life as he will systematically destroy you, starting with your self esteem and moving onto every other area of your life that you allow him control over. Thank goodness you and your Mum have your head screwed on right! Please look into the freedom program, as there were red flags all over this relationship and he should never have got as far as he did!

OP- look up limerance! This website is Australian but may be helpful

www.theline.org.au/are-you-controlling-in-your-relationship

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