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Counter-dependency - survival tips..?

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Minionmomma · 18/11/2018 08:56

Morning all. So after years of ups and downs and struggles, lots of lovely times too, but never feeling as though I’m a priority for my DH and a sense that he keeps me at arms length, I recently came across the term ‘counter dependency’. This explains my DH to a T:

“Difficulty being close to others;
A strong need to be right—all the time;
Self-centered and egotistical;
A resistance or refusal to ask for help;
Expects perfection in self and others;
Extreme discomfort appearing weak or vulnerable;
Has difficulty relaxing and is addicted to activities like work or exercise.”

It’s been quite a revelation for me and helped me to start seeing things from a different perspective. He’s basically quite a damaged individual and has difficulty expressing and receiving intimacy.

We’ve started marriage counselling but I’m concerned that his counter dependency traits are a lot more serious than he or the counsellor might acknowledge. Has anyone been through similar? Any survival tips please? I am committed to my marriage and my family and want to work through this but it is so hard when I’m constantly pushed away, not a priority and made to feel as though I’m being melodramatic. Thanks in advance.

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NotTheFordType · 18/11/2018 09:07

Well, never heard of this but now I have an official term for "a total wanker".

Is there a reason why you're committed to your marriage? Not just marriage in general, the one you've got.

AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/11/2018 09:16

What are you getting out of this relationship now?. What is in this for you?. Are your vows more important here that your own self and children?.

My advice is to save your own self, he has and will simply continue to drag you as his codependent partner down with him. This is who he is and he is not going to change.

I cannot see what the point of joint counselling is at all here. he will likely dominate any sessions and make it all about him, you won't have any say.

Minionmomma · 18/11/2018 09:19

Yeah. It’s like dealing with an absolute wanker at times.

Why am I committed to my marriage? Well we have a LOT to be grateful for and that includes our children.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/11/2018 09:24

That does not explain why you are committed to your marriage. Also you use the word "we" rather than "I".

You seem anyway far more invested in this marriage than he ever has been (I remember some of your previous posts re him), why is that?.

Minionmomma · 18/11/2018 09:26

Really? This is my concern... do you speak from experience? From the reading I’ve been doing, counter dependence is a relatively recent ‘thing’ in the counselling/therapy field... I may be wrong.

In fairness, DH has been open in counselling about how he’d developed avoidant ways of dealing with emotions as a kid. I do think there is hope.

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Minionmomma · 18/11/2018 09:33

The counter dependence thing i came across in recent weeks. Prior to that I thought I was my DH was simply a narcissist. But, no, I see how he is with our DC and I know he’s capable of being warm and loving and he is like that with me at times too. But not frequently.

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 18/11/2018 09:40

What does he think of marriage counselling?.

Do you still think he is a narcissist at heart?.

So he is giving them mixed messages. It is harmful to them being overtly loving with them whilst at the same time showing you as their mother far less affection. If he is a narcissist is he really using his children here as narcissistic supply?.

On a much wider level what are you both teaching your children about relationships here?.

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