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Boyfriend talking negatively to friend about our relationship

21 replies

Rezie · 23/10/2018 19:57

I’m first to admit that I occasionally discuss my relationship with my friends. It’s usually about how my boyfriend was annoying, how I don’t understand his reasoning and general chitchat. If we have had a disagreement and I’m talking with a friend I can ask for advice or voice my concerns. Often, I voice these concerns to my boyfriend, but sometimes after talking with a friend I realize that maybe it was me and it is unnecessary to bring up. It’s never bashing even though it might not be the most flattering. It’s also never anything that I couldn’t speak with him and usually smaller things in a respectful manner.

My boyfriend has his best friend. They chat a lot and their way of talking is very negative. It’s sometimes funny or ironic negative, but it sometimes feels like a light-hearted competition on who is more miserable. It’s hard to explain. I’ve heard his friend talking about his wife and sometimes it sounds bad, but they have an understanding with my bf about what it means. The thing is that I happen to believe that the core of what he is saying is true. He might not mean the over the top part which is their added drama. But the core feeling has a truth. His wife is going to start working in the same industry with him, so they will have overlapping business events etc. he made a comment “sometimes I wish Jane would just be gone (as in moved out) when I get home”. While I don’t think he wants Jane to move out. I do think he does hope to get more space in the relationship and he is nervous about being in the same work circles with his wife. My boyfriend doesn’t see it this way and “knows” it’s just the they communicate and friend and Jane are very happy.

My problem is that I recently found out how (don’t want to get into how, but I was not supposed to overhear or find out) he has talked about me. He pretty much expressed that “the reason I tolerate all the bull shit she puts me through is because it beats being single”. I’m having really hard time accepting that this is how they talk and this not having any truth on how he feels. I'm happy to work through the "bull shit" if he would share it with me. My boyfriend just tried to explain that it’s their thing to make it sound like everything is horrible. Whereas he talks nicely about us to his other friend who don’t have this “thing” with him. I feel like I’d be very naïve to accept this explanation just like this. But since his actions really don’t go with those words either, so I can’t really accept that he really feels that way, especially since I know the relationship with his friend. I’m not really sure on how to proceed. I know I have to talk with my bf again. We are not gonna break up over this. I’m committed to try to sort this out, so I’m hoping for advice of how to approach this so that we can understand each other and move passed this.

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Robin2323 · 23/10/2018 20:40

Not quite the same but my dh has banter with his workmates.
When it comes to his best mate
Someone thought they hated each other but it was just a thing they had.
Sounds crazy but that's how they talked to each other.

RebelWitchFace · 23/10/2018 21:16

I do that with my best friend...to see it black on white you'd think we're planning to murder them in their sleep sometimes. The thing it's offset by nice stuff as well(just not as often).
OH knows he's sometimes a dick and that when that happens I speak to my friend. He doesn't need confirmation of that, he also doesn't need to see what's being said as he can imagine after seeing me in full rant mode numerous times.

Rezie · 23/10/2018 21:52

Thanks guys. I'm all for banter and opening up to my friends. I'm also happy that he has a friend to share things with and I really don't need to know everything (ignorance is a bliss like I learned yet again). I do have a sense of humour eventhough it may not sound like it 😀

Part of me is wondering if I'm just overreacting. Especially since it wasn't said to me directly. I guess I just can't identify with this to this extend. I can totally relate if he said "I swear I will strangle Rezie if she leaves her shoes in front of the door", "I swear if she tries to put me on a diet, I'll put a pillow over her face" or "she is being such a bitch for forcing me to go to her mum's birthday party". But just somehow the sentiment of how I'm better than not having anyone somehow hit a nerve. Could be that this was an insecurity I didn't know I had. I just can't seem to shake it off just like that and accept that it's just a made up since it is so specific thing to say.

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RebelWitchFace · 23/10/2018 22:04

How is he in the relationship?

Do you feel loved,supported, respected,listened to? Does he show his love? Do you feel secure in your relationship with him?

Escolar · 23/10/2018 22:08

Don't judge the whole relationship by something you weren't meant to hear. I honestly believe that sometimes people talk rubbish and it really doesn't mean they feel that way deep down.

Shambu · 23/10/2018 22:14

I think the whole thing is really weird I'm not surprised you're kind of freaked out by it.

How can you possibly know if there's anything behind it nor.

What his friend said about his wife is really odd.

As sense of humours go it seems quite oafish.

puzzledlady · 23/10/2018 22:26

So you do it with your friends and you know what the tone/how to take things.

He does the same and you’ve overheard/read and interpreted it yourself? Now you’re upset? I think like you, he and his mate have their own interpretation. Imagine if he had overheard what you say to your friends and made his own assumptions.

JoyfulMystery · 23/10/2018 22:56

I wouldn’t be hanging about being the punchline of hilarious banter about my ‘bullshit’, I’m afraid. It’s pretty juvenile, all that ball and chain/‘er indoors stuff, quite apart from anything else, like they’ve not quite grown up enough to admit they are in happy, committed relationships, and are still at the ‘ew, girl cooties’ stage.

SandyY2K · 23/10/2018 23:04

I wouldn't like it either. It would probably lead to me withdrawing from him a bit too.

mogratpineapple · 23/10/2018 23:37

Know loads of people who play that game, men and women. It's a bit 1950s isn't it? Hate it. Ask him which is the real persona and ask him to stick with that. No I don't think 'banter' is cool and I wouldn't like it.

m0vinf0rward · 24/10/2018 10:49

So you think you have the right to dictate how and what he discusses with his friends? Perhaps you should tell him how you were listening in on his conversations / snooping and see what he thinks of that? Perhaps you should address why you felt the need to spy on a private conversation? You cannot control what people do or think, only your own actions so don't even try and go down that route. If you don't like it ...leave but just think about all the conversations you're had with your friends and how he would have reacted if he'd overheard them!! He'd probably be just as offended as you are!!

Trinity66 · 24/10/2018 10:56

I wouldn't really be happy being spoken about like that by my DH, I wouldn't do that to him and I expect the same respect back

Trinity66 · 24/10/2018 10:57

So you think you have the right to dictate how and what he discusses with his friends?

I would absolutely expect not to be disrespected like that by my DH anyway but each to their own I guess...........

m0vinf0rward · 24/10/2018 11:02

The point I was trying to make is that people shouldn't be listening in on private conversations....I will talk to my friends in a much more open manner than I would to others and probably reveal truths that aren't for others ears.

DioneTheDiabolist · 24/10/2018 11:14

Jaysus, I would hate for my DP to hear some of the things I've told my best friend about him.Halloween Shock And I have no doubt he probably is the same with his best friend.

You eavesdropped and didn't like what you heard. Address what was said and then move on, with or without him. But you can't dictate how he communicates with his friend.

Trinity66 · 24/10/2018 11:21

The point I was trying to make is that people shouldn't be listening in on private conversations....I will talk to my friends in a much more open manner than I would to others and probably reveal truths that aren't for others ears.

I suppose in relationships we all have our own expectations and boundaries. I'm quite a private person and rarely discuss issues with me and my DH with anyone other than him so I would expect that back from him too, my friends are quite like minded about that sort of thing too I think, that's not to say that occasionally I haven't said something about our relationship but not in a disrespectful way like what the OPs partner has said. I'd be pretty hurt if I thought my DH spoke about me like that with his friends, I don't think (and hope I suppose) he does though

Rezie · 24/10/2018 12:42

Thank you for the comments. Some of you are really jumping to conclusions on what happened. I have no desire to dictate what he talks with his friends. I have no interest of controlling his communication or thoughts. I'm not demanding respect. I have no problem with him talking to his friends. He has right for privacy and his own thoughts.

My issue really is that my boyfriend told his friend that the reason he is with me is because im better than nothing. I'm having trouble accepting that he has totally made this up and has no truth in it. Yes, I talk with friends but they ar3 usually a lot more innocent things like him leaving his crap to the floor. I can't really imagine saying to a friend "I hope we would not have ever met" (example from a an other thread on the site) randomly if I didn't feel that way. While I wouldn't utter those word directly like that to my partner, if I did feel that way or he asked about it I would tell the truth in more diplomatic way.

We have been together long enough that this is not the end for us. If this is how he feels/felt that moment, I'm totally happy to talk about it, what led to it and make necessary changes and find solutions. If he felt that way and gotten over it, I'll accept it was this moment where he was frustrated.

It's really hard to write what I mean. I hope that this comes across correctly. It really isn't about control or about him talking to his friend. Just a worry about our relationship and trying to understand my partner. I dont want to be somebody's better than nothing. I guess I'm trying to find out if people really just make stuff up when talking to friends, or I should forget about it or try to talk about it again.

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Mommasoph30 · 24/10/2018 12:51

i would n ot be happy with that comment ever,.

Angrybird345 · 24/10/2018 17:01

Sorry but I’d be kicking his sorry arse to the kerb. No respect whatsoever. Get rid.

Shambu · 24/10/2018 18:42

I'm having trouble accepting that he has totally made this up and has no truth in it

Quite rightly. Either there's some truth to it which is worrying or there's none whatsoever in which case why is he talking such unpleasant shite?

mogratpineapple · 25/10/2018 11:16

With instances like this my fear is you never really know someone. Will the real DH please stand up.

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