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Feel like I’ve been hit with a sledgehammer

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DrunkenUnicorn · 02/11/2018 06:10

I really thought I was done with all this bullshit years ago. Sad Bucke up, it’s a long one.

I’ve just found out ‘d’h is having an affair. I was raging and now I just feel flat and completely drained by it- it’s only been four hours!

Like most long term couples we’ve had our ups and downs. We’ve had a few downs in recent months with lack of time for each other, we have 3 DC aged 15-2 together. He works very long hours in town so I pretty much do all household
/mental loaf and kids stuff in the week.

We were having a bad patch as I was getting so fed up that he never made time for us, particularly in the week. He would regularly go out for drinks in the week, do his sport at least once per week, he signed up to volunteer on a local committee etc. On average he would be out 3 times per week after work, could on ocassion be 5 nights, coming home anytime between 9-12. At the weekends I do a hobby for a 2 hours both weekend days with one of the DC. He would moan that we never spend time together, and said that this time my DC and I spent together meant that we never spent time as a couple. He didn’t seem to appreciate that if he came home from work straight away at 7pm then he would actually see the kids and me. I admit, I was pissed of and resentful that he was trying to take the only 4 hours I had to do something I enjoy away, rather than actually be part of our family in the week. He was grumpy and miserable on occasion but it wasn’t all bad by any means. I didn’t mind him going out a lot as his job is very stressful and intense, so long as when he was here he made an effort.

Anyway it came to a head at its very worst, in mid September and I said I was really fucked off that he was always miserable and sulking at home, the mornings in particular were awful. He would roll out of bed, way after I got up with kids, and then expect me to drive him to the station with barely a good morning and without doing any parenting at all. I put it quite simply that why would I want to spend time with you when you are so bloody miserable. You blame it on disliking your job and yet you have so many social engagements you clearly can’t be like this all the time or nobody would want to spend time with you!! Why are they with making an effort for but I’m not?

Anyway that was the lowest point. It lasted a few weeks but after our talk it genuinely did improve and things have been really good between us. Yes, he still goes out a lot, but when he’s here he’s not so god damn miserable. We’ve done a lot of stuff together as a family and as a couple and things are the best they’ve been in months. Without being TMI our sex life had really picked up, having dwindled from twice a month to several times a week and great sex at that.

I was delighted things were going so well and we were back on track after a minor bump in the road. I saw it as we’ve been together 16 years, of course there are peaks and troughs. We have had several.

However, there were a couple of niggly things I couldn’t shake. The first being that at the end of September DC1 and I went away for the night as he has qualified for a major competition in his sport. The plan had been my father would look after Dc3 and pick up dc2 from school and DH would come back ASAP from work and collect them around 7.

At 730 I get a worried call from df saying he couldn’t get hold of DH and should he feed kids at his house and bath them etc. I was 4 hours away and completely stuck. Tried calling DH repeatedly both at work and on mobile and couldn’t get through. Eventually got a text saying he had been delayed at work and was about to leave for train. Then radio silence. At gone 9 I get s slightly worried call from df. Still nothing from DH and should he put the kids to bed at his house? I’m mortified and stressed as I have no idea why DH hasn’t turned up and there’s nothing I can do as I’m 4 hours away (and if I did leave then dc1 would miss his competition the next morning). Eventually got hold of DH and he spun me some line about trains cancelled, trying another line and such bollocks. I looked up find my friends and he was not at the station but as busy area where there are bars etc. I asked and he said he’d gone for a drink whilst waiting for train to sort itself out. My dad ended up picking him up from the station at 1130pm. I didn’t persue it but I just didn’t believe this story and thought it likely that he had maybe snuck off for a drink with one of his male work mates he’s close too. Although I thought it was likely there was some truth in the story, ie trains delayed, busy so decided to wait till less busy for eg. I didn’t think he would be a complete shit by deliberately planning to not turn up.

Anyway things were improving a lot but spidey senses were tingling. I have no idea why. He was staying out a litte later once a week or more, midnight or so, coming back a bit drunk which didn’t usually happen so often.

Between us things were going strength to strength. He was more emotionally available and making an effort to do more.

About a week or two ago. I made some crack about having s dream he had fooled around with his secretary at work just to gauge his reaction. Nothing.

On Friday he said he was going to be late staying out with some work mates as it was a birthday. All fine, just don’t wake me. When he got in his did wake me. He got into bed and was fiddling with his phone. Didn’t think much of it. I sleepily got up to go for a wee and he acted as if he’d had an electric shock and hid his phone under his pillow which was odd.

I’ll be honest, I’m my sleepiness I sort of forgot until today. He had left his phone out and gone into the shower.

Well I’m sure you can guess. Very very explicit messages including videos she’d sent him. The text was explicit but did seem to imply they hadn’t yet slept together.

We had s family engagement this evening. I held it together.

I confronted him this evening.

He admitted it. Almost from the cheaters script. We were in a really bad place, no time together bollocks.

Said she’s a colleague. Claims it’s only been going on since September. Came about because we were in a bad place. He hadn’t slept with her, but they’d gone out drinking after work several times, inc the night he went AWOL. They’d kissed and clearly exchanged explicit msgs but no more. However they did discuss sleeping together as they have a works away weekend in two weeks.

I am gutted. I am beyond fucking furious that he would take the piss out of my father like he did. I could almost get my head around it if it had stopped as soon as things improved with us. I would think him weak and pathetic but I could kind of understand it.

I’ve gone from raging at him at 1-2am to completely flat as nothing from 4 till now. I can’t sleep. I’ve been sick.

How could he chuck away 16 years and three kids over this?

Apparently he’s sorry (that he was caught!) although he did say at one point he’s glad I now know and it’s stopped before it went any further. He loves me, he wants to be with me, he doesn’t know what on Earth possessed him etc etc etc.

I am so angry that he has put me in this position. Right now he disgusts me. How can I ever look at him the same, or feel intimate with him again (as I said, post baby number 3 and extended BF until recently our sex life has taken a battering and I’m about a stone heavier than I was and feel a bit grumpy). Whilst I didn’t watch her videos, it is very clear she’s young, toned, very slim etc etc She works with him so it’s not like he can go no contact.

I don’t think I can leave him even if it’s what I want to do (which I’m not sure about) without tearing the kids lives apart. I haven’t worked since dc2 was born as we put his career first. We live in an expensive south east area and our mortgage alone is 2k per month for a perfectly normal family house. We would have to move, i would have to move the kids schools, the older two are both v sporty, (different sports) but DC1 would definitely have to give his up as it’s expensive.

What the fuck do I do with this mess he’s made. Sad

OP posts:
DelphiniumBlue · 02/11/2018 07:50

Are you actually married? It makes a difference to your financial situation.
But in any event, whatever you do, go back to work. Get him to foot the childcare bill if you can, you've already lost out on earnings. You need to future proof your income in case he does it again.

If he won't cooperate, then you'll know how sorry he really is.
This is awful for you, so sorry you're going through this.

Luckystar1 · 02/11/2018 07:50

And I agree with Attila entirely. The whole inflated ego thing. It’s absolutely right in our case. Funnily enough, my husband was also 35. Is this the new mid life crisis age?! Dicks.

Missingstreetlife · 02/11/2018 08:17

Take a break, leave him with the kids,that will keep him busy.
Get the truth. It will break you if something comes out later.
If you try to save your relationship he has to be no contact with her, unless they are both over it(does she have partner). Maybe one of them can transfer. Relate good, together or alone. He's a wanker, what a cliche. Best wishes

justilou1 · 02/11/2018 08:26

Bugger making him get out of the house... leave him with the kids and the laundry, etc... Tell him that you expect him to handle all the usual kids activities, birthday parties, present buying, wrapping, etc. You will not be taking calls and neither will your father. Take off with your Dad to a lovely hotel at your husband’s expense and drink all the wine. See a solicitor Monday and get your ducks in a row so that you know what your options are when you know what you want from your marriage.

Bodabing · 02/11/2018 10:10

This was me 10 weeks ago. I wrote to the OW just to let her know I knew, then blocked her, let her panic I'd tell her DH. My DH also wrote one text to say it was over and that he was going to block her and did. We then went into HR together to discuss it so HR in the workplace knew. Then we went to joint and separate councilling.

I found the key for me was NOT making any life changing decisions, I set a week to give DH time to tell/show me everything as it can be awful with prolonged trickle feed, he had to own what he'd down. I have also set 6 months before I even think about divorce. If I leave him I want to be sure what I'm doing and where I'm going and how we will deal with the kids. By not forcing a decision I've felt I've been able to concentrate on dealing with the massive bloody bomb the bastard dropped into our lives. As you can tell I'm not calm yet! Don't rush, look after you, be strong it's up to him to do the work as it was him that broke it. And if it won't fix don't feel guilt. Flowers

SchnitzelVonKrumm · 02/11/2018 10:26
  1. The works weekend is off. If necessary he will explain to his boss and the head of HR that he has had inappropriate contact and communication with a junior colleague (using work phones? Serious offence in most workplaces). He might want to do this anyway as a newly qualified professional whose boundaries are so poor she sends fanny shots to a married colleague probably can't be relied upon for discretion.

  2. While he is looking for another job (because he dislikes this one, right?), he will request a change in role at work so that he doesn't have any further contact with OW - explaining as above if needed. The new role and the new job will allow him to do 50 percent of all pick ups and drop offs for the children at school and their activities, allowing you to focus on your reviving your career. If additional help is needed, he will organise and pay for it.

  3. As he has shown he cannot be relied upon, your career is now the family's first priority. If this requires him to take a step back in terms of seniority, then that's an unfortunate consequence of the choices he's made. This is his chance to show that he can support you as you've supported him. He'll have to step up anyway if you decide to divorce him so might as well get things in place now so that it's less disruptive for the children.

You need to establish some financial independence to rebalance the relationship and as futureproofing - you said in your first post I really thought I was done with all this bullshit years ago which I take to mean he's cheated before?

WinterSunglasses · 02/11/2018 11:07

She works with him so it’s not like he can go no contact

He can: by finding a new job as soon as is humanly possible. That's what he must commit to doing. And he can and should avoid her in the meantime. Schnitzel and luckystar1 have given excellent advice for you here. Flowers

SlipperyNettle · 02/11/2018 13:12

I’m so sorry to hear this. Please be prepared that just because you’ve found out, that doesn’t mean it’s over. They may just take it deeper underground. He must be pretty taken with her to be willing to risk his marriage and family and home on seeing her. Definitely find out your options practically for separating, you have no idea right now whether he’s gonna keep seeing her, or even whether he’ll decide to leave to make a go of it with her. I can’t stress this enough: this may not be your decision. Whatever he says about ‘it didn’t mean anything!’ is a complete lie: nobody risks everything on something that doesn’t mean anything. She meant something, and if he’s capable of deceiving you for this long he’s capable of continuing.

I think in the long run you’ll never be able to trust him again, and will likely always feel that he has fucked the relationship up and sullied it for good. If you think you can live with that then you might explore trying to stay together, but you know yourself and you know whether in the long run you’d be happy living in such a half relationship when the other path could lead to your independence, happiness, and one day maybe a new partner who cherishes you and would never put you through this hell and disrespect. Flowers

hellsbellsmelons · 02/11/2018 16:22

This is so horrible for you OP.
So many of us know what you are going through.
The physical pain in your chest.
Your heart literally breaking.
The being sick.
Not eating etc......
I got through on sugary tea and ice-lollies for ages as I couldn't stomach anything solid.
So just keep your sugar levels up and keep yourself hydrated.
When the adrenalin wears off the 'low' will hit you like a tonne of bricks.

Definitely get to your friends tonight.
Have a good cry and good talk and see where that leads you.
But no knee-jerk reactions right now.
Can you leave him to it until Sunday?
You do need some headspace without him in it or around you.

I fucking hate men. So so so so many do this shit.
With no thought or understanding of the complete devastation it causes.

Be kind to yourself.

robindeer · 02/11/2018 16:40

Everything Schnitzel said. Make these the conditions of your marriage having a chance of survival.

I'm sorry you're going through this.

AtrociousCircumstance · 02/11/2018 16:46

Solicitor, get everything nailed down - exactly what you’re entitled to. Exactly what the reality would be for him to be single and have joint/partial custody. Start from there. Start from scorched earth.

DrunkenUnicorn · 02/11/2018 16:49

Thank you everyone for your messages.

I can’t remember who asked but no, it’s mot about OW, she is pretty irrelevant really. So whilst realistically I am bound to have wobbles about comparisons, she doesn’t deserve any headspace. I started to try and work out who she was on his company’s website but stopped. No need to do that to myself.

No, this was on personal mobiles not work one.

Sort of walking round in a daze. Keep getting the shakes, right now in fact!

I have told our oldest mutual friend. We have known each other since we were 13/14. He’s said come and spend the weekend with himself and his partner and we’ll talk and they’ll look after me.

He’s coming home super early, Any minute in fact. I’m leaving him to it, sorting dinner out, taking ds2 to his sport etc. I’m going to our bedroom and shutting the door. I’d like to say I’m going to sleep but don’t know if I can. I’ve been awake since 6am Thursday. I feel physically awful. I’m heading off tomorrow first thing.

Thank you again for all of your kind words.

OP posts:
hellsbellsmelons · 02/11/2018 16:54

Nothing any of us say will make this any better right now.
I'll be honest - you probably won't sleep.
It will go around and around in your head night after night.
BUT..... you will get through this.
Is there no way you can go to your friends tonight?
Even if you arrive late.
It makes such a difference being with supportive loving people and being in someone else's bed.
It's odd but it's so comforting and you will be able to relax so much more there.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 02/11/2018 17:00

So glad you can escape for the weekend with your friend and his partner, they sound lovely.

Tell him he's on the sofa/in the spare room this evening, and shut the door. (Maybe take a bottle of wine in with you) and don't forget your phone/laptop charger. Flowers

MistressDeeCee · 02/11/2018 17:03

Cheeky Fucker Of The Year.

To think he'd opted out of family life and couldn't be asked to spend time with his own children, PLUS subjected you to sulky moods AND wanted to deny you your hobby time.

& all the while he was fucking wining & dining and making time for another woman?!

Withdraw from relationship. Let him go live loves old dream with his sidepiece. Get all your paperwork and bank account details to hand, in case he tries a sly one. CSA claim, too.

Let him go sulk complain and be lazy with her.

whynot93 · 02/11/2018 17:25

Sending hugs 💐 I've been there, the shakes, sickness and the daze. Be kind to yourself my lovely xx

justilou1 · 03/11/2018 10:18

Just checking in to see if you’ve had any sleep. I hope you’re feeling a bit more human. I’ve been thinking of you.

Ilikechicken18 · 03/11/2018 10:59

How horrible for u, it is good your going to your mates so u can think clearly. I have to say tho why wud u want to salvage the relationship for yourself (kids aside), he is very selfish he doesn't help u and prioritises himself and drinking over time with u and the kids. He would of slept with her and risked completely throwing your relationship away for sex. I agree he made it seem like a rough patch and won't change. Ppl only change if they see what they're doing is wrong and by what u say he had no intention of stopping or saw anything wrong (bar getting caught). Why put urself through so much misery feeling shit whenever he leaves the house, or goes out drinking when u were the one who didn't do anything wrong. Sorry I don't mean to upset u, but I wouldn't want u to waste ur life on a selfish man like him u sound far to nice and giving x

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