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Rage Against the DH

100 replies

MiddleAgeDaze · 08/11/2018 21:54

I’m early fifties, going through menopause. I’ve been feeling very angry for a while now, and most of it is directed at my DH. The anger has been there for a long time, simmering away, and now it’s coming to the boil and I can’t seem to dial it back again.

I don’t want to be with him anymore. I don’t hate him, he hasn’t had an affair (that I know of), he works hard. But he’s always put himself first in our relationship and I’ve had about enough. Last straw came this week when I found out he’d booked a table for two at a fancy restaurant in London. He works in London a few days a week, so clearly he was planning on having a nice night out with someone and that someone wasn’t me. This is just typical of the sort of thing he does.

We have a DD with autism. She’s now twenty, but for all intents and purposes it’s like having a child living at home. We can’t leave her on her own, she always has to have a carer if one of us is not with her. I have tried to keep my career going, but it’s been difficult, and there have been gaps. Last year I got a full time position but because of the problems with support workers, medical appointments and so on, I’m down to a three day week. Which is fine, I suppose but this is probably the last chance I have to get my career back on track and I want to go back to at least four days next year. He plans on going freelance next year, but claims he won’t be able to assist with our daughter.

I haven’t had a night away without her in about ten years. I have no family who can help out. I don’t go out with work colleagues or even attend the Christmas party. I feel utterly fed up with the load I’ve had to carry more or less on my own. And it’s not just being the primary carer for DD – I also do almost everything else to keep our household running. If my DH wasn’t around I’m sure I’d feel less stressed, less resentful certainly. He leaves everything to me. The only things he’ll do at home do are cooking, some food shopping (but not the boring weekly shop) and mowing the lawn.

He’ll arrange holidays for himself, but never for us as a family. He’s constantly buying things for himself, but I can’t remember the last time he bought our children birthday or Christmas presents. He arranges theatre and art exhibition tickets for himself, but the family outings are left to me. He’s never taken DD to the doctor, dentist, psychiatrist etc. He’s never taken our dog to the vet. What is the point of him, I find myself asking

I want to tell him to piss off, but I’m worried that my menopausal rage is clouding the issue. I’m not wrong in thinking I’d be better off without him, am I?

OP posts:
InstagramPork · 09/11/2018 07:14

What would happen if next time you just absconded? Tell him your popping out and then just book yourself into a hotel for a few days? What would he do with regards to your daughter?
Realistically what would he do if you were no longer able to care for her? He’d just have to get on with it wouldn’t he.
I’d be tempted to give him a short sharp dose of reality

InstagramPork · 09/11/2018 07:15

if next time he’s home you just absconded*
I meant

batshitbetty · 09/11/2018 07:33

You say you don’t hate him. I’ve just read your post and I hate him. And I think you have more reason to...

This sums up my thoughts perfectly

Thingsdogetbetter · 09/11/2018 08:04

Practical stuff post getting rid of waste of space: contact the National Autistic Society about support. They can help with carers, respite (in your own home if you wish) and ensuring you are claiming every benefit for your dc as possible.

Your rage is justified! For once huzzah for menopause! 🤩

Unicornandbows · 09/11/2018 08:11

I don't even know him and hate him myself. You need to leave him life is too short to be stuck with a selfish asshole like him.

Get some legal advice ASAP don't waste anymore of your time on him

ferrier · 09/11/2018 08:19

I'd just walk out the house one evening and not come back until midnight (making sure he was there to look after dd of course).
He is so far from reasonable that he doesn't even know what it looks like. Outrageous that he doesnt even know how to look after his own daughter.

lifebegins50 · 09/11/2018 08:22

You certainly have grounds for his unreasonable behaviour.

Who deals with finances? If its him get access to the information and start seeing how financially you will manage.

He seems utterly self centred and very unlikely to change, indeed he is likely to get worse as he ages.
I started again aged 50, tough to go through a separation BUT I feel so much more supported as the assumption was I had a partner.
Finances are more difficult as a single person but I much prefer my life now..I am much happier and feel more relaxed. Don't under estimate the impact of a negative partner on your life, it is very draining.

TheHodgeoftheHedge · 09/11/2018 08:30

I don’t want to be with him anymore

And that’s ok. It’s totally ok for that to be the only reason not to be with him anymore.
Hugs.

Ruddygreattiger2016 · 09/11/2018 08:33

There is no point to him.

Believe me, letting go of the resentment when you split will be a revelation to you. Go and make the life YOU deserve, op, the amount of work you do now proves you and dd will be more than fine. Flowers

NotAnotherParkingFine · 09/11/2018 09:23

OP please don't allow this to continue, you would be far happier without this deadweight in your life. There are so many depressingly similar threads at the moment - husbands and partners who act like single men and expect the woman to shoulder all of the domestic drudgery, and many who then sulk and become spiteful when the exhausted, resentful woman fails to act like a porn star in bed. They really do want a housekeeper they can shag don't they?

A favourite phrase of mine is 'if you can't be a good example then you better be a terrible warning'. Let these threads be a warning to anyone in a new, newish relationship to challenge this kind of crap as soon as it starts. My MIL did everything for my husband, so there was definitely a period of establishing ground rules when we got together. The "Oh don't we have any milk?", comment as he peered forlornly into the fridge, was the first one I remember. I don't drink milk, I don't think about getting milk. My response was simply "Why are you asking me?" People treat us how we allow them to, so please please please value and respect yourself, and don't let anyone treat you like the hired help. You will gain much more respect if you demonstrate that you value yourself.

Good luck OP. I have a feeling your future is a lot brighter than your present.

babygoose48 · 09/11/2018 09:30

Wow, this is not a relationship is it?

I really feel for you OP. I hope you decide what’s best for you and your children and act accordingly.

Btw, sorry to say this but the excuse that he just ‘asked around the office to see if anyone fancies going’ doesn’t sit well. Reeks of OW.

Big hugs to you x

TeeBee · 09/11/2018 09:40

Wow, he's treating you like an unpaid servant. I had one that was only half as bad as that. Its amazing how much free time I have now I booted him out. One less person to pick up after for a start. My career has flown and my income tripled since he moved out and everyone is so much calmer and happier. And he was nowhere near as bad as yours. Get shut.

MiddleAgeDaze · 09/11/2018 09:53

Thanks to everyone for the replies. It's very encouraging to realise that I'm not being ridiculous, unreasonable and over-reacting. These are all things he's said to me when I've tried to discuss the issues with him. At best he would do more for a little while but it didn't last.

Someone asked about the holidays - yes, he does go away on his own. Not a massive amount but about once a year. Going away with DD is difficult, and I'd have no problem with him taking time away if I got the same. It's the lack of reciprocation that totally pisses me off. I've told him I'm going to take a weekend in the new year. I'll arrange for a carer to come in the evening and he can just lump it.

I've started looking for solicitors already. I'm in charge of the finances so I know what we've got and where it all is. We have a joint account and joint mortgage so that will have to be sorted. It's the thought of the enormous upheaval that has put me off seriously pursuing a separation but I can't carry on living like this, it's making me ill.

OP posts:
StormTreader · 09/11/2018 10:26

"I'm in charge of the finances so I know what we've got and where it all is."

Bloody hell, he really does have it all his own way, doesnt he? So you're his home PA as well as 100% carer for your daughter while he just swans about at his job and books himself fancy meals out with his mistress? They probably have lovely chats about how nice the holiday hes booked for himself will be.

sisterfrancesbeaverhausen · 09/11/2018 10:36

I hate him too. Fingers crossed he gets food poisoning at the restaurant

yetmorecrap · 09/11/2018 10:54

This is a guy who really shouldn’t be married, I would do a bit of discreet snooping OP even though you know you want out, because if you know 100% what you are dealing with it’s way easier to get that fire in your belly to take him to the cleaners. If you are comfortably off, I think a PI for a few days may well be worth every penny

pointythings · 09/11/2018 11:12

What you are feeling is righteous fury, and if it takes the menopause to make you see clearly, so be it.

I'm glad to see you are ready to sink your teeth into the hard work of splitting up. Yes, it will be tough - but your life will be sooooo much richer when the dust has settled. Go for it!

CallMeRachel · 09/11/2018 11:23

Reading between the lines here I think he's pushing you to leave him.

He doesn't want to be 'the bad guy' so is pissing you off so you react.

I also can't get past a restaurant telephoning your home... Hmm Very odd...

Again....wondering if he wants out.

Anyway it sounds as if you've emotionally detached from him as well as him from you, so yes you should absolutely divorce BUT don't allow him to walk away as a single man with no responsibilities.

He has a daughter with additional needs, he needs to step up there so make sure he has her on set days every week to give you a break.

Fairylea · 09/11/2018 11:31

You need to leave him.

I have a child with autism and if I ever felt my dh was anything less than an equal carer and parent let alone partner to myself it would be the end of it for us.

You’ve got enough on your plate without a miserable man about as well.

SweetnessIWasOnlyJoking · 09/11/2018 12:17

Obviously there are two sides to every story, and you well be a complete arse yourself (I see no evidence but you never know)... but this guy does not see you as a partner. To him, you are this woman he married a while back and will probably always be there, like the way you think of your combi boiler or the lawnmower.

Before you divorce, I think you owe it to yourself to talk, talk and talk some more. See a doctor, get therapy and talk to your friends. Read books. Talk to your husband.

Thebluedog · 09/11/2018 12:27

What is the point of him OP, seriously, what is it you get out of the relationship?

MixedMaritalArts · 09/11/2018 12:56

Most ‘posh’ restaurants phone to confirm 48 hours in advance.

MiddleAgeDaze · 09/11/2018 13:19

Yeah, I was surprised when I heard the message on the phone. I had to listen to it twice - then I assumed they'd got the wrong number and I only mentioned it to DH in an "oh there was a weird message on the phone" kind of way. It's one of Ottolenghi's restaurants so I suppose demand for tables is high. I also can't work out why he gave them our home number instead of his mobile. I spoke to him yesterday and he claims he cancelled the booking because no-one wanted to go with him. In which case why did he withdraw £150 in cash? I just don't believe him.

To make matters worse it's his birthday today and I can't even bring myself to wrap his presents. He called this morning and I didn't wish him happy birthday either.

Thebluedog I did love him once and I found him interesting. I thought he behaves the way he does because he's "complicated". Nah. He's just a selfish twat.

We've been together for decades, more than thirty years and I have just become part of the furniture, another domestic appliance. It's quite possible he wants out as well. I'm not much fun to be around a lot of the time, at least when I'm with him.

Sweetness I've read books, I've seen a marriage counseller (on my own, DH wouldn't go), I've talked to friends until they're sick of hearing about it, I've even talked to my mum. I fairly frequently say to DH that I'm not happy, often ask him to do more. I honestly think there is nothing more to be gained from any of these strategies. I don't want to take anti-depressants for situational depression. I'd rather change the situation.

OP posts:
TheSecondMrsAshwell · 09/11/2018 13:19

I'd just walk out the house one evening and not come back until midnight

That's a cunning plan, but I doubt that he would even notice OP is gone, would stay wrapped up in his own stuff and leave her DD to her own devices...... And if DD hurt herself, OP would get the blame. Big time. That's how his mind will work - OP left her child alone, not that he might take a smidge of responsibility.

AS for the restaurant ringing, yes, they do confirm ahead of time..... what puzzles me is why he gave his home number. Not his mobile number and not his office number. Yeah, I reckon he's pushing the OP into leaving. Get that financial info now.

Thebluedog · 09/11/2018 13:44

What floors me about everything you’ve said OP, is that he’s booked himself into a posh restaurant, ‘supposedly’ with the intent to go with a work colleague, yet YOU haven’t been out in 10 years Angry I find this awful, why hasn’t your dh done something about this for you. I
Astounded at his level of selfishness.