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Someone help me make sense of this please

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0hMyDayz · 03/11/2018 20:50

This is going to be a long one, sorry

Difficult relationship with Daughter who is in 3rd year at Uni, partly due to ex brain washing her and doing everything in his power to make me look evil.

DD asked my DSis a few weeks before she went back to uni after Summer to be a guarantor for her uni accommodation, she couldn't do it as only works part-time so she asked me and I agreed.....even though she hadn't spoken to me for over a year at this point. Met up with DD for 5mins as she was loading her stuff into her boyfriends car and she agreed to keep in touch. A few messages were exchanged on her way to uni and once she was settled I messaged her to see if I could send her some money. She provided me with account number and sort code and I transferred a couple of hundred pounds into the account and received a "thanks x" by text.

I have text a couple of times in the last month and had one word answers, all ok as at least there is some communication.

Last night I happened to wake up at 5.30am, checked my phone to see a missed call and voicemail from her number, message was 2 mins of muffled music. Rather than call back I sent text asking if everything was ok and got an immediate reply saying "can you lend me some money". She wanted me to lend her £100 or as much as I was able as she was struggling with bills. I agreed that I would sort in morning when I was awake. She then carried on the text conversation....which I thought was strange as called me "babe" at one point!! She offered to meet up with me again when she was back and she wanted me to meet her boyfriend as I had only met him for a few seconds. The last message I sent was delivered but not read.

Throughout the day I've had this weird feeling that it wasn't her texting which was confirmed by my DSis when I asked her to check the number. DSis called her and at first she claimed not to know the number, then she said it was her boyfriends number and now she is saying that she never sent the account number a month ago and "someone" must have used an app to change their number to hers to send their bank account details which I have then used to transfer money over to. I'm so confused, how could this happen, is it even possible, especially as she is now texting me from the same number??

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Holdingonbarely · 03/11/2018 20:54

All sounds really strange. How long has she been with her boyfriend
Have you actually spoken to her.
You don’t think you can use an app to change a phone number.
Is it just texting or is this on WhatsApp ?
Anyway, aside from all of this, you just need to pick up the phone and have a proper conversation

Sethis · 03/11/2018 20:55

now she is saying that she never sent the account number a month ago and "someone" must have used an app to change their number to hers to send their bank account details which I have then used to transfer money over to. I'm so confused, how could this happen, is it even possible, especially as she is now texting me from the same number??

This sounds very much like someone picked up her phone, read her messages, saw the money offer from you, and replied with their bank details and then deleted the messages from her handset.

I'd arrange a face to face meeting as soon as bloody possible so you can fully sort out 100% what the fuck has happened and who has been receiving this money if not her. Who else has had access to her phone? This is a huge crime and needs possible police investigation.

If you have suspicions of the boyfriend, then you need to get him to show you or your daughter a bank statement with his account number and sort code. If he's innocent, he loses nothing. If he's guilty, he'll refuse to show you, or the account number and sort code will match up to the message you received and have been sending money to.

At which point you prosecute the ever-living crap out of him.

Sethis · 03/11/2018 20:57

Also: At your face to face meeting you need to make a side-by-side comparison between your message history and her message history, and see if they match up. If they don't match identically, someone has been screwing with her phone. You can't edit message history from any device that you're not logged into.

Unobtainable · 03/11/2018 20:59

Someone is lying. I think you need a PAC Code to change a number. Could she/he have added another number to the account?

0hMyDayz · 03/11/2018 21:09

She is saying that she did not send the text with bank account details but it was sent from the same number that she text me on last night and same number that she is texting me on now.

I have asked to meet her face to face but she is now ignoring phone and uni is 3 hours drive away.

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0hMyDayz · 03/11/2018 21:20

I am starting to think this is her boyfriend texting me and giving me his details and then deleted it off her phone so she doesn't see.

If that's the case, I'm going to speak to the Police for advice, there is no other explanation, is there?

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Sethis · 03/11/2018 21:27

Speak to the police once you have a clear idea of the timeline of events. What messages your daughter has/has not received or sent.

If it was me, given that tomorrow is a Sunday, I'd be descending like the Wrath of God Incarnate on her, her boyfriend, and anyone in the vicinity, three hour drive or not.

Best of luck with it!

Holdingonbarely · 03/11/2018 21:28

Don’t get the police involved before you know all the facts. You said your relationship with her broke down due to the last boyfriend.
All guns blazing will not help at all
You have to talk to her properly and work out what has actually happened.

0hMyDayz · 03/11/2018 21:43

@Holdingonbarely sorry it was my ex, her Father, that caused our relationship to breakdown. I realise it's confusing from my op.

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Angelcd · 03/11/2018 22:09

It does seem like her bf to me too ,he could easy do what u said .the police will help u find out who got your money x

Gemini69 · 03/11/2018 22:12

I'd go to the Police.. Flowers

muchalover · 03/11/2018 22:16

Perhaps inform her that unless you can meet to sort it out then you have little option but to bring the police and banks into it as it seems like fraud or theft. This is to safeguard her accounts as well as yours.

user1471590586 · 03/11/2018 22:22

Text your daughter and tell her that you will have to report the fraud to the police and your bank so they can investigate. Perhaps that will make her question her boyfriend.

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