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Support needed after discovering cheating

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LiLol · 16/10/2018 12:46

Apologies if this looks similar to another post, I’ve ended up with two accounts but I think something went wrong with the other one and I’m not sure if my post appeared or not.

So, I have just joined to try and get some support and sound advice. I’m in my late thirties, have 2 kids (age 6 and 13) and been married for 8 years. My son is not his, but he was only a baby when we met. He was brilliant with my son from day one.

When I first met my husband he had been single for a while and was sleeping around with different . When he met me he declared his absolute love for me and we seemed inseparable and madly in love. He mentioned marriage after only 4 months and babies after only 6 month. He was perfect for a full year, but then he started to go out and not come home until 2am and wouldn’t answer his phone until he was on his way home in a taxi. He did ALWAYS come home though. I suspected he was chatting/getting too friendly with girls on these nights out. I never mentioned this to him, and I tried to work on my own paranoia and jealous feelings. We married after being together 3 years, and after 6 months of being married I discovered that before we got married he was texting and sexting with a girl he had met on a night out. He stopped this before we got married and wasn’t in contact with her, but on me discovering this I was broken and so hurt. He was very very remorseful and begged me to forgive him and give him another chance. I did so, and our relationship actually became better until eventually I stopped thinking about it so much and over time I got over it and became to trust him and was very happy.

We have a good sex life. He is a brilliant dad and adores our children. We have lots of ‘date nights’ and we have plenty of family holidays, weekends away. He rarely goes out with his friends and when he does, he stays in touch and comes home at a decent time, usually with a bottle of wine for me or a takeaway. We generally have a very nice life. We both work hard and we have a lot of love in our family.. but now I’m questionning everything, and I’m literally questionning – is my whole life a lie? Or am I being overly dramatic? Read on.

So, for a few months I’ve noticed a change in him. To the point where I’ve asked him why he is so miserable all the time? He’s a man of few words anyway, but he’s been worse recently. Anyway, I started to feel suspicious – he bought some new designer boxershorts and wore them for work, he kept his phone with him, even when he went in the shower room. I asked and asked, but all he said was nothing is up, I was being paranoid. He was starting to get angry with me for being suspicious – but I just KNEW. Then he talked in his sleep and I knew something wasn’t right. So I logged into his whatsapp and he had been messaging a girl at work. These messages were intimate and prove sexual attraction, lust, and at least an emotional affair. I don’t know whether they have been physical, but I suspect they have been sexting at the very least. When I was able to confront him with solid evidence he admitted it. He admitted it had been going on for about 3 months. He said it was just texting and flirting and that he still loves me. He told her that I had found out and he called it off with her. We both blocked her on all social media and in our phones, but I’m not silly, I know that if they want to be in touch, they will find a way. I just have to trust him in this moment that it is genuinely over between them.

We spent days and nights talking things through. He told me he has been unhappy with a few things – and once he told me these things I did accept that I have been unreasonable in a number of ways. No excuse for cheating, but I saw that I had been taking him for granted in a few ways, and I had made a couple of important decisions without consulting him. I put other family members before him a number of times, even though I knew deep down that he wouldn’t be happy with the decisions I made. It was selfish of me. He isn’t saying it’s my fault for him straying, but he has said that these things have made him feel generally unhappy, but because of how I am and how he hurt me in the past he was unable to talk to me.

Once again he says he still loves me and our life. He says he was not thinking of leaving me. He hopes I can get through this, but he is worried that because it is the second time, I will not be able to. He is remorseful and I am also sorry for the things that I have done in the past to make him unhappy, (however he knows I would NEVER cheat).

I am so up and down, I just don’t know what to do. She is at his work, but it is a very big place and she works part time. They don’t work on the same department but it’s still hard for me to think of them bumping into each other.

I’d love some support on how I might get through this with my husband. I can’t imagine a future without him, but I DO NOT want to be in this position again in say 7-8 years time.

Thank you.

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Sunshineandflipflops · 16/10/2018 12:56

Your dh's behaviour sounds very similar to mine before i found out he was having an affair with someone at work.

I think most people will say the same on here - once is a mistake, twice is wanting to get caught, or not caring if you do. How certain can you be that this wasn't physical and that if you hadn't have found out it would have led there?

My ex cheated when I was expecting our second baby and our first wasn't yet 2. I forgave him, we have 10 more happy years together and then he did it again. I think the question you need to ask yourself is can you continue in a happy relationship never quite knowing where his is/who is is talking to and what he is doing? I knew I couldn't.

LiLol · 16/10/2018 13:19

Thanks Sunshine, I'm sorry for what you have been through. :( I'm just finding it very hard to give everything up that we have. Its not about our home and finances, but we would literally have to sell up and downsize, and that disruption to the kids would be massive. I'm so angry that the future I had planned for my family might be ruined due to something completely out of my control. What an idiot he is Sad I can't imagine being without him.

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AnyFucker · 16/10/2018 13:23

I don't think I would ever be able to trust him again. Twice is not a mistake, it is a pattern of entitled behaviour and he has cleverly convinced you thst you are at least partly responsible for it.

No trust, no relationship.

Sunshineandflipflops · 16/10/2018 13:30

I had the same fears as you regarding disruption to mine and the children's lives, however if your ex is a decent dad then he will want as little disruption for them as possible. This is HIS mistake so you or your kids shouldn't have to suffer any more than you already have.
My ex moved out (well I packed his bag and told him to leave the day I found out about the affair) and rents a smaller house where he can have the kids regularly. He may have to rent for years because I can't really downsize (3 bedrooms, 2 kids of different genders) and would fight him tooth and nail if he tried to make us move from our home because of what he did.

What I will say is that we are stronger than we think we are. None of us ever want or expect to be in this position but you will get through it and it may take time but you will be happy again. You will also meet someone some day (when you are ready) who won't make you live in doubt and worry because that's not real love.

LiLol · 16/10/2018 14:05

Thanks, I'm glad you have come out of your relationship a stronger person.
I did that with my ex, but I thought this was my marriage and choice for life. Its so hard.
We definitely couldn't keep our house on if we separate I'm afraid. Not unless he stays with someone for next to nothing and continues to pay as much towards our mortgage and bills as he already does, (which is about 80% of our cost of living ) :( I work part time around the kids being at school.

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Sunshineandflipflops · 16/10/2018 14:29

I thought it was for life too. I guess everyone does.
Are you in a position to downsize if need be?

This is a decision that can only be made by you but make sure you make it for the right reasons. No-one wants to disrupt their kid's lives but living with unhappy parents may just do more harm in the long run. If you do decide to separate, you both need to be as 'grown up' about things as you can in front of them and that will cause less disruption.

I wanted to punch my ex in the face after what he did to me, to us but the kids have never seen or heard me say a bad word about him as he is their dad. They will find out in their own time why we separated and that will be on him. I have cried many tears when they are not here though.

You say he never thought of leaving you and i'm sure he didn't but you deserve to be everything to someone and you're clearly not if he is seeking fun elsewhere.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 16/10/2018 14:41

If your trust has gone, the relationship is broken.

Im sorry but he has not shown you or your marriage any respect. If you stay with him (and it sounds like you will), you are telling him that there are no consequences from his actions. And he will just do it again.

I know you don't want to change your practical/living/financial situation, but that's what you're going to have to compromise if you stay together. It's up to you.

Personally, I'd choose downsizing over questioning where he is/what he's up to whenever he's not in the room with you.

The kids will cope. Am sure they would much rather you were happy.

Trinity66 · 16/10/2018 14:47

I think that old saying applies here Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me.

You gave him a chance before and he's still gone and done the exact same thing again, you will never be able to trust him

LiLol · 16/10/2018 15:04

Thank you.
I know you are all right deep down.
I'm just really struggling right now. I can't stop crying today.
I feel too weak to end it. We have a family do on Saturday with his family and mine.
Yes I would have to downsize to a more affordable property for myself and 2 kids but it would have to be a 3 bedroom as I have a 13 year old boy and 6 year old girl. I don't know if I would be able to get a mortgage in my own right. I doubt I would actually. What a F**king mess!! :( sorry x

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cakecakecheese · 16/10/2018 15:09

If you've been selfish or whatever then he should ave talked to you about how he was feeling, it's not an excuse for him to start going off and sexting a colleague. Who's to say next time he feels underappreciated or whatever he won't be off texting some other woman who catches his eye?

Mariatequila · 16/10/2018 15:10

You’re going to feel down for a while, it’s only natural. You need to grieve, but after that; you know what you’ve got to do.

Sunshineandflipflops · 16/10/2018 15:27

A new mortgage won't just be on your salary though, I assume they would take into account maintenance payments from your dh. You would almost certainly be entitled to a larger share of the equity (if any) of your current home as a deposit as you have main care of the children.

I was a mess after I asked my ex to leave. We were the last couple anyone imagined would separate and it was heartbreaking but I knew my life would never be the same if we stayed together either and this way we all had a chance of being happy in the long-run.

hellsbellsmelons · 16/10/2018 15:33

How have you been taking him for granted?
When you probably HAD to put family first, why was that?
What important decisions do you make without him? I bet they weren't that important and I expect he has made loads without your 'approval' before now!
I think he sounds controlling and manipulative.
And you would be a mug to forgive him again.
There were a tonne of red flags flying from the off, but you ploughed on anyway.
I wonder why?
What did you learn about relationships during your up-bringing?

chattykathyblue100 · 16/10/2018 15:41

No one can tell you what to do, you have to decide what you can live with (or without). Lots of couples can and have survived infidelity but it must be handled properly, I would suggest relationship guidance mostly because your husband has to understand his behaviour and it will give you an opportunity to discuss your feelings. There are also a variety of Ted talks, look for Lucy Beresford's. All the very best to you.

LiLol · 16/10/2018 15:46

Hi hellsbells

He does a lot around the house and works really hard. I am not a very good cook so he does a lot of cooking. Don't get me wrong, I do my fair share and our home is spotless every morning when I leave for work. There are a few family members who are very strong characters and I try to please them, sometimes knowing that it will upset my husband. I book lots of family weekends away and plan days/nights out, but I expect him to pay because my wage doesn't cover it. He doesn't begrudge doing the things, but I'm constantly skinting him.
My mum and dad have been happily married for 40 years and they were great parents.
Me and my husband don't argue or fall out. But I am very unhappy right now, so I know the kids are seeing that and picking up on it.

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yetmorecrap · 16/10/2018 16:03

How dare he blame you!! We all have faults and quirks that a partner has to live with, however that is no excuse for going off on one with other people, does he have faults? Clearly yes, however you didn’t set about latching onto other blokes, it shows a distinct flaw in his character to try and put any blame on you whatsoever. My H never blamed me, he said what he did (which was an emotional affair) was totally on him and yet I still struggle to feel the same about him, if he had blamed me , I would have finished it.

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