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Mental and Emotionally Abusive Relationship - Tell me there is light at the end of the tunnel

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ShiningStar1990 · 23/11/2018 20:13

Hi everyone. I've recently joined Mumsnet from the advice of my counsellor. I'm hoping to find people who are or have been in my situation or anyone who can provide advice and support. I don't even know where to start with my story but I have one and I don't know when or what the ending will be. I have recently come out of a Mentally and Emotionally Abusive four year relationship. The man in question is the father to my beautiful one year old daughter.
I wont go too much into the story as it's a long one but I have endured years of gas lighting, control, blaming me for issues in his life nothing was his fault, chipping away at my self esteem, making me question my own sanity, him cheating and making me think it is all in my head, I'm apparently paranoid and anxious, he would make me feel guilty after arguments and I would blame myself, ignoring me for days on end after arguments to hurt me further, split up with me get back with me. Once our daughter was born things only got worse, the cheating became more obvious, constant sex and dating websites, financial control, he wouldn't let me have money, isolating me from my friends and family, wanting to know my whereabouts all the time, manipulating behaviour, he would make me feel self conscious about my weight, I am a petite 5ft2 but he made me think I wasn't womanly enough, not a big enough bum or curvy enough (the women he would 'speak' to behind my back were all larger curvy size 16+ women). The relationship started to get violent, he grabbed me and dragged me across the room, threw my phone across the room and put a hole in the living room door. He treated me like his slave, I looked after our daughter myself, done all the house work, cooking, cleaning etc, if I was late home and tea wasn't ready he would lose it and ignore me for days.
Enough was enough, I didn't want my daughter growing up to one day think this was ok, that it is ok for men to treat women that way. Thankfully in June this year I was strong enough to say enough was enough and packed his bags and chucked them on his Mothers door step when he was staying at her house for the night, this took months of plucking up the courage. Since June he has made my life a living hell. I forgot to say but the house we lived in together is his Dads rented spare house, soooo I live in the house still renting off of his Dad and he lives with his Mum. This situation IS NOT ideal. His whole family are controlling me, either through our daughter or through the house, I feel trapped, I cant afford to move out as the rent here is so cheap, I have asked the council for help to find another home but they have said no because I have a roof over my head. I am put down about my parenting skills, my looks, financially he is now refusing to pay maintenance, I had builders come in the house and they took my spare key and now his family wont give it back to me. In the last 8 months my weight has plummeted to 6st12 I lost 3 stone in that space of time. My anxiety is through the roof, I am being told by him he is taking me to court and I will have my daughter taken away from me, under what circumstances I have no idea but my anxiety is irrational and I start to believe this could happen, I don't sleep very well, tossing and turning all night, scared about what crazy ass move he is going to make next to control and abuse me. Half the time I am questioning if it is all me and if I am the crazy one like he has made out to everyone I am. With all of this going on I work part time and try and give my daughter the best and most normal upbringing, I dote on her and do not want her affected by this man. We have such a great bond, she is a happy smiley little girl. Some days my mental health is better than others, it isn't all doom and gloom, I'm quite a strong person at keeping my stuff together, from the outside you'd have no idea I was feeling so lost and alone but on the inside I feel like I am screaming and throwing myself about and I am trapped. Please someone tell me there is an ending to this, I can not handle this man for another 17 years.
With the help of my counsellor we are working on undoing all of the conditioning I have had over the past 4 years, helping me to not let him control, manipulate, mentally or emotionally abuse me any longer, she is helping me to find the person I once was before I met him. I am on the waiting list for the Freedom Programme which I should hopefully be attending within the next 2 months. I just really need people to talk to who have been or are in my situation, someone to tell me I am not crazy lol. I need to know people have come through this type of abuse and that things do get better and do get easier.

Thank you so much to reading xx

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BudgieBalls · 24/11/2018 08:51

Hi, I don't really have any advice, apart from your living arrangements are not ideal, if you could find somewhere else to live i think that would take a lot of the stress away. And apply for cms.

Other than that just giving you a bump, I'm sure someone more knowledgeable will be along soon.

RandomMess · 24/11/2018 08:56

I would ask the refuge for help you need to leave that house as a priority.

Do you have family or friends you could go stay with?

Do you have s written contract with your "landlord"

PurpleWithRed · 24/11/2018 08:57

I haven't been in a situation as bad as yours but I do know how difficult it can be to break up from an emotionally and financially abusive person.

By living in his father's property you are making it a bit easier for them to control you. I hope someone will come along who knows how to help you escape from that - women's aid/citizen's advice? In the meantime Flowers you have done brilliantly to get this far, stick with the counselling, speak to women's aid and come back here for support whenever you need a bit of an emotional boost.

MrsMoastyToasty · 24/11/2018 09:00

Who is paying the rent? You or your ex?

ShiningStar1990 · 24/11/2018 09:07

Thank you so much everyone for replying.
I've been told by the council if I leave the house on my own will I will not get any help with finding somewhere else to live. I'm trying to stick it out at the moment whilst I'm waiting for help from the freedom programme.

I pay the rent at the property, my ex doesn't pay any money at the moment, he won't help towards child support so I have contacted the CSA who will hopefully help me to get some money.

I just don't know how much longer I can put up with this anymore. I've recently adjusted the access he has with our daughter to every other weekend, he was originally having her once a night every weekend and 1 night in the week but with her also being with a childminder she has become very unsettled with being back and forth between houses about 7 times a week so I'm wanting to see if being at her Dads every other weekend all weekend will help her feel more settled. He has lost it over that decision, he is collecting her this morning at 11am and I am dreading seeing him. Thank you all for your help and advice.
I really feel that leaving this house and finding a new home for me and my daughter will help me feel more free and less controlled. I think I'll contact womens aid.

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BudgieBalls · 24/11/2018 09:12

He's probably going to try and argue with you when he sees you, just don't give him an emotional response as it's what he wants.

Nosugarcoating · 24/11/2018 09:17

Get in touch with Womans aid. They're are extremely helpful. They helped me get away from a mentally abusive relationship. They might be able to help with your housing situation. You really need to work towards getting out of there ASAP

Counselling will help you massively to realise it's not you it's him. Bringing you back to the person you were. Make you stronger for yourself & your baby.

I have been there it's so hard & having a child with this man means there is no real escape totally from him.

My best advice I can give you is....the threats he throws at you are ONLY WORDS. You control how much power they have over you!!!!!! Take the control back, you don't have to have a reactive response to everything he says. Ignore him, when he isn't getting the response back he will get bored!!
He wants to control you & make you react to all the awful things he says to you.
Don't give him that power. Take the power back.
Stay strong, it will get better you will be confident, happy once again.

I am 5 years on, after being homeless with my 7month old. I am celebrating my 4th Christmas is my rented home!!!
Family & friends have been a massive support to me.

Just keep in your mind that you want a better life for your little girl & for yourself. You both deserve not to be living in fear of anyone.

ShiningStar1990 · 24/11/2018 09:36

I will get in touch with woman's aid on Monday, thank you, I wasn't aware they could possibly help me.
I know once I am out of this house I will feel a bit better, it's just thag next step towards feeling less controlled.

The mental and emotional abuse is awful, I just can't ever get away from him. I'm worried he will try and control our daughter once she is older and turn her against me. I think the counselling in time will help me to be much stronger.

I appreciate everyone's advice so much. I will keep you all updated with how I get on with the house situation.

Does anyone know what rights I have as a tenant with refusing to allow someone in the property. The hall way and utility room are due to be plastered soon then it will need painting. I know his Dad is wanting my ex to paint the house but I can't have him in my house, can I say no I don't want him painting it and coming in or do I have no say? X

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GreatStuffWorks · 24/11/2018 09:51

Contact shelter for your rights as a tenant. And you could call women's aid today. Often you can't get an answer but do leave a message as they will always call you back.

RandomMess · 24/11/2018 10:28

I think you do have the right to refuse the LL doing non emergency work on the property. Hopefully he will serve you notice then you can get assistance from the council to be rehoused.

springydaff · 24/11/2018 11:52

Try Women's Aid national helpline 0808 2000 247. Call at night/overnight as lines are busy during the day.

Also try your local Women's Aid on Monday morning if you're unable to get through on the helpline.

They will help you with all practicalities legal, financial, housing etc ; as well as provide comprehensive emotional support.

Keep going. Many of us got away from relationships like this. Thank God for Women's Aid is what I say 💐

springydaff · 24/11/2018 11:57

As pp said, you will get additional advice from Shelter re your accommodation rights.

Keep a diary of his behaviour re securing supervised access in future. Men like this are dangerous for our children.

ShiningStar1990 · 24/11/2018 12:00

Thank you so much for the link.
It's so nice to hear that people have got through this.
I know if my housing situation changed I would feel better as I wouldn't feel so controlled and trapped. Sadly it's so expensive to rent now a days so I'm on a budget. Private landlords are really hard to come by as well and agency's charge so much even before you move in.

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weleasewoderick22 · 24/11/2018 12:34

Nothing to add to the excellent advice on here, except to say I've been through this too and I'm in a much better place now.

Keep posting if it helps & the freedom programme is excellent.

Thanks for you and your daughter. I'll be thinking of you.

ShiningStar1990 · 24/11/2018 12:42

How long did it take for things to start getting better for you? I know everyone's different.
I'm looking forward to going on the freedom programme, I need to speak to people who have and are going through the same thing, I need to hear I'm not going mad and these things aren't my fault.
Thank you Smile

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springydaff · 24/11/2018 13:01

Women's Aid will smooth the way to new accommodation eg you can get low cost housing and help with deposit if necessary. Also Shelter will give you appropriate advice and support.

You are not trapped in that house. There is a way out, there is hope Flowers

springydaff · 24/11/2018 13:05

You are not mad. This is not your fault.

While you're waiting for the freedom programme read Lundy Bancroft's 'why Does He Do That?'. Cheap on amazon or order it at the library.

You can also read Pat Craven's Living With The Dominator. This is the book the Freedom Programme is based on. You'll recognise a lot there Flowers

weleasewoderick22 · 24/11/2018 13:13

I'll be honest, it took a few years to get out of that tangle of emotions that he put me in. I was a bag of nerves at everything I did or said because I had been so controlled to serve him and his needs. We have a ds together and he did a number on him too, he had counselling with CAHMS but he's still very angry with his dad even though we are now nc.

The freedom programme is excellent and I finally understood that it wasn't my fault, but 10 years on I still won't have a relationship because I don't trust men.

Please don't be like me, have faith that you and you dd will move on from this and him. As pp have said, you need to sort your living arrangements ( I was lucky, it's my house so that wasn't an issue. He tried to get me to give up my house and move into his dad's with him thus further isolating me. I refused)

There's loads of help out there, more so than when I was in that position. Utilise it all and you will get there.

Take care and good luck.

ShiningStar1990 · 24/11/2018 17:41

Thank you both for your advice. I will definetly look into the books, I need to understand why he's like the way he is.

I'm really hopeful one day I will meet someone who won't be like him. At the moment though obviously I need to be on my own.
I think this'll take a few years for me to be myself again, I really miss the old me. I'm just concentrating on getting better and on my daughter.

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