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Can't pleasure him & other sexual issues - what can I do?

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RubyN · 24/11/2018 20:37

Dating this guy I adore for 2 months. First time we slept together he couldn't get hard & that was that (nerves I think and he is a 23 yr old virgin).

So I invite him for round 2 and he does get hard this time thankfully. It is my first time with an uncircumcised penis & I just don't seem to know what to do with it to get him to orgasm. He showed me what to do with his hand & the grip is very firm, almost uncomfortably for my arm, & he says he uses a 'specific' technique. In the end I asked him to show me what he likes but he gave up after masturbating for several minutes. He tells me he can orgasm when alone.

Now not to blow my trumpet but I know I'm pretty great at BJs, so I think this is the golden ticket as I could be firm if that's what he lies. But a minute or 2 after beginning he asks if we can talk. He tells me he was sexually abused by a classmate as a very young child & that he only 'remembered' this in therapy this year. So that's that method out of the window!

Now he treats me like a queen in bed, but I feel guilty that I'm the only one being satisfied. He says it will get better with time, but will it? If I can't pleasure him with a simple touch.

Aside from that I adore him and this was the first weekend we spent both Fri & Sat together. We are very affectionate in and out of bed. But I know full well sex is important and he has obviously gone through a hard time.

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RubyN · 25/11/2018 19:15

He is uncircumcised. Have to laugh at it being 'easier', I wish! Wink

I mean, I'd like to try again but if we still don't have lift off maybe I need to gently suggest he lays off masturbation for a bit? Given I am the first woman he's been with sexually I feel he has just got too used to his own firm grip.

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PsychedelicSheep · 25/11/2018 22:17

Yeah it probably is a bit of that.

It's been a long time since I've had an uncircumcised one but I definitely remember them being easier to handle in that way?

Different strokes for different folks I guess! Wink

RubyN · 25/11/2018 22:33

Stop rubbing it in Pyschedelic Sheep Smile

I guess that is true! This is the first time I've encountered these issues, hence why I'm seeking some support...it was quite upsetting to hear he had been abused as a child too. I still feel upset about it.

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sadiesnakes · 25/11/2018 22:35

What @Lapperoo says

Sethis · 25/11/2018 22:57

Love some of the man-hating warmth-and-empathy-of-a-thrown-knife responses we've enjoyed so far from the resident troll crowds.

Sex is supposed to be fun, enjoyable, and relaxing. Not something to obsess over and desperately try to 'fix'. The more you have voices and pressures in your head the harder it is to perform.

If he's a 23yr old virgin with the added baggage of previous abuse then he's going to have so much shit going through his head it's a wonder he can get it up at all.

Don't focus on orgasms. Focus on what feels good. Sex is not a race to the orgasm finish line - it's a forest that you can explore together. Look for clearings you're both happy to spend time in, avoid any parts of the forest either of you don't like. Get him (and yourself) to focus a lot more on specific feelings in specific places. Don't rush to the penis. Take the ear as an example: Does he like it when you kiss his ear? Nibble his ear gently? Tug on his earlobe hard with your teeth? Stick your tongue in his ear (asuming it's clean)? Does he like it when you pant in his ear with lust? So many different things you can do, that different people find highly erotic and leave others completely stone cold, just with an ear. You've also got the neck, chest, nipples, lips, fingers, wrists, inside of elbows... the list goes on. Spend half an hour making out and don't once touch his cock. Have so much heavy petting his balls are aching before you even go below the belt. Remember to ask "Is this okay?" Every now and again, and have a sense of humour about it! It's not a church service, it's totally okay to giggle or burst out laughing!

Keep talking, keep communicating, and don't pressure yourselves. It'll come in time (pun intended, sorry).

pissedonatrain · 25/11/2018 23:21

The suggestion to lay off the wanking and porn has nothing to do with him being sexually abused. Nothing. He has said he clearly can do it by himself and he seems to want to do things sexually with you.

It has to do with an entire culture of young men who have an infinite variety of wanking materials at a click and well those hormones and they end up doing it excessively and then end up using a death grip and it just becomes what they are used to and then they can't perform with a real woman because of this.

Nofap for a couple of weeks and he'll be reset in that area.

SemperIdem · 25/11/2018 23:22

I really wouldn’t mention masturbation to him.

You really like him, he clearly feels the same to have told you about his past abuse. Just take things slowly and see if you can work things out together.

NicoAndTheNiners · 25/11/2018 23:28

He might just need more time/to feel more relaxed with you.

Dh was 37yo when I met him and though he'd climaxed with previous gf when having sex he hadn't through oral or hand jobs from them. He seemed to think it would never happen for him. After a couple of months, maybe less it wasn't an issue. I think he was just more comfortable with me.

Justaboy · 25/11/2018 23:30

I think he's lucky to have found a sympathetic partner who is trying to help him RubyB, just take it easy and don't expect too much too soon.

Has he been to talk to anyone about his past abuse in recent times can you say?.

Thisnamechanger · 25/11/2018 23:35

Gobsmacked by the insensitivity on this thread. No wonder men don't like to open up. Angry

pissedonatrain · 25/11/2018 23:51

good grief. I'm not saying to bluntly tell him hey dude stop wanking to porn so much so you can actually have sex with me.

The art of seduction has been lost. Take a look at pinup stars from the 40s and 50s. They weren't swing naked on a wrecking ball but they are much more sexy and seductive.

Make it into a flirting game. Stay out of bed with him and see if he'll do it with you; only flirting looks, conversation, and touches and one of the rules is no solo play for x amount of time. Get some stockings and garter belt and a pair of black stilettos. etc etc etc.

The older gents on here will know exactly what I'm talking about.

Thankyounext · 26/11/2018 06:28

Is this the guy who told you he didn’t want a relationship? Has he changed his mind now?

I’m starting to feel sorry for him.

RubyN · 26/11/2018 18:30

Thankyounext - yes this is the same guy that said he only wanted a 'casual' relationship - I have a feeling he only said this because he was afraid I would get too close & then I would find out what happened etc.

In reality we had a close connection from the start so it was never going to be very casual. I am willing to be there for him and take it slowly if that is what he wants. Sethis I am going to take heed of what you'e said! We've done a lot of 'exploring' already but I think that should be more of the focus for now.

pissedonatrain - I'm reluctant to start a precedent with dressing up etc, ie umping through ott hoops at the beginning to make him hot for me.

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RubyN · 27/11/2018 20:22

Well I'm feeling pretty upset right now Sad

It's been over 2 days since I last heard from and I feel like something is wrong...as this is the longest I've gone without hearing from him.

Clearly things were getting more serious between us which may have freaked him out. But I've been both emotionally & physically intimate with him, so ignoring me is hurtful. I'm thinking if he doesn't get in touch by tomorrow I'll need to bite the bullet and contact him to see what's going on.

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Sethis · 27/11/2018 20:28
Hmm

He's not ignoring you if you're not messaging him?

Ignoring someone is if they are speaking, and you aren't answering or paying attention.

If neither of you are messaging each other, then it's just silence. If he's ignoring you, then by definition you are also ignoring him.

Just send him a message, now, if you want to speak to him. Just something light and with a question in it - "hey, hope you've had a decent day, how was work?" or similar.

If he reads and ignores that, THEN you might have problems.

RubyN · 27/11/2018 20:38

Sethis when he contacted me on Sunday I replied with a few messages. He has ignored them. It is unusual for him to go multiple days without checking in.

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RubyN · 27/11/2018 20:46

So yes. He has read and ignored just when we have clearly become very close. It's upsetting.

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PolkaDoting · 27/11/2018 20:51

Am I right in thinking that you have started multiple threads about this complete head fuck of a man?

If you are starting multiple threads about a man you have known a matter of weeks that is a very bad sign.

RubyN · 27/11/2018 21:03

Well I have also had some issues with anxiety over the past year, which doesn't help.

Obviously things got intense between us sexually and he was triggered, therefore having to tell me what happened to him as a child. The only thing I can think is that he's having a lot of emotions about that but I don't know. He expressed wanting to continue with the relationship and gave no indication he was about to bow out.

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justtryingtodoitright · 27/11/2018 21:41

You post an awful lot OP- do you have anyone to talk to IRL??

RubyN · 27/11/2018 21:46

Not about this topic (especially the child abuse part, as it is his business).

I moved abroad earlier this year, so I suppose I do miss having my best friends to talk to. Regardless I probably wouldn't be too open with them about sexual things in a relationship.

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PolkaDoting · 27/11/2018 23:10

I know what you mean about needing someone to talk to sometimes, but this guy has given you nothing but angst right from the very start - even down to the fact that you had to ask him out. He is more trouble than he is worth, you will not end up with a happy and easy relationship with this guy.

prawnsword · 27/11/2018 23:47

Confused why an uncut penis would make a blowjob difficult... but that sounds like death grip and the only solution is if he stops wanking altogether until his brain recalibrates to be more sensitive to regular touch. Death grip sufferers tend to be more boring pumpers in bed who lack rhythm. Is he actually any good in the sack or do you have to stop him after while when you’re maxed out ?

RubyN · 27/11/2018 23:58

no it doesn't. I had to stop the BJ because he was abused as a child and it triggered him! He is pretty sensual and always gives me the 'o' yes...

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