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I am the scapegoat

17 replies

Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 06:37

And god I am tired of it. I am tired of it affecting me on and on and on and years and years later I am tired of small things making me realise how much of a scapegoat I am and how little I matter.

I’m not strong enough to buck the whole thing up in the air and properly stand up to them. I should. Two friends independently have said the same thing about something that is happening and I trust their judgement. But I can’t.

There is really no point to this post. I’m just tired and sad.

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rainbowquack · 23/11/2018 06:38

Context?

Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 06:39

The context is my whole life. From I was born right up to now everything is my fault. I am unvalued.

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Zoflorabore · 23/11/2018 06:41

Is this anything to do with the other thread where the op is saying she treats her eldest dd as a scapegoat?

Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 06:44

Not really. Only in as much as it prompted me to start this.

I’ve been the scapegoat all my life and I’m tired of it. I’m not strong enough to change how I react. To do what needs to be done to stand up for myself and stop it. God I’m just so tired and so sad just so so sad.

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pusspuss9 · 23/11/2018 06:47

innocent I don't know what to say but I'm holding your hand right now until you feel better. Sending you flowers and hugs and support to hang in there.

rainbowquack · 23/11/2018 06:49

I'm sorry you are feeling so low.
Could you start over?

springydaff · 23/11/2018 06:51

I hear you.

ime there is nothing you can do or say to stop them. They will NEVER see what they're doing, regardless what you do or say.

They are sick sick sick people. ime I cut them off. Yes it's hard but not a patch on how hard it was to be the constant butt of their bullying and neglect.

There's not much out there for scapegoats imo. Probably because we're all so poleaxed trying to recover, no-one has the energy or space (or confidence?) to write a book.

Scapegoats unite. IT'S NOT YOUR FAULT Flowers

Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 06:53

I can’t change it. Which is me, not them. I can’t because it would induce the terrible narc rage and I’m just not able for that. Which is pathetic.

I’m low contact but events are conspiring to make me have to have more contact than usual. And that is giving them the chance to reinforce the old stereotypes. But I’m not that person any more.

Strange conversation with golden child yesterday too which made me realise just how little I was valued and how, even as an adult, I was unimportant.

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Zoflorabore · 23/11/2018 07:24

I hear you op. I feel like that too. It's shit.

Rise above any negativity. I've been doing mindfulness which has been a great help.

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Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 07:52

thanks for that helpful and supportive post.

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JohnMcCainsDeathStare · 23/11/2018 08:00

Do you value yourself? I am sure there are many things in your life you should be justifiably proud of. Also, have a look at people you know - there might be people, even unexpected ones who have been there for you. If no-one has anything useful or kind to offer -don't feel bad about detacting.

Innocentconglomeration · 23/11/2018 08:05

I do value myself. I am credibly proud of my achievements. My own kids and my friends are amazing.

As I said events are such that I have to have more contact than I am comfortable with and it’s thrown me.

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Aussiebean · 23/11/2018 08:08

You are right that it will never change. But wrong in who does the changing.

They will never change. The golden child might... but rare... so probably unlikely.

What can change is you, and you have already mentioned that that is starting.

What you can change is how you see yourself and the hownthat new self deals with them.

Have you looked at the grey rock technique? That will give them less ammunition to beat you with.

Get a counsellor who knows about toxic families and aren’t all for staying in contact at all costs.

Start building a sense of self and a life as detached as possible from them. They will hate it but you will be in a state of zero caring.

Many scapegoats who see the dynamic and work hard on themselves actually can have a better life away from their families.

I think you have taken the first steps just by articulating it here. You can go further.

Just don’t believe that this is all you get.

Silkie2 · 23/11/2018 08:14

The fact that you have built your own lovely family and friends means you are strong. It's them that are not strong as they cannot build normal relationships, it's all about anger and diminishing others from the sound of it.
Be proud of what you have made of your life. It is a success. They are an unfortunate blip that comes up occasionally, don't let it seem more powerful than it is.

Bitrustyandbusty · 23/11/2018 08:48

This is my life too. In my 40s and it still affects me. People can sense the vulnerability a mile off, many choose to exploit that, and so it affects everything. Friendships, work, partnerships, casual encounters, even down to who moves out of the way first when passing people in the street! It’s in the body language, I think, and the vibes we give off.

Over the years I have learned to be less tolerant of such exploitation of my weak points and triggers. Have said a harsh but fair goodbye to a couple of very long standing friendships, and backed away from some more recent ones. Those friendships that I really do value are, where necessary, being eased towards healthier boundaries. Newer ones are already built on those new, stronger, healthier foundations.

Think about the ‘false beliefs’ that you were trained into. And get them out of your brain, replace them with new, true ones. I choose to call out and challenge my family of origin every time they make a ridiculous assertion or judgement, it is simply intolerable to me. They will sadly never change, and so it is wearing, but it makes me feel better. And I see less of them as the years pass, as I fully appreciate now the emotional toll.

It saddens me too that I shall forever have to be on my guard, out in the world. It is indeed tiring. However, what is the alternative? I think, to some degree, we scapegoats are blessed. Because we can see what others often do not. I can spot a faker, bitch or taker a country mile away now, and act accordingly.

Stay strong. You got this.

springydaff · 23/11/2018 21:13

Ah really great post busty 🌸

I'd like to take exception with this though :
don't let it seem more powerful than it is

It IS powerful. Being systematically destroyed from the year dot by those who are meant to love you is extraordinarily damaging - decimating. It is huge, it really is.

That's not to say we can't go on, with enormous effort, to live fulfilled lives. But it's not a case of willpower deciding to not 'let it' cause too much damage. Too late. The damage is immense and it's a life's work to reverse it.

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