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High School BF wants to reconnect - Do I swerve to avoid drama with his wife?

55 replies

DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 11:21

Gonna be long as I don’t want to drip feed…

An old high school best friend of mine recently got back in touch and I am unsure if it is wise to re-open that can of worms (for want of a better phrase)

We were best mates in high school, got on like brother & sister (honestly never thought it would go any further than that, e.g. we often joked how we would be Best Woman or Man of Honour at each other’s weddings). But he and his family moved out of the area and so he went to a different college. He only moved an hour and half away so we still met up frequently at weekends and texted/skyped all the time.

A week into moving into the new area he met, his now pregnant wife, and they soon started dating. We hit it off also, she said it was great he kept in touch with his friends back from high school and she even invited me to birthday party / house parties etc.

But not long things turned sour between us, she said she didn’t believe girls and guys could just be friends and she frequently would send odd messages, internet stalk me, try and trip me up using my friend’s social media accounts.

Obviously, I tried to just ignore this all, but then she confessed to me she cheated on my best friend (she seemed so sincere and genuinely like she turned to me for help). I didn’t know what to do (I was only 17 at the time!) so I told her she should tell him or I would. I foolishly confided in a mutual friend for advice about whether I should tell our friend. Of course, this friend just went ahead and told our friend what had been said.

Turns out it was all a lie, another trick that I feel for this time. The girl hadn’t gone near this guy who she told me she cheated on, in fact he hadn’t in been in the country. So, I wiped my hands. My friend did seem happy with this girl (they are married now so clearly worked out well!) so I said I’ll say goodbye to them both as it was taking a massive toll on my mental health and wasn’t fair on anyone (I had lost most of my other friends back at home because they all believed I made the cheating story up!)

To cut a long story short, throughout college and uni this girl continued to online stalk me and occasionally she, or one of her friends/sister, would give me a bit of social media abuse. Now and then I would even get a phone call, despite changing my number multiple times. My mental health seriously suffered from all this. I think what made it worse too was that I really needed a best friend, like the one I had, as uni was a shit experience for me.

Roll on to now, a few years out of uni. The social media harassment has died down. But I did get them both following me on my new Instagram a year ago. I didn’t think too much of it, just hoped if I ignored them no drama would happen. But then rolled in the facebook requests. (FYI reason I didn’t have these blocked was because in past I found it just caused more drama). I accepted them and no further contact was made.

Occasionally they would like or maybe comment something nice on a post/image. Having a look at them, they both seem very well settled and have grown up a lot.

They’ve recently announced their pregnancy and so I commented “congratulations and good luck” which I think has sparked my old best friend to get back in touch with me.

We have been chatting a bit, here and there over messenger. But I just feel so worried it might all back fire.

DH doesn’t want me to talk to him due to the mental health issues the girl has caused in the past, so I haven’t told him I replied to his first message. Now I feel like I am lying to my DH!

But I do recognise people grow up and change. I think back to the way I behaved when I was with my Ex and just cringe! These two have been together nearly 10 years now so surely they are comfortable with each other that me and my old best friend could reconnect?

Then again, I have amazing friends now, a great DH and DS too so do I need more people with potential drama in my life?

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SilverHairedCat · 08/10/2018 11:25

Avoid. You've said a nice congratulations, leave it there. He's married someone batshit, that's his decision. I doubt she's changed.

Move on.

letsdolunch321 · 08/10/2018 11:28

NO, you don’t need new drama in your already satisfied life.

What positives can these people bring to your life?!?! I would forget about the old friend and move on.

HereIgoagainxx · 08/10/2018 11:34

I think you would be mad to re-engage with your friend while he is with this woman.

If she found out, I'd say she would escalate the abuse.

Your friend may have seen her for the insecure, meddling and vindictive woman she is and want support, but he has other people for that.

Bitrustyandbusty · 08/10/2018 11:38

It sounds like your friend married someone with narcissistic tendencies and you trusted her, didn’t see it, he probably doesn’t see it. Now you know she was a manipulative liar for her own ends, likely using the fallout to be a victim/martyr and eliminate you, just leave it. Otherwise it (she) will mess with your head. You can only help your friend when/if he sees it for himself.

Stand firm.

Bitrustyandbusty · 08/10/2018 11:42

Good point hereIgoagainxx.

Even if he sees it, only fully engage and support fully if you feel you can spare the emotional energy. Otherwise, you can stay on the sidelines, as a rather distant cheerleader. But you can let him know you are there, without giving too much of yourself meanwhile.

Cheeseandwin5 · 08/10/2018 11:42

People may change and grow and good luck to your friend if his wife has but I don't think you need the stress to find out if that is the case. You would always be on edge and be doubting yourself on all comments they made, the repercussions if its not would be very difficult too. Be happy with your live as it is and leave the drama in the past.
Also you say you feel like you are lying to your DH, well in fact you are. you don't have to agree with his advice but you should keep him informed as if it all goes crazy again he will be caught up.

Musti · 08/10/2018 11:45

She sounds like trouble. Look at the lengths she went to to make you out to be a liar. And for her and her friends to stalk and abusive you on social media just because you were friends with her boyfriend is incredible. I feel sorry for your friend with a wife like that.

HereIgoagainxx · 08/10/2018 11:56

Yes, I pity your friend, too. But it wouldn't be enough to hurl myself back into the lion's den

DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 12:00

Thank you all for your advice, all of which is to not engage!

Shall I just let this conversation going on between us fizzle out naturally or just stop replying from now?

It is a shame because he was an amazing friend, he is hilarious and actually I think him and DH would get on like a house on fire.

There is no way she doesnt know we are talking, unless how their relationship functions has dramatically changed. I recall she had access to his social media (its why we always text and how I knew it was her pretending to be him on social media as he said he would never contact me via there as she has access). God, yea just remembering all this reminds how crazy she was (is?)

Has anyone else met someone like this?

My family used to think I was making this shit up until my sister was over one time at uni and saw the social media attack unfold one evening!

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DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 12:10

His last message was "thank you for replying btw, wasn't sure if you would, I haven't anyone else to talk to" ...

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PurdysChocolate · 08/10/2018 12:11

You are crazy to be engaging with him. Given the level of stalking before, I think there is a very high chance his wife will start harassing you again. I can't believe you have let them on your Facebook!

I presume your friend turned a blind eye to all her behaviour the first time round?

I would stop replying, and block or at the very least unfollow. Certainly stop commenting on their bloody posts! As long as he is with her it is too dangerous to pursue any sort of relationship.

PilarTernera · 08/10/2018 12:11

Just stop replying. The interaction is already causing you problems in that you are concealing things from your DH.

Your life has moved on. He may have been an amazing friend, but he is part of your past. He is choosing to stay in a relationship with someone who has been abusive to you. Keep him in the past and focus on your present and future with DH and DS.

PurdysChocolate · 08/10/2018 12:12

How do you even know you are talking to him and not her?

DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 12:17

PurdysChocolate no he didnt to begin with, it caused major upsets between them both because he was always defending me. I know that even with the time she made me out to be a liar he had his doubts that I really made it up as he said so. But I suppose he loves her so sees more positives than negatives!

Also you are right, I have no clue it isnt her sending me those messages even now tbf!

PilarTernera yeah thank you. I dont need this stress whilst we are still TTC #2

I guess I am looking back with rose tinted glasses, feeling bad for an old friend etc.

Should have added that we all now live and work in the same area.

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Heidimay · 08/10/2018 12:25

Your friend has been with this batty lady for over ten years, so he's obviously not able to see (or is ignoring) what she's really like. I don't believe she will be different this time and when she does start making a nuisance of herself he won't do anything and you're likely to come out of this situation feeling very stressed out. I would just ignore any messages you receive from him until it fizzles our. I know it's not nice to feel like you've lost your friend but I don't believe this friendship can work properly. Having said that, I wouldn't be that surprised if you got a message from him in a few years time saying it was all over and he'd (finally) worked out how crazy she is.

magoria · 08/10/2018 12:26

Give them a wide berth or you are inviting a circus of crazies back into your life.

Racecardriver · 08/10/2018 12:32

Once crazy always crazy. Just tell him you have no hard feelings whatsoever and you with both of them the best and you wanted him to know that. But you think it may be best to leave it at that because you dont want to cause any problems between them (or for yourself like last time). And then don't engage anymore.

DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 14:08

Once crazy always crazy not totally sure if I agree with that statement though because I know I was a bit crazy with my Ex and I certainly wouldnt ever be like that again now Ive matured and seen it was literally just crazy?

Heidimay what if he does see she was crazy and no longer is and thats why he is getting back in touch?

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DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 14:30

So i replied to say hope we have all grown up and wish them both the best etc etc. It was a potential stop in the conversation. He has replied saying they have grown up, it isn't high school anymore etc. He then sent me a photo showing that he has kept a gift I created for him back in High School, he keeps it on the window seal... he said it be nice to keep talking and catch up.

If she was that crazy surely she would have smashed it by now? Wondering now if I am the crazy one?

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Anniegetyourgun · 08/10/2018 14:33

You're a former friend, not a therapist. It is not your job to sort his life/marriage out for him. Doesn't matter how good a friend he used to be. The two of them have caused you a lot of trouble in the past and quite possibly haven't finished yet.

The having no-one else to talk to thing is a bit concerning. Has he really not made any friends in a decade? Is he an orphan? Is he not employed? Isn't he registered with a GP? As you say, you don't know for sure it isn't her setting another weird trap. Send him some helpful links to counselling services and step away quickly.

DaisyFieldLove · 08/10/2018 14:43

He does have friends, well at least theres photos of the two of them always meeting up with friends and going on holidays etc. Unless its because they are mutual friends?

If it was a trap, surely that would mean she would know that gift was something I gave him years ago. I find it hard to believe she hasnt smashed it if she does know its something I gave him?

you are right though Anniegetyourgun I am a former friend not a therapist. Just i feel so bloody nostalgic.

I have told DH. He said he is worried that I am only giving him a chance because he knows I've recently been a bit down myself and he knows I am a bit obsessed with trying to fix things that cant be fixed. bleurh. i know he is right

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iknowimcoming · 08/10/2018 14:51

Sounds like your dh is a keeper to me, unfriend/block/whatever these people and don't engage with them again, ever, at all, it will do you no good and probably cause you harm. You sound like a nice person, just the sort of person these types of loon love to manipulate and take advantage of. Honestly OP draw a line under this and forget about them.

Heidimay · 08/10/2018 15:07

OP I'm a bit skeptical about the idea that she was crazy but isn't any more. It sounds from the description of the ways she tried to trap and trip you up that she's the type to be treated with extreme caution. Always! He might well be fully aware what she's like and wondering what the hell he's landed himself with, but that's a discussion he needs to be having with other friends/therapist. I would honestly stay away until you hear there's been a formal breakup (and even then I'd be wary as she sounds like the type to invent some story to blame you for it). You know them, I don't, but it does sound like a situation to stay away from to me

HeavensNoHellYeah · 08/10/2018 15:11

Im dealing with someone just like this. Behaves exactly kike this except shes never been in a relationship with the guy shes like it over.

She is mid thirties. Shes been this way since being a teenager. Her whole life is causing shit like this and sitting bitching about previous dramas shes caused. Eventually everything gets added to the pile of dramas. If you engage she will eventually cause another one until that becomes another story to sit bitching about whilst she moves on to the next person. These people jyst repeat the same crap over and over.

ThatLibraryMiss · 08/10/2018 15:22

Supposing it is him sending you the messages, do you think she knows? And is happy about it?

I reckon she's BSC and you should steer well clear of anyone who's involved with her.