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Is this a bit entitled? A bit patronising? A turn off?

20 replies

SquashSqueezeSquash · 11/11/2018 19:22

Not really looking for a hand to hold, I think I’ve got this. And not looking for advice, as I’ve already walked away from the situation and won’t be going back. But interested to hear your opinions all the same.

So a few months ago I had a little breather in my life, found myself in between jobs, relationships, homes… (I don’t want to be too specific) and had some well deserved freedom and time off. To fill my free time I agreed meet up with a guy who also had some time to spare that week. It’s not quite a date as we arranged to meet to do something together. Let’s say we went to play squash or something like that. As it was in the daytime rather than the evening and we met up to do something specific, it wasn’t really a date as such. But as we both knew the other person single there was perhaps a little tension in the air, not entirely unwelcome on my part to be fair. The day went well, and we then grabbed a meal afterwards, then some drinks… and at some point that evening we were back at mine having sex. I was perfectly happy with this, I am no angel, and honestly this was the perfect time in my life for a little adventure. No regrets there.
Now, from what I was being told that evening I had no reason to worry about hurting his feelings, my date was about 5-6 months out of a long committed relationship, wasn’t looking for a new one, wanted to remain independent bla bla… I was perfectly fine with this too given my own circumstances at the time. What I was maybe less OK with was his little hints of having been a bit of a player since he broke up with his ex, a bit like, “oh I get up to this stuff all the time nowadays, he he”. But as I wasn’t really expecting it to turn into a relationship, and I honestly was in no position to judge, so I just let those remarks pass without comment. And on the whole I get that the overall sentiment here on MN, and among my circle of friends for that matter, is to not judge someone for their past sexual history – to which I agree or course.

Now, during that week this date becomes a little fling rather than a ONS, including a couple more perfectly nice dates, during which Mr. Independent keeps up the care-free attitude and among other things mentions other recent dates and adventures he has had been since becoming single.

But of course the inevitable happens and my fling starts hinting that he has got the feels and sees something more in me, that we should start seeing each other as a couple. This post is not about me asking my fellow mumsnetters whether he is a keeper, because he just isn’t and I won’t pursue anything in any case. But it’s more that I find it so cheeky of him think it is OK to start a (supposed) relationship by clearly relating to me that I am just one of many recent conquests, but then somehow discover that I’ve got the potential to be more than that. Almost a bit patronising if anyone gets my drift? Like, “oh, it turns out you’re a keeper after all. Who would have thought. I used to be such a stud, but you’ve calmed me down babe.”

I get the feeling that most many at MN are OK with their relationships being open in the first few weeks (months?) and that one should not get too hung up on their partner’s adventures with other people before you started dating, even if it is quite recently before you hooked up. And again I am no angel myself, but at least I wouldn't talk about these things out loud in the bedroom with a new partner – regardless whether I see him as someone for the short term or the long term. But do I have anyone with me in thinking that this attitude is really off putting, even a deal breaker?

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Ikeameatballs · 11/11/2018 19:25

I think that you’re overthinking it.

AnyFucker · 11/11/2018 19:28

He sounds like a tosser

I hope the sex was good though

Next !

mimibunz · 11/11/2018 19:29

Sounds to me like he could have been making it up? Is it possible that he was trying to impress you, although in a ridiculous way? Otherwise, he’s a twat.

CircleofWillis · 11/11/2018 19:35

It could be that he is intrigued and a bit put out that you are able to be emotionally detached. He could have been attempting to ward you off becoming attached with his boasting about his sexual escapades and is now annoyed that you seen to be resisting his charms so efficiently.
He is a dick for boasting about his other women (real or fake).

ahYerWill · 11/11/2018 19:36

Either he's insecure/immature and bragging to make himself feel good. Or it's a badly executed bit of negging, where he's trying to convince you that he's some kind of prize to be fought for. definite hard pass from me...

NotANotMan · 11/11/2018 19:40

I think you're being a bit weird
I don't see a problem with starting a casual thing and developing feelings at a later point. That seems very sensible to me.

HereIgoagainxx · 11/11/2018 19:41

He's clearly immature. Forget it and him.

GlasgowWorrier · 11/11/2018 19:57

I think you're overthinking it too. It sounds as if you were both giving off strong 'this is just for fun' signals in the beginning. He got to know you better and realised there could be more to it, so was testing the waters.

I'd have been a bit Hmm at the comments about his revolving bedroom door but don't think I'd have read his later interest as some sort of, '.... but you've changed all that!' ploy. Just someone who's out of a long committed relationship working out dating again.

NotTheFordType · 11/11/2018 20:04

Hmm. You're the person who spent time with him, so you're in the best position to judge. But his comments could either come off as general chat, or they could be a subtle form of negging. You're not going to get into a relationship with him anyway, so it's kind of irrelevant, but if you feel he was trying to undermine your confidence in order to get an "in" then trust your gut feeling.

mogratpineapple · 11/11/2018 20:04

Yes I think he sounds immature and/or insecure and he's trying to kind of impress you with what a stud he is and he doesn't need you for anything emotional/relationship.

I would find it a turn off if he was mentioning other women etc. Just not cool in the same way as other types of boasting is.

Antigon · 11/11/2018 20:50

What I was maybe less OK with was his little hints of having been a bit of a player since he broke up with his ex, a bit like, “oh I get up to this stuff all the time nowadays, he he”.

Did he say this soon after the sex? He's trying to seem like a Casanova but just comes across as crass.

Dump.

lizzie1970a · 11/11/2018 21:09

Yes, he's crass. Treated you like one of his mates telling you that as if you'd find it funny. On a par, to me, of saying things to you like ooh, I fancy her etc about women when you're together. How men think that ever goes down well I don't know. I wouldn't want to see him again as he's not in touch with what's sensitive or appropriate at all.

cheesemongery · 11/11/2018 21:13

You both sound like hard work.

Cynara · 11/11/2018 21:15

Crass and immature. I wouldn't bother pursuing this, he sounds like a bit of a tosser.

cheesemongery · 11/11/2018 21:17

why do you mention the sentiment and feeling you get from other MN with regards to what is considered fine and what is not?

Are you writing an article? Or do you generally gauge your life on what people on the internet think?

SquashSqueezeSquash · 11/11/2018 21:18

Thanks for all replies so far, greatly appreciated.
Just to clarify yet again, I am not looking advice regarding that particular person. He's definitely a goner.

I am more interested in hearing whether me finding this a turn off is intolerant, uptight, or unusual in any way.

Let's say that the majority of you had replied with posts such as; "oh, my DH was like that in the beginning, actually I was too, but now we've been together for 15 wonderful years", then I guess I would have needed to work on myself a bit more perhaps.

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Nitpickpicnic · 11/11/2018 21:23

I like a bit of ‘smooth’ in my partners, this guy wouldn’t pass the test.

There’s no reason you can’t be sexually active and still be a gentleman.
Most of the ‘proper players’ I know would never dream of casually mentioning other partners. It’s not clever or useful. They ‘love the one they’re with’ and have enough respect to live in that moment rather than referencing the past or the future.

Anyone who boasts about their sexual ‘numbers’ is usually suffering terminal self-esteem problems, which is a turn-off.

TatianaLarina · 11/11/2018 21:31

I’m surprised you have to ask if he’s a twat, of course he’s a twat.

Butternutsquashy · 11/11/2018 21:32

I actually think he liked you from the beginning but was worried about being rejected so acted all like you were just another notch on the bed post. You seemed to make it clear from the onset it was just a casual sex thing so he’s gone along with it.

Now you’ve been seeing each other more he thinks he may have a chance with you so is trying to tell you he’s interested.

If anything he just sounds shy and insecure to me. Players don’t usually act like this.

Notacluewhatthisis · 11/11/2018 21:49

Me and Dp were friends with benefits.

Casual relationship and the got serious. I am so confused by your post.

How is entitled to see someone casual and the start to develop feelings, then test the waters?

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