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Suspect DH of emotional cheating with colleague

21 replies

laila05 · 06/12/2018 15:49

Hi
I have always been a silent member and always appreciated the support this group provides. Today I need little help and sanity check from you. Please bear with me as it will be a long post. DH and I almost been married for 10 years and have two beautiful DS. We had our ups and downs over those years. In the last two years I thought that our relationship was doing really well and was stable. We had few fights which every couple has.
In the last few months DH started becoming close to a female work colleague. She is married and has three DDs. The colleague had given him presents over the last year or so which he had told me were from her. He asked me to bring few presents for her daughters and her when I went abroad to visit my parents which I did. till then I didn't suspect anything. Few weeks ago she had arranged a party at her home where only work colleagues were invited and not spouses. As her place is at an hours drive from where we live. DH said that she has offered him to stay her place after the party as there was going to be drinking etc. I found that strange because DH is someone who is very reserved although her husband and daughters were going to be there too. I told him why not get a hotel room to which he decided that he will come back home and not stay the night.
Few days after that I was going through his phone looking for something and saw texts between him and her. DH is not someone who shares his emotions easily but with her he was very appreciative for all her support and had put a heart at the end. She had sent various texts to him as well thanking for his support etc with smiley and heart eyes. In all our married life he has only sent me heart in a message once or twice in a text. DH and the colleague had gone away in October to a conference with other work colleagues where he had been asking her where is she and what time will they meet up for dinner. In all her replies she had smiley with heart eyes. I didn't say anything to DH about texts as I thought I am being paranoid. What I did do though was ask him whether it was ok for work colleagues to exchange hearts in a message. He asked me whether someone had sent it to me and I said yes. and his reply was that is not right and shouldn't happen.
The other change in our married life was that in last few months DH had become more sexually active and saying things you are hot and other things when he never said that in last 10 years. We started experimenting new things too. which all made me think that our relationship was going really well.
Over the wknd we had a fight about how he is not actively trying to look for another job opportunity. He currently works at two places. One is permanent position and other contract. His excuse was I don't have time. I asked why not leave permanent (that's where the colleague) is and do contract. His reply was that I am never going to leave that workplace as I get support from that work place which I don't from you at home. That's when I brought up the texts. He first got offended and then said that she is just a really good friend. I then asked about the heart messages to which he said that we are like brother and sister. We had a major fight and I left the room. I then received an e-mail which informed me that he had changed his e-mail password. I hadn't even looked at his e-mails. When I asked him he said that he was just protecting himself. Since then we haven't been talking.
I am mentally and physically exhausted. Can't stop myself from crying. He insists that there is nothing and I am being paranoid,. I don't know what to think. I have lost faith in him. 9 years ago we had a similar fall out where I had seen an e-mail where he had confessed that he is still in love with his ex and marrying me was biggest mistake of his life. Is it normal for work colleagues to exchange heart text messages? Does any of the above sounds normal. or am I being paranoid.

OP posts:
Itiswhatitisso · 06/12/2018 16:21

I wouldn't have thought so, no.

I do on texts, but only with people I have a romantic attachment to.

Sorry.

BumbleBeee69 · 06/12/2018 16:26

Phone her Husband and ask him if the heart texts are her normal thing Hmm

Itiswhatitisso · 06/12/2018 16:27

No, don't phone her husband.

ScrantonTheElectricCity · 06/12/2018 16:29

No it isn't normal imo. He appears to be very cagey and changing his email password???? Very suspicious

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/12/2018 16:33

Not normal, no, OP. It sounds very much as if this has moved to a physical affair of sorts too, sorry. The fact that your sex life has perked up and the new parlance, ie. "You're hot!", when he's never said that before - coupled with the heart-eye texts. No colleague sends that to another colleague... not unless there is something going on.

It's not brotherly/sisterly either. I send my brother the 'poo' emoji, not heart-eyes. I might also send the 'bat' emoji. Not romantic ones. Why would anybody do that to somebody they have 'sibling' feelings for? Answer: They wouldn't.

The fact that you've had this scenario nine years ago and he said such an awful thing to you makes me think that you should look at getting your paperwork in order just in case you decide to leave at some point (which I personally, would).

Sorry, I'm sure there's more that you've spotted but from one post, those are my conclusions. He's a shit.

laila05 · 06/12/2018 16:34

Thanks for confirming that its not just my imagination. :(

OP posts:
laila05 · 06/12/2018 16:41

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe I suppose I should have picked up on it earlier. For me it was more that we have two DS and that we have a good stable relationships. We do things as a family but after seeing his text and then the fight over the wknd started making me wonder why did our physical relationship suddenly perk up. :(

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userxx · 06/12/2018 16:42

It doesn't sound good at all. I send the heart eye emoji to someone who I am romantically involved with or my girl mates if they are showing me a new handbag or something like that. Him being more sexually active, saying and doing new things is also a massive red flag.

mouthkisses · 06/12/2018 16:45

Not within the boundaries of a normal colleague relationship, no. But also not necessarily an affair. There are loads of possibilities somewhere between the two. You will know what is a deal breaker and what isn't. Try and encourage him to talk about it, can you handle him being honest about how he feels? It's your best chance of putting their relationship and associated feelings into perspective. Yes, he might be close to her. He might also fancy her. But for it to be an emotional affair, the feelings would need to be reciprocated (or at least alluded to) by her.

Changing the email password is suspicious, he doesn't want you to read the emails, but it's maybe out of embarrassment rather than guilt.

Be open and honest, it's the only way to the truth and only then will you know how to react.

Cawfee · 06/12/2018 16:53

OP, heart messages are not ok. He even said it wasn’t ok when he thought you were the one getting them!! He can’t change his mind when it’s him. He’s messing around. Sorry OP but I personally would have left him 9 years ago. He’s not nice and he’s not trustworthy. His lack of respect for you is shocking

Monday2018 · 06/12/2018 17:01

Sorry, but definitely doesn't sound innocent to me. If he had nothing to hide, then why change his password?. My husband did this once, when I discovered porn on his phone that a so called friend of ours was sending him. I insisted he tell me the password or give me a devorce. Trust is key for any relationship to work and his actions certainly don't seem appropriate if you have no reason not to trust him. My husband changed his password back straight away after I insisted and blocked our so called friend who would not stop sending him this porn dispite my hubby asking him to stop. I think our daughter seen one of the videos and I was fuming.

I would ask him for the new password and explain that you need to reassure yourself it is all as innocent as he claims. I suspect that something that may have started as work friends has now moved into more than friends and it certainly sounds like they have feelings for each other at least, even if they haven't acted on any feeling yet the love heart eyes are a sign that it's going that way, down a more romantic way.

I did support a work colleague once who was suffering from depression. He would come in having a bad day and need someone to talk to. He saw me as approachable and a good listener, but never ever did we put a x or love hearts on any of our messages. Not even once!

Stay strong.

BookwormMe · 06/12/2018 17:01

It does sound dodgy, sorry OP, especially as he has form. How on earth did he explain away, and you get over, him sending that email saying marrying you was a mistake and he still loved his ex?

Monday2018 · 06/12/2018 17:04

I agree with Cawfee and would have left him 9 years ago, how could you forgive him saying such a horrible thing

Changedname3456 · 06/12/2018 17:06

I (male) would find it very odd to get heart emojis from a female, or male for that matter, colleague or from anyone other than my DP.

Maybe I’m a bit old fashioned, but I find it uncomfortable enough when good female friends send a single x at the end of texts, which some do. I never reciprocate as it feels wrong to me, even though there’s no intention by my friends for it to mean anything. But then I feel rude for not, so it’s all a bit Confused

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/12/2018 17:07

OP, it doesn't matter that you didn't act nine years ago. Knowing what you know now, what will you do? That's what matters. You have two boys that need to know and understand how to treat women and that their mum isn't going to stand for this nonsense.

This isn't on you, no judgement whatsoever on you - just heartfelt sympathy - but heaps of judgement on your foul husband.

userxx Oh, I use heart-eye emojis for handbags definitely - and shoes. With girl friends. It never feels weird because it isn't. That's the difference, isn't it?

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe2726 · 06/12/2018 17:10

mouthkisses, sorry but you're naïve. Being 'open and honest' is fine and dandy when people are open and honest. OP's husband is not He is lying to her, misleading her and trying to divert her attention.

Talking to him and asking him to be open and honest would be like putting your head in a lion's mouth and asking it to kindly "Not bite!".

magoria · 06/12/2018 17:17

I am sorry you are going through this OP.

I think his increased and new sexual appetite is because he is turned on by her. They may not have actually had sex, I wonder if her H and DC were at the party, however I think they have crossed a big line.

He has immediately shut down your access to anything 'to protect himself' from what exactly? Not the actions of an innocent person.

Poster65 · 06/12/2018 17:19

Struggling to think of a potential innocent explanation OP. I’m sure you are too but here comes the gaslighting from your husband and you’re here asking for a sanity check - he’s making you doubt your own gut feelings

AnchorDownDeepBreath · 06/12/2018 17:23

It says everything that he's changed his email password. That means he's got something to hide in there - or at least he did.

laila05 · 06/12/2018 17:23

Mouthkisses I know I need to have open conversation with him one of these days but I am not finding the energy in me to start that yet. I am too emotional to have a rational conversation.
According to him he has changed the password because 9 years ago when I had found the e-mail I had changed his password for few days and forwarded the e-mail to my family. I stayed with him 9 years ago because it was my second marriage as first was a very abusive relationship and I just thought that if we can get past this it will be fine. We went through extensive therapy.
Changedname3456 it further reinstates that its not right to send heart emojis.

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user1479305498 · 06/12/2018 17:35

Many moons ago (13 years) I saw just 2 texts on my Hs phone, one was from a 21 year old that did bits of work for us but also went on tour with my H, it said ‘thank you my Xmas angel x’. The other from him to her said (just beforexmas) ‘everything here is horrible, wish I was where you are now’ (Middle East seeing her ex pat parents’) At the time he dismissed it and said she always sends texts like that, calls people angel etc , and by ‘everything being horrible’ he was talking about his mum being very seriously ill. I wish I had snipped a lot harder, 11 years later find a ton of longing stuff he had written about her, was clearly I think a very bad infatuation, don’t know if it went both wAys but there was a lot of texting. It knocked me for six and I felt a complete idiot. I’m still in two minds to be honest. What I would say OP is now is the time to keep calm and snoop if necessary, don’t be a mug like me and let it drift or ‘take his word for it’ . I personally find it very bad form to send heart stuff to a colleague, is she12!! I think this may well be an EA but don’t take his word that it’s nothing

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