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Feel so desperately sad

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immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 19:32

I am a lone parent to two young adult children. I became a parent very young. My own parents were extremely angry, disappointed and worried about the long term ramifications of potentially starting again as parents in their very late forties/early fifties. To cut a very long story short our relationship just broke down completely. My mum had always been a very heavy drinker and she died 18 months after my DD was born, and a month before my DS was born. My dad just left with another woman weeks later. So I suppose what I am saying is that I’ve raised two children totally completely alone. And it’s been hard.

Despite that we’ve coped and I’ve tried to be as good a parent as possible and looked after the children as best I could. But things just feel as if they have nosedived in recent years.

My dad died nearly five years ago, very very suddenly. We had not been close for years after my mum died but I was still devastated. There was so much left unsaid between us and even though I resented him for leaving me as a child really (albeit one a few months from her eighteenth birthday!) and for just standing by and letting my mum behave as she did, I also did love him very, very much and we ‘got’ each other. He was also always financially supportive although this also came with a certain amount of being overbearing and rather dogmatic some of the time. Even so, it was a great loss. My daughter was doing her a levels and my son his GCSEs at the time and they were upset too. Still they both did well. DD went to university. DS went to college.

My DS has autism but is very high functioning. He was generally okay when younger. He was definitely ‘intense’ and words such as ‘eccentric’ appeared with regularity when describing him but as a child these added to his charm: he had glasses and dark hair like a little Harry Potter and would regale any adult he met with stories about dinosaurs or Star Wars and he appeared cute and quirky.

As he grew up his difficulties became far more marked and he developed some quite macabre interests. His big problem (as I see it) is that he just doesn’t get humour - if someone tells him a joke he either doesn’t respond at all or robotically comes back with Ha Ha Ha. Unfortunately he started watching some comedians and reading books which derive their humour from ‘satire’ of a racist or sexist or generally socially unacceptable manner and because he doesn’t understand humour he repeats these jokes believing them to be daringly amusing and then of course they go down badly Sad I have had this conversation with him so many times but in the moment when he’s trying to impress he forgets and gets carried away. He’s caused a lot of offence to people though this. He is ridiculously easily led by others - he looks to others for acceptable behaviour and can’t see when they are laughing at him.

He started to overdose on prescription medication about eighteen months ago, when combined with alcohol this makes him downright bizarre, shouting in the street and (on two memorable occasions) smearing shit throughout the house, he had to be physically pinned down in hospital in August. That was awful as like many people with autism he hates being touched and lashed out and I had to plead with the hospital not to press charges. Anyway that is by the by.

But it’s all really breaking me. I have all but given up asking for help wit DS, he won’t engage with anything or anybody so there is no point. DD met a lovely boy and moved in with him, I am happy for her but she seems to be increasingly immersed into his family and it seems to highlight all that is wrong with mine. I don’t honestly want her to become my confidante or crutch but just the same for a mother and daughter that had been so close ... I feel like I’m losing her. In addition I also had some dear friends who I’ve drifted apart from, no ones fault, just life.

But I just feel as if everything I loved and held precious and dear to me is vanishing. My son hates me. He hates me because I had him, and he hates himself. Of course he doesn’t really hate me, he hates himself, but I’m an easy target. He rants on at me and tells me he is a loser, ugly (he isn’t actually, he is a perfectly pleasant looking young man but he has wild hair and he doesn’t shower or wash as much as he should and he wears clothes several sizes too large.) He controls every room in the house: if I am watching television and get up for a wee I come back and he’s there with a horror movie on. I got him his own tv but he prefers the one in the lounge so I am in my bedroom alone most nights.

My cat was put to sleep last month. I thought it was the right thing to do. But when it came to it he mewed when the vet injected him and his eyes were open in death looking shocked and scared. I had that cat for years, and I am so upset thinking his last minutes may have been terrified and in pain. He was old, and ill.

I just feel so unhappy about my life right now. I am so lonely with my friends and dd having drifted and DS being well DS and no other family. I am dreading Christmas.

I read a book where one of the characters drove away with a gun and their passport and it said something like it being the last Christmas they would have as things were and the inference was they’d either leave the country or die. And it’s weird but it sounded so peaceful. I keep replaying that in my mind, driving away to the sea maybe on Christmas Day and walking and coming back to the car and quietly drifting away. I wouldn’t, so that’s not a suicide threat so please don’t delete my post it’s just how it feelS.

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NationalShiteDay · 28/11/2018 19:56

Oh bless OP Flowers

I can see why you feel so alone, it sounds like you've had a really hard time of it.

I can see from my own parents that when the kids flew the nest they really struggled with their identity, could there be an element of that here?

Do you work? Or have any hobbies you enjoy?

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 20:07

It’s partly struggling with my identity. I do work, yes. Hobby wise I don’t know, I used to do a few things but I can’t seem to get interested in anything. I used to be quite arty/creative and read loads and volunteered but I’ve lost my enthusiasm.

I am 39 next year and I feel as if it’s imminently close to 40 and all the things that should accompany me as I edge towards middle age are not mine to have and it’s breaking me Sad

OP posts:
NationalShiteDay · 28/11/2018 20:17

all the things that should accompany me as I edge towards middle age are not mine to have

Shock 39 is not middle aged!!!

What is it that you would like to have OP? Maybe if you wrote them out we can help you figure out a way to get them!

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 20:25

Edge towards Smile not there yet. But my forties are imminent. I don’t have a family apart from my children; DS is so troubled and dd is moving on. I don’t have a partner, I don’t even have many friends. I will probably spend Christmas alone in my bedroom. It’s just not what I pictured.

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Innocentconglomeration · 28/11/2018 20:28

Oh love I have nothing to say except Flowers

Could you go to the GP and see if they can access help for you and DS?

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 20:30

They can’t. He’s an adult and I can’t supersede the law.

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Innocentconglomeration · 28/11/2018 20:31

You can ask him to leave?

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 20:43

Where to? That would solve nothing other than meaning I would very likely have his death on my conscience.

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Innocentconglomeration · 28/11/2018 20:45

I’m sorry. I’ll bow out. Good luck. I hope you feel better soon and get some kind of resolution that works for you.

Mayhemmumma · 28/11/2018 20:53

Oh OP I'm sad reading this. Think of it like this, you are there for your son 100% even if it means retreating to your room, you are putting him first. You are a good mum. Your daughter is confident, happy and moving forward in a new relationship, you might feel distant in the glow of new love but just continue to be there for her. You are a good mum. You were there for your much loved cat in their last moments and that is comfort enough. You did the right thing.

Christmas is hard. Reach out to friends you have and attempt to make contact.

BluebellsareBlue · 28/11/2018 21:01

I'm so sad reading this. What a lovely, kind, intelligent,strong woman you sound OP.

I don't have any advice other than you need to try and take some more control (I'm sure you have already done this). If you are in the lounge you need to say it's unacceptable for him to take this away from you. Could you have a rota? Would he appreciate some time spent together watching tv with you?

You need to find you, have time for you and to love you. Thanks

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 21:12

Thank you. To be honest the tv is a small thing really. He likes me watching tv with him but I just hate the stuff he watches - either boxing on YouTube or horror and it sounds stupid but sometimes even just hearing it gets to me - tortured wails of people terrified in their final moments, I don’t get it Sad I like a couple of soaps, bake off ... he hates those sorts of programmes. Which is fine but it’s just stalemate.

The thing is it isn’t just DS. I mean, hypothetically, in a world where he didn’t exist, I’d still be alone and tired and dull.

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Ozziewozzie · 28/11/2018 21:13

Hi there
I completely understand how you feel alone. You have lost so much. But maybe if you could see things differently it could help.
You have raised two children all by yourself. Your daughter hasn’t ‘left’ you. She’s flourished. That’s exactly what she was supposed to do. You’ve raised her to be free, not dependant on you or you on her. She’s safe, secure and loved in the big wide world.
Your dd has found love and a place in this world from a guy who initially would have been a complete stranger to her. Now he’s welcomed her into his family.
There is no reason in this world why you can’t do the same for yourself. You could meet a complete stranger tomorrow, male or female and ‘pop’ something could click and in time you’ll feel safe, secure and belong somewhere new.
Until then, you’re still belonging where you are. Your the heart of your family. Your daughter knows you’re there when she needs you. Your son knows you’re there when he needs you. Now it’s your turn.
As kids get older they do tend to become more self absorbed sometimes. It’s all about them and their life. We old farts ( in their view) are just a reminder of them being a child recently. But they want to be independent and grown up. One day, your daughter will need you and she’ll snuggle in just as though she was 5 again. Your heart will melt and you’ll smile to yourself.
Now go get your happy path, you deserve it.
One last thing, my family suck literally. But I’ve found that sometimes complete strangers have offered me more consideration and thought or help than my own family has ever done. X

immortalmarble · 28/11/2018 21:19

I wish I could believe that ozzie but I have lost any spirit and hope I had which is why dying feels quite appealing right now. Like I say that’s not a statement I’m going to harm myself. It’s just how it feels.

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erykahb · 28/11/2018 21:32

I'm so sorry you're going through this shitty patch. I haven't any advice or useful words- just know I'm thinking of you OP. Take care of yourself Thanks

springydaff · 28/11/2018 22:02

Oh I get how you're feeling op Flowers

The key thing seems to be ds. He's supposed to have flown the nest by now,
like your daughter, but that doesn't look likely. Meanwhile you're dominated by his very male presence being, well, very dominating.

You don't have a bank of love to draw on from your history - love that matured and sustained. Now what looked to be a source of love and nurture (of a kind) is flying too far away, looking elsewhere. It's hard not to feel rejected and bereft.

Then you lost your dear cat - a source of love and undemanding solace. You think he had a miserable end, even though it was your love and selflessness that let him go.

I do so relate (if that's any help).

Slowly, slowly build your life. Each day do something that sustains you and feeds your soul, no matter how small. Later you can start building bricks towards your future - but for now look after and cherish your sweet self.

Is your gp any good? I'm a fan of ADs at the right time - that simply get the good chemicals firing again (that have lain dormant after stress that has gone on for too long and switched off those good brain chemicals).

Talking is good too. Can you find somewhere you can talk and be heard? Or maybe you need to be very quiet. I go to a silent group meditation once a week for an hour. Heaven.

Keep posting. You may find some support and identification on the Special Needs board? Ie parents who know all about the immense stress of sn children, regardless the age. Though when I'm up against it I can find others' suffering and struggles too much to bear, so it may not be for you right now.

You are raw and so tired. You can't take suffering (even in a fictional film ; your cat). Go gently with yourself dear. You will get through, as remote as that seems now. Be patient 🌸 💐 Flowers

WhoTookTheCookie · 28/11/2018 22:06

You're having such a rough time Sad

I have no practical advice, per se.
But, could you maybe carve an area out in your home, just for you?

Even if it is your bedroom. Put a TV in there, make it your sanctuary so if you need a breather or want to watch something you can do so?
It's so important that you have that space.

A big handhold for you. I'm sorry it's so hard at the moment Thanks

immortalmarble · 29/11/2018 08:09

Thank you Flowers

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saltandvinegarcrisps1 · 29/11/2018 08:25

@immortalmarble - your post is very moving and although I don't have your experiences with DS, I have felt that feeling of drifting away would be so nice (marriage breakdown) but not suicidal.

The problem is it's your DS - so hard to just wash your hands/walk away like you could if it were a partner. Have you thought about seeing if there are any support groups for people in a similar position? Even online groups? It may help to speak to others who also feel there are no solutions as @springydaff has said. I wonder if you are also struggling a but with being the adult child of an alcoholic (ACOA)- you could look into that ?

And please don't be so hard on yourself. Your post is beautifully written and it is clear you are thoughtful and intelligent.

hellsbellsmelons · 29/11/2018 08:44

Have you spoken to your GP about how you feel?
If not then please do.
Reach out for help. Counselling may help you as well.
I understand the 'no enthusiasm' thing. I'm there right now.
But I do still do a hobby twice a week. At the time I don't want to go but I get out of the house and have a good time.
Please do try to take up one of your hobbies again.
It's a great way to meet people as well.
I've made some good friends via mine.

Please also talk to your DD and tell her how you are feeling about losing her.

You are young and you can start again.

You need to put yourself out there though.
Terrifying as that is, you've got nothing to lose!

AdaArdor · 29/11/2018 08:49

I'm so sorry you are feeling this way. It is no surprise after everything you've been through.

The fact you've lost all hope is really concerning though. I know you keep saying "It's not a threat, it's just how it feels" but those sound like very real feelings of depression. If you were a friend I would advise you to go to your GP, explain what you've written in your original post, and seek either anti-depressants, or better yet, talking therapy. Even if you get put on a waiting list it's a start. In some trusts you can even self-refer for counselling via IAPT (Google IAPT + your local area). It sounds like you have a lot to talk about with someone who can support you.

Milestone birthdays/Christmas-New year can be quite scary and depressing, that's normal. But don't let this beat you. You sound so strong, lovely and warm; you've clearly raised a well-adjusted daughter and she has flourished as a PP mentioned; I'm sure you miss her but she's doing positive things with her life. I wonder if a 12-month action plan would help, to give you some control but also some time to grieve and feel how you feel and self-care. Firstly, get to your doctor and get the ball rolling there. As a PP suggested, if money allows, how about redecorating your bedroom and making it into your sanctuary? Set some ground rules with your son so that he doesn't completely take over - he has autism but sometimes he might just be being downright selfish as youngun's often are! When you are feeling stronger, commit to joining one hobby group that gets you back to art/creativity/anything you want to try AND introduces you to people that might one day become your support network. Book a cheap little holiday (a group tour if you like) somewhere you've always wanted to go. Don't be afraid to get back in touch with people you have drifted from, if you want. People will understand. Try mindfulness to help you get perspective on your situation and not catastrophies/ruminate. Do physical exercise to get your endorphins going (I am loving Yoga with Adrien on YouTube at the moment - I feel so happy and energised after her videos and she is so supportive and lovely). These are all just ideas but if you take things slowly but surely, in 12 months time things could be so different. But I really think your first step needs to be your GP or a self-refer for counselling (or private if you can afford).

Take care of yourself; you sound wonderful and it seems such a waste for you to be feeling like this and suffering alone. There is light at the end of the tunnel - you just need to start walking, one step at a time.

Ada

purpleme12 · 29/11/2018 09:14

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I can relate to parts of this. Sounds so hard xx

beerandpopcorn · 29/11/2018 09:32

ThanksThanks

springydaff · 29/11/2018 09:43

Just a thought - you might have a bit of SAD?

Not that the other stuff wouldn't get anyone down of course.

Are you up on vit D? Vit and mins in general? Flowers

Rayn · 29/11/2018 09:49

You think there is no help but there truly is. My friend has an adult autistic son and similar problems. He is ruling the house. She went to the dr and told them Everything and she got loads of help and support. Took a while as she kept going back.
Ring MInd as well and they can help you. Please get some help and support!!

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