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How would you have responded? Am I overreacting?

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Milonhoney · 08/10/2018 17:46

I’m a single mother to 3 primary school aged children. Like any Mum, I worry about my children if they aren’t well. My son had complained periodically about a heaviness in his ear. Not painful, But clearly uncomfortable. Not one to panic, I didn’t rush him to the Dr. until one morning he woke with a clear sticky discharge from his ear. Again, no pain, but I decided to send him to our GP to have it checked. After examining him, the GP was rather baffled admitting she couldn’t see anything wrong, but concerned about the discharge referred him to see a specialist THAT WEEK! Unfortunately the only appt available was on my ex husbands day with the children (and my work day) I hesitantly phoned my ex husband, gave him a brief run down and asked If he would be happy to take our son. If not, I would skip work to take him. He obliged, and I immediately felt relief he did not have an aneurysm over the fact the appt. was during “school time.” On the afternoon of the appointment I phoned my ex husband to ask what the outcome of the specialist visit was. His response left me speechless and unable to comprehend any form of parenting skills by him. “This has to Stop” he says! “Constantly taking the children out of school for Dr appointments because youre a hypochondriac” (I’d like to side track a little here. I think each of my 3 children have been to the Dr once each this year. My daughter was vomiting every night. And I mean very night without fail - she had to have an endoscopy. I’ll get to that) and my other son ended up with a fractured thumb) What occurred next was even more mind numbing. “There is nothing wrong with our children! They are healthy! (Our son) Did not need to see a specialist. There is nothing wrong with him! But instead he has missed a day of school that has cost ME x-amount in school fees which may as well have been pis**ed up against a wall and I’m $400 out of pocket because you over react!” I was then “demanded” to pay the day of school fees he missed and half the cost of the specialist appointment. After remaining silent for 5 minutes on the phone in shock - I told him where to jam his greedy money because clearly his priorities for the health and care of his children were not even remotely of a concern to him. After hanging up on him, telling him what a bad parent he was (yes I was angry) I offered to pay every medical bill if need be! And informed him that if I was in a “position” to pay the school fees I would! Noting it was “not negotiable” for him that our children attend private school. I was quite happy to send them to the local primary school. I was outraged he could even consider that a medical appt would be an inconvenience to him. I’d also like to inject here, that whilst I am aware $400 is nothing to sneeze at, and not everyone has this spare! we are talking about a successful business man who has more money than sense. Regardless, if it was the last $400 I had in my bank account I would have spent it on that specialist appt. Going back to my daughter who required a day procedure after she would vomit each night. He bought her to the hospital the morning of the procedure in her school uniform. He intended on dropping her to school after the day procedure (and after having a general anaesthetic) Thankfully again, my daughter was fine and nothing serious was diagnosed. And I was lucky that the]at the Surgeon had a word to him insisting she was NOT to attend school that day Phew! So I was again accused of over reacting and making all this stuff up! The biggest concern to him, being what money he may be out of pocket. Ok so we divorced for a number of reasons. His obsession and drive to be successful at the expense of his family for one. It’s very important to me After a very messy divorce (which did affect our children) that we parent together and get along. Something we have managed to do quite well together the last couple of years. Now this has caused enormous tension between us as I cannot let it go! I feel money has always come before his children/family. I am unable to tell him anymore if one of the children have a day off school as I am hurled abuse for the school fees that have been paid for them not attending. On Thursdays I drop the children to school and he picks them up. On occasions if my children are sick on this day, I have to send them to school anyway and tell the kids to go straight to sick bay, so the school can call me to pick them up. I am terrified of the abuse I will get for allowing them to stay home from school. He feels they need to toughen up and unless they are dying, they attend school. I’m losing sleep over this, and I am honestly terrified to keep the children home if I feel they aren’t well enough. On one occasion , I had to make my child lie to him, telling him they did go to school. What sort of Mum does that?? :( Yes I have spoken to the school, and it’s hard to not feel like the bitter ex wife having a crack at her ex husband. But now he’s making me question if infact I AM over reacting about my children’s health. I honestly don’t know what to do.

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Milonhoney · 08/10/2018 18:30

@DianaT1969 I’m here for advice. If it’s too long for you to read don’t read it. No need to comment. Why do peoole have to be negative to people trying to reach out for help?

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mogratpineapple · 08/10/2018 18:33

Are you US based? If UK based you need to take the children out of private school/medical. If you are in America I don't feel I can comment.

pog100 · 08/10/2018 18:36

Of course you aren't over reacting, any proper patent would be caring just like you, if not even more cautious. He is clearly a controlling, money obsessed idiot to make the remarks he has. If you are genuinely bit bothered about using the local school u would seriously consider it. It seems school fees are being used as ammunition. You need to make more of a stand against him I'm afraid, however uncomfortable it might me. He sounds pretty horrible.

SunflowerJo08 · 08/10/2018 18:42

Tell him in no uncertain terms that as the person who does the bulk of the parenting, these kinds of decisions are down to you. If he was more approachable and supportive, he could gladly have a share in them, but as he isn't, tell him very clearly that if he has attendance concerns he should take them up with the school.

Milonhoney · 08/10/2018 18:44

@pog100 I’m afraid I can’t remove them from their schooling without both parents permission. Unfortunately legally I’m bound due to family court orders in place there. I can take a stand with him personally, and then watch my children suffer as we go through hell again and have him speak poorly of me to them. I feel it’s a no win. And it upsets me he continues to control me even after years of divorce.

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heyjude12 · 08/10/2018 18:48

DianaT1969 that was just nasty and unnecessary. Op i think that it is very unreasonable of him to behave like that. Can you get any mediation as anyone with any sense will surely tell him what a terrible father he is being in regards to the children's health needs

user1492863869 · 08/10/2018 18:54

Sounds like he was in a grump about having to do actual parenting. The money is irrelevant. I assume you have an agreement in place to cover school fees and medical, so it is a sunk cost. I expect it is the loss of a day's work that is getting to him.

I would just ignore this outburst. You are divorced so his moods and stress are not your problem nor is his inability to cope with a day off work. A friend once told me that the most liberating thing about being divorced was not having to stand there and listen to the rant. Just walk away because there is no consequence for you.

The GP referred your son so needed to eliminate anything serious that was beyond his/her skills. They don't do this for the fun of it. He should have been glad and relieved his son had no serious condition ffs.

He has a problem with his stress and temper. But you don't need to pacify him. I would limit communication to the bear minimum. Feel sorry for this man but don't get sucked into his warped world

Stillme1 · 08/10/2018 18:57

Your Exh is abusing you and the DCs. He is dictatorial and menacing. You might need to consider not allowing contact at all. He may well return with no more money but if you were happy for DC to go to the local school then you don't need the private school.

I am not sure about the USA systems of schools and hospital/medical care but there must be some other way. I would rather try to make a suggestion rather than be snippy. I hope there is some way of getting through this situation. Good luck

Olderbyaminute · 10/10/2018 16:15

You did nothing wrong! Your ex,however, is a real son of a bitch! He doesn’t want to be a father he just wants to reserve the right to critique you! Who the hell expects a child who undergoes general anesthesia to return to school immediately after? You shouldn’t feel defensive or in the wrong-if the bastard truly has issues with your kids going to a specialist tell him to fuck off you were advised to do so by their doctor so he can speak to them or go to fucking medical school! You are doing remarkably well! Occasionally my dh tells me I always jump to worst case scenario and I’ll ignore him if my motherly gut instinct goes off about our kid (I’m an RN also) and he’s had to apologize more than once when I’m proven right

Cawfee · 10/10/2018 17:25

Presumably he knows the medical practitioner referred him? They followed the correct procedure as it could have been an inner ear infection that needed antibiotics. You know this isn’t about the money right? It’s just an opportunity to bully you and dominate. If it was me, I’d send him a message “further to our discussions please note that the only reason our son saw the specialist is because his ear was leaking MUCUS that the GP could not diagnose. It was on HER specialist recommendation and HER booking that the additional appointment took place. I am not a medical expert and neither are you. This incident is not about you or about me but about being a responsible parent and following medical advice. It’s interesting to hear that you think you know better. Please forward a copy of your medical degree certificate at the earliest opportunity so that I can apologise and refer to you in the future. If you don’t have a medical degree then I expect an apology for your offensive behaviour. I also highly recommend you seek professional therapy for your strange and weird views on these things. There will undoubtedly be more medical issues that need to be sorted with our kids in the future (kids get sick. It’s life dude) so I urgently recommend you seek professional advice on how to deal with this in the future” of course you could just ignore the huge bullying twat, have a glass of wine and breathe a massive sigh of relief you don’t have to live with him anymore

curlykaren · 10/10/2018 19:03

Can you ask the school to write to you both saying that sending the children to school when they are sick will result in sanctions? So for example, if the child arrives in school with flu or tonsillitis and the school nurse estimates that this illness would normally take 5 days of recuperation, the child will not be allowed back into school before that period is up? I've no idea how cooperative they would be though. Presumably, you sending your child to school when unwell, is disadvantageous to the other pupils?

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