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My wife isn't in love with me anymore

33 replies

Tinpanalley78 · 01/12/2018 00:43

Hello,

My wife and I have been together for 15 years. We have 2 daughters aged 6 and 9.

After our second daughter was born, we agreed to sleep in separate rooms, so that she could feed the baby while I needed a decent night's sleep as I worked far from home (about 1 1/2 hours away by car). This also allowed her to sleep better as I snore very loudly. This arrangement has not been good to our relationship as a couple, and it took me way too long to figure this out. We slowly became "housemates" rather than lovers. I'm no couch potato and I do a lot of work around the house and with the kids, although I admit my wife does most of the planning.
I have for years asked if I could come back to sleep in our bedroom. She has always said no, not even on weekends. For the last few years, she would deliberately avoid me, locking herself up in her bedroom and watch TV, while I had to cook dinner for the kids and I after coming home from work. Then she would complain that I had taken too long to make dinner and that the kids were in bed too late. She would snap at me for pretty silly reasons, and this has taken a toll on my happiness and self esteem.
She suggested we see a therapist, which made me feel angry as I thought everything was her fault.

Having consulted the therapist, I understood that I had to change my behaviour and that we both had things we needed to work on. I quit my job for another one nearby that allowed me to be even more available to drive and pick up the kids from school. However, I feel her behavior has not changed.

She is not interested in family activities. It's like spending time with us (and especially me) is a chore to her. She regularly asks me to watch the kids so she can go running with her friends. She shows no interest whatsoever in my hobbies or the work I do around the house. I do admit I don't surprise her very often or tell her nice things either, because when I do, she tells me it's no use. When I try to give her a peck on the cheek when I leave for work, she turns her head in disgust.

We used to be like peas in a pod. I miss her so much.
I confronted her about the situation a couple of days ago. It had been a long time since we communicated honestly like that. She said she didn't think she was in love with me anymore, but didn't want to hurt me or tear our family apart. She cried. I told her that something needed to be done. That if she felt we should split, I would accept it, but that I loved her and that separation was not what I wanted. I told her that I felt sharing a bedroom was the cornerstone of a healthy relationship and that our decision to sleep separately was a huge mistake that I take responsibility for. She said sharing a bedroom with me was absolutely out of the question...

Even my dad, who had always greeted and accepted my wife, asked to have a talk with me as he and the rest of my family were concerned that my marriage was making me unhappy. I know it sounds like I'm blaming my wife for our situation, but I'm not. I want to know what I can do to find the spark and complicity we once had. She used to be so affectionate. The problem 9s that whatever i do or say, I feel she'll take the wrong way. I feel utterly powerless.

OP posts:
ViragoKnows · 01/12/2018 00:47

If it’s over, sadly, then it’s over. Don’t wait for her to call the shots. Start arranging a separation yourself. It sounds like it’s been awful for years & doing more of the same is pointless, isn’t it?

Casmama · 01/12/2018 00:54

I’m sorry but your wife has obviously checked out of this relationship emotionally. Shehas been willing to coexist and coparent but if even a kiss on the cheek makes her cringe then there is no way back.
It’s not helpful to kid yourself that you could recapture what you once had, you need to make plans to move on, as difficult as that may be to hear.

Hopoindown31 · 01/12/2018 07:26

Sounds like your wife is hiding from reality and cowardly waiting for you to end the relationship so you have to leave and take the flack for walking out on your family. She may even be seeing someone else. Your marriage is over and she is not brave enough to end it.

Unfortunately this is a shitty situation and my advice is that which is given to women on here all the time. Get your ducks in a row; collect all your info about your finances mortgage etc and go and see a solicitor before you separate.

Good luck.

wombat1a · 01/12/2018 07:36

Get all the info you need and start the divorce proceeding since you have not had a working marriage for many years.

maximumcarnage · 01/12/2018 07:38

Some good advice above. I’ve been in this situation before and spent ridiculous amounts of time and effort trying to save what in the end was obviously dead. It broke me when increasingly the effort was one sided.

I’m affraid it’s over. I know it’s going to be tough and it’ll hurt, I was devastated, but in the end it was best for everyone. Really feel for you. Best of luck.

Mainie · 01/12/2018 07:39

What have you done to combat your snoring?

Villagelifer · 01/12/2018 07:40

I'm sorry OP, that sounds horrible.
It doesn't sound like there is much left to salvage if she refuses to share a bedroom. Did she say why? Have you tried having a date?
You can't make someone love you. If she's not willing to do anything to improve the relationship then you need to move on.

MyOtherProfile · 01/12/2018 07:41

It's really sad but I think it may be time to suggest she moves out. Im sorry- you sound lovely but she does seem to have checked out a long time ago.

bastardkitty · 01/12/2018 07:51

Why would she move out?

I think leaving someone to look after a baby overnight every night and prioritsing your own sleep is unforgivable. It's so deeply self-centred and yet you didn't have a clue that you were harming your relationship. Why did you think everything was her fault? The other thing is that NOW you've decided you want things to change, you think it's up to her to end the relationship if she doesn't. It's your relationship and your decision to make. There is no turn off like 'my family are worried about how unhappy she maes me'. It sounds like a horrible situation. It's really okay for YOU to call time on it.

bastardkitty · 01/12/2018 07:52

I second @Mainie 's question!

NameChange457 · 01/12/2018 08:11

@bastardkitty did you read the op?

The op said they decided it was better they slept in separate bedrooms and that they both slept better as a result. How does that make the op selfish?

Even if it had been solely the op’s decision, driving tired can kill. It is not selfish to prioritise the sleep of someone whose tiredness could kill others, over the sleep of someone who i’m taking from the op was a sahm.

The wife is the one refusing to share even at weekends (when it would be sensible to share the night waking load)

bastardkitty · 01/12/2018 08:20

so that she could feed the baby while I needed a decent night's sleep as I worked far from home

Yes, I can read.

MyOtherProfile · 01/12/2018 08:59

Why should she not be the one to move out? She's the one who has checked out of the relationship and locks herself in her room rather than engage with the whole family. It doesnt seem to be just OP she keeps her distance from.

sackrifice · 01/12/2018 09:04

spark and complicity

Your choice of words here is quite telling. Perhaps complying with your demands is what led her to check out. I take it you weren't worried about her sleep in the early days, just your own?

Stuckforthefourthtime · 01/12/2018 09:12

Why is everyone focussed on the sleep? DH and I have always agreed that I do the wakings, as I'm a light sleeper so wake anyway, and have breastfed. So long as the partner is making it up elsewhere (like sleep-ins in the morning and taking on more responsibility in the evening) it's a completely workable plan and not selfish unless she didn't want it.

Op I agree with others that this will only work if you are both in it together - no matter who did what in the past.

Did you do therapy together? If not, that's important,if only to give her an opportunity to be frank - also she says she doesn't want to hurt you, but clearly she already is, so that needs to be said too.
Who is the main carer? If you want to be involved, you moving out is not necessarily a good idea. I'd talk to a lawyer too.

safetyfreak · 01/12/2018 09:19

She has lost her romantic interest in you. Fine but is she willing to work on this? Lay sex off the table for now...work on going on dates together just you two. If she is not willing to try and regain that spark well, what is the point?

Snowballs4ever · 01/12/2018 09:30

I think it was a sensible decision to have separate rooms when the baby was young. Why have two exhausted parents pointlessly if she was feeding the baby. Lots of people do this (me included).

I dont think thats what broke the marriage. It sounds like your wife has gradually checked out of the relationship. I dont think theres anything left to salvage. Maybe talk again and tell her if you cant agree a plan to work on the relationship you want a divorce. You deserve to be happy.

Cawfee · 01/12/2018 10:49

It can be really hard when you have little ones. Are you still doing marriage counselling? How much did you do? Friends of mine had 18 months of weekly sessions as things were so bad and they are still together and now happy. It’s worth trying that again if you only had 6 sessions for example as you sound like you still love her. You’ve got family. Get them to have the kids and take her away for a long weekend. How old is she? Is she 40s? Is her sleeping/general health good? I’d say it’s worth checking out every avenue before calling it a day. Locking herself in the bedroom sounds extreme and my inkling is she’s depressed? Could that be part of this?

Wherearemymarbles · 01/12/2018 15:07

Its over. She doesnt love you and I suspect everything is down to the fact she is miserable but is not prepared to be one one end it.

You may well love her but who the hell wants to be with someone who doesnt love them?

Oh and ignore the muppets talking about sleep. Yours was a practical solution for the early days off sleepless nights adopted by plenty of couples. Howver its possible your wifevwas begining to check out even then

Fizzysours · 01/12/2018 21:13

My husband snores. I desperately need my sleep. People need to sleep! Our relationship nearly broke down as he continually made me feel guilty for sleeping in another room. He has stopped doing this and a lot of our affection has come back. Afraid you sound a bit manipulative and whingy OP. Loads of couples sleep seperately. PEOPLE NEED SLEEEEEEEP

Closetbeanmuncher · 01/12/2018 21:37

What exactly is your wife contributing to this relationship as at the moment you sound like a live in babysitter and general skivvy.

I don't think anything you do will be enough because she will just continue to move the goalposts.

Shes checked out emotionally, didn't complete her action points from counselling and has now directly admitted she doesn't love you.

The best move for both of you is to end it amicably and coparent. You're flogging a dead horse here.

CaptainCabinets · 01/12/2018 22:28

She’s setting it all up so you’ll leave her and look like the bad guy.

I feel sad for you, you sound like a nice guy.

Deadringer · 01/12/2018 23:38

Do people seriously believe that this is about snoring? Op your dw has checked out of the marriage, she no longer loves you, she might even have her eye on someone else. As pp said get you ducks in a row and start to plan your separation.

surlycurly · 02/12/2018 00:07

Youngest child is 6- this is not a baby being discussed. My ex snores and I made him move out of our bedroom with DC2 because it meant I at least for some sleep. I let him back in however, as sleeping apart is not always good for your marriage if you want the intimacy. (Admittedly some great marriages don't function in this way). You wife doesn't like you, never mind love you. I'm sorry for this as it's a horrible feeling. She is trying to make you leave however. Maybe you should see a solicitor and get your ducks in a row. Good luck OP

SandyY2K · 02/12/2018 00:08

This is nothing to do with the snoring.

She's long checked out of the relationship and you getting close repels her.

She's happy to have you financially providing and contributing to household...but no more.

I'd not be surprised if she has a lover.

Decide if you'll stay and coparent...and be free to have other relationships or seperate/divorce.

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