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Calling time on alcholic brother. [sad]

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triballeader · 10/10/2018 14:35

If I thought it would make a difference I would send this to my brother. sigh Not a hope. He is the only one who cannot see he is now at the end stage of drug and alchohol abuse and will be dead before the year is out.
I know this is the right thing to do but I can not stop feeling sad that I have been backed into the corner that this is really my only option.

I see you abusing yourself with alcohol and prescription medicines, unable to engage with any of us or with life in any meaningful way. You have not been sober for months and I can no longer cope with your paranoia and delusions. You cause confusion and chaos and distess to all who are around you. You are upsetting us, playing the "Poor me" card, making ridiculous claims and demands, bad-mouthing us...Where is the charming, witty, talented, generous, caring brother I once knew, admired and loved? We saw him so very rarely these past few years and in the past few months not at all. My heart is breaking; for my parents memory sake I try to keep contact with you but you always manipulate my attempts. You only contact me when you want money.

Meanwhile I continue deal with the deaths of Mum and Dad. I had to sort through their things, deal with legal papers and you...? You decided to drink yourself into a seething selfishness, holding me up, trying to manipulate me to do what you want when you wanted. You created problems with everyone and tried to undo everything I have tried to sort out. What gave you the right to "opt out" of the situation and leave me to not only care for our frail sick parents. You have sabotaged my attempts to deal with the reality of winding up our parents estate and when called on that you have act like a spoilt child and lie to everyone with your constant "Poor me". Then to have you claim that you were "there" for Mum and Dad when in reality you just were not. I was, week after exhausting and distressing week throughout the last three years. My life, my business, my children all put on hold to ensure they could live out their lives as they desperatly wanted to - staying together. The one time I made the mistake of pleading with you to cover for me and just pop round and see they were okay so I could go away for a few days you let us all down. You lied to me and said you would take them food and check carers had been. I could have wept when I got back and found no-one had bought them food or changed the bed and that mum had developed painful pressure sores. All you had done was help yourself to every bottle of alchohol you could find.

When do I get to act the child and sob my heart out for losing both Mum and Dad in the same day? How could I forget you stamping our feet and shouting "What about me- I am sicker than either of them!' You said some very nasty things to me when I called to let you to let you know mum was dying and only had hours left .How dare she interrupt your plans by being so un-thoughtful of you and die. It was me who sat with both of them one after the other as they breathed their last not you. You were no where to be seen.

And the more times you behave this badly, the more determined I have become to restrict my contact with you. And that breaks my heart even more; not only have I lost Mum and Dad, now I am losing you as well – to your addictions and to your denial that you have a very serious problem. You are killing yourself.

No-one is more determined than you; so why, oh why can't you harness that determination and tackle your issues? Why do you continue denying the reality of your situation; the trips to A&E for alcohol fueled injuries. The liver failure, the impaired cognition and confusion that heralds alcohol induced dementia. Yet you have refused all the help that has been offered to you? You lie, you weedle, you only call when you want something from me. You never ever said thank you for the endless times I have had to take you to A&E. You expect everything to be done for you 'now' like its some divine right. You always turn nasty and vitriolic when I do tell you no. You have been beyond rude and demanding to my children not just me. Now you have hit the stage of refusing to engage with and listen to anymedical and professional advice?

There is nothing I can do. You made this black hole of a mess your in by your own choice. I love you but I no longer like you. I can no longer live with the chaos, the stress, the worry of what you might do next, the emotional demands for money, your expectation I can just settle the vast debts your life style choices have incurred. You lurch from drama to drama, crisis to crisis. Your not taking me with you

For my own sanity and my for my kids I cannot and will not keep on like this – forever hoping that you might wake up to what your doing and change your ways but I know it is all too late. If you continue to drink then for the sake of my children, who really do deserve better, you leave me no choice - it will have to be no contact.

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TheLongRider · 10/10/2018 14:42

I've been there and my alcoholic brother is now dead. Flowers

No contact worked for me, I had to save myself first. He was not capable of any insight and was purely selfish in his actions.

It is fine to be sad but you will probably be mourning the relationship you could have had rather than the person they are.

It is not easy, but it is necessary to live your own life.

TheDizzyRascal · 10/10/2018 15:03

Oh bless you, as the previous poster I have "experience" of this in my family, my mum's brother was the same and no surprise, he is now dead also. Very very sad but I think you're right to be strong for your kids and do what you need to do to protect them.

I was a teenager when my mum went through it and I still remember the late night phone calls from him being abusive, threatening to kill himself, we'd go and pick him up to take him shopping but he'd be drunk so my mum would get upset and refuse to take him so we would just leave again. It affected me hugely and I could cry about it now. He was a lovely lovely man but very, very ill.

He eventually did kill himself. No-one in the family could have done any more for him, he was perhaps failed by the NHS or whichever service should have been able to help him, but they tried and failed too.

I don't know what advice to send you but I couldn't read your story and not leave a message, I just remember how I felt watching this unfold before my eyes as a child, and I wouldn't want the same for your children. Sending lots of love and hopefully something more constructive will be posted soon! xx

Kr1stina · 10/10/2018 15:25

I’m so sorry. You sound like a kind and loving daughter and sister who has done so much for her family.

And now you have the right to draw a line in the sand and say

“ I can’t do this any longer “.

For the sake of your own physical and mental well being and for the sake of your children . As you know, there’s is no end to the selfishness of an addict. There’s nothing they wont say or do to get what they want. He will never set that boundary so you have to.

And I wouldn’t send the letter if i were you. Because it will hurt you even more to find out that he’s read it and doesnt care. All he will care about is that another source of money has run dry .

Write it and keep it for yourself. It will help you remember why you made the decision. You will need that when the fear, guilt and obligation creeps back in, as it will.

pointythings · 10/10/2018 16:42

You've done well writing this down and I hope it helps a little. Are you getting any support from Al-Anon or similar? I would strongly recommend it to help you process your feelings and really detach.

I've been there too - it was my husband, and he died earlier this year.

hellsbellsmelons · 10/10/2018 16:46

I honestly can't begin to imagine what you are going through OP but please do contact Al-Anon if they are not already supporting you.
They will be a great help to you right now
You've done all you can, plus a million times more.
It's time now to put you and your DC first.
Move forward in a positive way and not have any more negativity in your life.
I'm so sorry you lost your parents.
But realise now that life is short.
And live it, happy and stress free.

fantasmasgoria1 · 10/10/2018 16:46

This resonates with me. My brother has mental health issues and uses alcohol to self medicate despite being in supported living, has a psychiatrist, con and social worker. I moved cities and have not seen him for a year. When my mum died and we were on our way back from the hospital he got out of the taxi and said fuck this you can sort everything out I'm off. I persuaded him to clean the house and sort the contents whilst I dealt with the funeral and financial stuff. He expected me to mother him and always asked for money for alcohol etc. I miss him but I don't miss his dependence upon me.

Babymamamama · 10/10/2018 16:53

What a heart breaking read. So sorry for all your losses. You certainly can do no more and have gone over and beyond for your sibling. I hope you find peace knowing you have done your absolute best.

DogDayMorning · 10/10/2018 17:35

I'm so sorry OP. If it's any help, I too reached a point with my brother (not alcoholism, but equally destructive) where I said: that's it. It too was brought about by a death (of my mother). I had tried for 27 years to support him but when the balance tipped, it tipped for good. I told him I was cutting him out, I explained why, I answered his pleas for one more chance with: No. Just no.

Three years later I have not looked back, and I'm happy that I no longer have a brother. You can do it, and you should.

huttub · 10/10/2018 17:53

So very sad.

You didn't cause it
You can't control him
You can't cure him

Change yourself, it's hard but you can, you can't change him.

caringdenise009 · 10/10/2018 18:38

I also have experience of this situation, having coming to this decision about my mum when she was in intensive care because of her self destructive behaviour. I honestly don't know if I'm lucky she died before I had to let her know or not.

I understand everything you've written but I don't think you should send it. It's asking for further engagement with him when what is probably best for you is to tell him that you will not have contact with him if he is ever taking anything or drinking, and stick to your guns. Nothing you say will make any difference, his recovery has to come from him.

Disengage, look after yourself and your children. Don't feel guilty and be very kind to yourself.

Bellybootcut · 10/10/2018 19:01

No experience myself but have a friend going through this. Can you pinpoint when it started OP?

Kr1stina · 10/10/2018 19:12

Sorry but I think it’s unfair to ask the Op about her brother’s addictions. This thread is about her and her own feelings and choices.

I’m sorry about your friend Bellybootcut - maybe you should start a thread of your own about her or even suggest she comes here and starts her own. You don’t have to be a mum to use MN.

Whywonttheyletmeusemyusername · 10/10/2018 19:13

Oh this is heartbreaking. ..I'm so sorry for your loss OP. Same as Pointy , I've been there, also with my husband, who is also now dead through this destructive disease. I had to walk away. Hardest thing I've ever done, but you have to put yourself first my lovely....self preservation. Flowers for you, and Pointy

Bellybootcut · 10/10/2018 19:39

Sorry. I didn't mean to pry. The letter is deeply moving OK. You've done your best. It's a horrible situation to be in.

Bellybootcut · 10/10/2018 19:40

That should say OP, not OK. Sorry again.

Makethisquick · 10/10/2018 19:44

You have my sympathy OP and all who have been there Flowers

We can't save them. It's awful.

Antonia87 · 10/10/2018 19:52

My brother is the same. Last time I saw him he had let himself into my dad house to steal money for crack. He didn't know I was there with my family , house-sitting. He was drunk and crazy as a result of all the substance misuse and my toddler saw him in that state. He also threatened my husband. That was the last time I will ever see him as I am also no contact for my own sanity and my child's well being. You are doing the right thing. Its not your circus and they are not your monkeys. You need to protect yourself and your family.

I would second going to Al-anon. You cant do this without support.

Nunyabusiness · 10/10/2018 19:55

I don't have personal experience of this, but I just wanted to say that I think you're doing the best thing. You've been through so much and it's time to look after yourself. Sending you a big fat all-encompassing un-mumsnetty hug

BarbarianMum · 10/10/2018 20:19

Im just on the last few steps of this journey too OP. I feel terribly sad but I just cant keep doing this any more. Flowers

pointythings · 10/10/2018 20:30

Flowers and Cake to everyone who is in this boat.

triballeader · 11/10/2018 15:27

Thank you to all who responded.

I am now in the process of talking with solicitors about what I need to do to wind up the estate as my brother has been lying and utterly un-cooperative [surprise - NOT] and from past experience he is liable to turn nasty and make a legal claim I am not fit to be the executor. This is why the day after my mothers death I went to the banks and froze all accounts. It was the only way I could prevent him from emptying the accounts out before probate as I had found some of their bank cards were not where they told me they had been put. Could not visit them whilst they were dying but managed to let himself in and remove anything small that had cash value. Thats why I changed all the damned locks.

Knowing others have had to deal with similar shineghans from alcholic relatives AND got to the other side is making me more determined that this must all happen. I did say the last time he was sober for a few months that if he ever started hard drinking again we would be so done. The illegal drugs on top was one thing but the last minute claims he needs my support [aka me pay for] a hospital detox was a definate last straw.

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