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How to help my mum help herself

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PerverseConverse · 20/11/2018 13:07

Some details changed rather than name changing.

My mum is nearly 78, in good health, no dementia, no depression, but recovering from a broken foot after tripping in the summer. She has a history of falls spanning 15 years or so. Foot is fully healed and although a bit stiff and painful she's doing ok on it. Not using a stick or any other walking aid. However she's still not back to driving and is relying on others for shopping, transport to appointments, routine errands etc. She's about a mile from the shops but involves a big hill that has pavements in very poor condition. There's a local bus which she'd have to walk ten mins to get to the stop.

She's been pretty much housebound for 3 and a half months although a family member has taken her shopping a handful of times and a friend takes her to an exercise class.

I'm finding she's becoming more and more apathetic over things and I'm stuck as how to help her out of it.

For example there's been couple of birthdays and anniversaries in the past week. She got taken to the shops to get the cards but then didn't get stamps so had to ask a neighbour to post them. Knowing she'd need more than one stamp she didn't think to get a book of them and was then stuck again for the next card so it was late.

She was invited out to a birthday lunch (a couple of days after the actual birthday itself) last week but instead of thinking great she was more annoyed that the friend hadn't come round to see her beforehand so that she could give her the card and present. That made her complain that she couldn't get the card posted in time as though it was the friends fault for not seeing her earlier.

She's like this most of the time with her approach to things and it's really getting me down. Instead of a positive approach and problem solving she's tending to leave things up to others to sort out for her. Her siblings tended to look upon her as "poor converses mum" and this annoyed the hell out of her as she was and is quite capable.

If I say anything she says I'm not helping her by pointing it out and making her feel worse and like she's not capable of doing anything. That frustrates me more as my point is that she's perfectly capable of doing these things and organising her own life but relies on others to help her out.

She'll ask me for telephone numbers, shop opening hours etc all of which she can access via google just as easily as I can. I've shown her several times how to do this. Runs out of milk or bread then asks me to get her some and take it there. That would take me about 90 minutes to do so isn't a small ask. She asks me because she doesn't like asking the neighbours that drive even though they've offered to help.

She'll complain no one rings her or goes to see her but doesn't ring people herself or go to see them. It's as though she doesn't get that it's a two way street and she needs to be proactive.

When she broke her foot I was there every day helping her shower, doing all her cleaning, shopping, washing, and cooking. Attending to any admin stuff that needed doing and whatever else she needed. I don't drive, am a single mum to 3 children and live a good mile and a half away. My home life suffered as I was at her house for 5 to 8 hours a day, every day, the children were stressed by the changes to routine and it was a difficult time. We couldn't get any carers for the times she needed them after the first week so that was a no go. It was hard work but she's my mum and I happily helped her and no one else could would.

This fall has obviously knocked her confidence but she was like this before, just not as much. How can I help her to help herself more and be less reliant on others?

I feel really disloyal and mean writing this but it's getting me down and I don't know how to help her.

OP posts:
Singlenotsingle · 20/11/2018 18:35

She's probably a bit lonely and likes the company, not really taking on board that you're a busy woman with other priorities.
Is she involved with the Church at all? Or the WI? They would have people available who would be happy to knock on her door and offer help, and she'd also get a few more friends that way.

Does she need some physio for the foot?

MadisonMontgomery · 20/11/2018 18:42

I second the suggestion to get her a mobility scooter so she can get out and about herself. Then I think you need to be a bit cruel to be kind - if you run around after her she will do less and less and become more isolated. Don’t answer the phone to her all the time, tell her she will have to do things herself, that you are busy - and if she says she isn’t able tell her she then isn’t able to look after herself and will need to go into a home.

Rudgie47 · 20/11/2018 18:43

I'd also say do her a big online shop and find out about local elderly support services. Theres drop in where I am and home visits etc from volunteers.
Wheres the rest of the family? What are they doing to help your Mum and you out?

juneau · 20/11/2018 18:44

This is learned helplessness OP (Google it, if you've never heard of it), and it's not uncommon in older people after a spell of poor health. Basically, they need to get their confidence back, but she's never going to do this if you keep running over there and doing everything for her.

As you say that she's now in good health and has no signs of dementia, etc, I would get a card with the phone number of a local taxi firm and stick it by her phone. Then next time she asks you to get milk or bread or stamps or some other such thing remind her that she doesn't like being treated like she's helpless and encourage her to either call a taxi to take her, or call a neighbour. You're going to need to be firm and consistent though, as she's clearly got used to relying on you recently. It wouldn't hurt too to remind her that you're a single parent with three DC who doesn't drive. Remind her that she's now better and that it's time she started to get her independence back. Maybe she is a bit depressed? I suspect though that if she is it's because she's become so helpless and dependent. The best you can do is to keep encouraging her to do things for herself, to be organised with making her shopping list each week so she doesn't forget stuff, and to be prepared to run her own errands.

category12 · 20/11/2018 18:50

You do have an extra responsibility in her.

Are there any groups for her age group around? I'm thinking day-trip type /activity ones. Perhaps try Age UK and see what local community groups there are.

cptartapp · 20/11/2018 19:32

This will only get worse as she gets older. She likely to become more not less dependant. She's not paying to currently run a car so she'll have to use taxis. What about a cleaner, Gardner, home help etc. Elderly people (even those that can well afford) often don't like to pay for help but are quite happy for family to run themselves ragged. My DM ended up on antidepressants and BP medication jumping to my GM demands. Be very careful, you're setting quite a precedent going forward, and don't feel mean, her wants do not trump yours.
I suspect she's lonely too, maybe contact Age Concern for suggestions about this.
Don't get her asking neighbours however to get involved, that's highy unfair on them long term.

TheEndofIt · 20/11/2018 20:16

My mum is 76 a bit like this too; she is a carer for my dad who has dementia & is simply overwhelmed.

She has a few health issues & is really struggling with what I assume is a taste of her own mortality.

I don't live nearby & have 2 young kids, so I try to support her from afar.

She has a cleaner, gardener & I have set her up for Asda home deliveries, plus given her the details of Wiltshire farm foods so she has something in the freezer if needs be.

Have you suggested sheltered housing? Or buying in private carers? A social work assessment? These might be options for her.

PerverseConverse · 20/11/2018 21:02

Thanks for all the suggestions.

At the risk of repeating myself, she is fully independent. She can drive and has a car but due to her foot still being stiff and painful she's not back to driving yet.

She does a weekly energetic fitness class so I think social services would laugh if I requested an assessment. Same for a mobility scooter, or carers.

She does all her own cleaning and washing. She does have a gardener for the harder job but is still moving the lawn herself and weeding, planting and the like. Well, up until we broke her foot that is.

It's just the little things, the organisation, the reliance on someone else doing it because it's difficult for her until she can drive again.

I could do a shop online for her but probably only once a month as it's just her. She buys locally where possible for things like the butchers and they do deliver which is good. Not sure if the fish man delivers but will find out. She doesn't buy much when we do the weekly shop so at most I think it would be every three weeks. I'll suggest it to her. Our weekly shop is our weekly get together to get the food and have a look round some other shops at the retail park and maybe get lunch. We both enjoy it and are both reluctant to switch to online unless necessary. Obviously the past few months that's what I've been doing and have done hers online too (shared a delivery and then divided it up).

I think the mortality/getting older/not able to do so much is preying on her mind and it is on mine too and we are both fighting against that certainty. For the time being though, she's fine, she just needs a boost of confidence.

I'll insist she gets extra milk and a book of stamps and see if she'll get out and about more. She's had 3 major injuries now in as many years and it's always been me that's cared for her. The last one was the worst one as she couldn't do anything for 7 weeks and relied on me for nearly everything.

I certainly don't want to get into the habit of reminding her about events or getting things for her without her asking or basically taking on any more of a caring role. She can do it herself, she just needs to actually do it. The more that's done for her, the more dependent she'll be.

OP posts:
User02 · 21/11/2018 02:11

Hi OP I am a bit younger than your DM but I had a period where every thing that could go wrong did go wrong. Other people died, I kept getting ill, now permanently ill and I lost confidence.

For other reasons someone was constantly criticising me. More loss of confidence. I am glad that your DM has such a supportive daughter.
Could I suggest that you maybe take your DM with you on shopping trips and something like a snack out at a local café. It does not have to be a big outing. She is possibly scared of walking to the local shop and her leg being too sore to get back. She needs to see for herself what she can do.

It is a lot harder to make a move like asking a friend or neighbour to go shopping or visit a museum when you are older. It is now also going into winter and the cold and dark will not help DM to go out and about. She will also be more worried about another fall and break happening again. She may not want to see herself losing ability and rather than try to do things she sits in the house and hides. This also leads to her Loneliness.
As a PP said where are other family members? Can you see if some others will visit her or arrange to go out with her?

Yamaaann12 · 21/11/2018 18:31

Can she book some driving lessons. Can your DM get milk, bread delivered by milk man or Milk and more. What would DM do if you lived a long distance away. It sounds like she has lost confidence

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