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I'm overracting or should I be really worried about my boyfriend's female friend?

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MutedLandscape · 06/10/2018 15:58

Hi, I really need advice on my current relationship - I will be grateful for any comments, because my head is a mess and I don't know what to do. In short - we are together for about 1,5 year and live together for almost a year. My boyfriend is younger than me - four years younger and I'm 24 years old. He was always supportive, we have a lot in common, but somehow I don't feel somehow secure in our relationship. I am especially worried about his friendship with one girl - I'm not jealous or controlling type, and I would never ask him to stop seeing his friends or choose between them and me, but she makes me uncomfortable. Here a few examples why:

  • he knows her longer than me, when we started dating they knew each other for about a year and were really close. They talked about everything and he used to sleep at ther place sometimes. However, when we started dating he claimed that there was nothing beside friendship between them - they were not interested in each other romantically or didn't sleep with each other. He was the one who introduced her to me and at the beginning I really hoped that I and that girl will become friends, because my boyfriend said many good things about her. But she didn't seem to like me. From the beginning I felt like there is some kind of competition between us, she tried to prove to me that she knows more about my boyfriend than I am and concentrated only on him, ignoring me during our meetings. She would sit next to him all the time, and asked him to go for a cigarette alone to talk etc. It was not easy for me, because I saw how my boyfriend seems relaxed and how good they get along and I became a little jealous, especially that his female friend is really attractive girl. I didn't show my jealousy, but I started questioning why he would choose me over her.
  • Then, there was a party at our apartment and she was invited along with some other friends. I was surprised, as she never (as far as I know) was at our apartment before, but she started to make comments on new furniture ("The shelf was the only thing that you bought for that apartment, everything else was already there?") and I got strange feeling that she was there before, but maybe I was overreacting, because she said also that we have lovely apartment and my boyfriend went down for her, as she didn't know the exact way to our apartment. Furthermore, my boyfriend claimed that he mentioned to her that he bought some things for our apartment and she was never there before. But I started to be wary of her, as she turned to be manipulative and I didn't exactly know what her intentions with my boyfriend really were, so she could just put a impression that she was at our apartment for the first time.
  • I was also worried that my boyfriend deleted all his messages from her (I found out by accident, when he was showing me some pictures from her and there was only a few messages from the last few days). He claimed that he knew at that moment that I'm jealous of her and once (I know, I should be ashamed) I read few messages from her behind his back and confessed to him about it. I violated his privacy and he was really mad, so he deleted all messages, so I would not snoop again, especially when I was jealous of that girl, and I would misunderstand some messages, as my boyfriend claims, and he would rather avoid that kind of situation. But again, he claimed that there was nothing between them and I shouldn't worry about there deleted messages.
  • There was also a few nights when he slept at his friend's place, when he and his friends had too much to drink. I thought it is ok, since it was more dangerous for him to walk home in his condition, so he was coming back next morning. But there is one night that I was especially worried of, when he fell asleep drunk in his friends' bed and there would be nothing suspicious about it, except that female friend claimed that she came to the room where my boyfriend was sleeping in the middle of the night and tried to wake him up, because "she was worried if it is ok for him to sleep in other place than his place". My boyfriend doesn't even remember if she was waking him up, he only remembers when he fell asleep and when we woke up and went to our place. But knowing her, I wouldn't say that she was suddenly so worried about our relationship or whatever, and she had other intentions in waking him up. I wonder if something happened between them back then, especially as she teased him if he don't really remember the moment of waking him up. My boyfriend claims that nothing happened, and he wasn't that drunk to not remember if something happened, he was just really sleepy and thus doesn't remember when she was waking him.
  • Last thing, it is also situation from a party that we attended. I forgot about one thing - my boyfriend and that girl have no longer much contact, as she turned to be bad person, and my boyfriend claimed that I was right about her from the beginning. They sometimes see each other at parties, but beside that I believe that they have no contact. And now, she is even worse than when I met her - she has a boyfriend and still have many one night-stands, she already slept with almost every guy from their friends' circle, she is really provocative and my boyfriend claims that he is sick of her promiscuous behaviour and that she doesn't care if someone gets hurt, as she seduces even taken guys. To the point - we went to the party and I got really mad at her, and how she behaved around my boyfriend. He tried to ignore her, but she was laughing loudly when he said something funny or not, tried to touch him "accidently" many times, but I found especially disgusting her gestures - when she knew that he is sitting next to me and sticked her butt almost in his face when she tried to open the window (and it is not my imagination, someone else claimed that her behaviour and gestures were slutty and it was obvious what her goal is) or other time she "accidently" dropped something on the floor and she leaned to lift it in a really sexual manner - my boyfriend was sitting in front of her, and she spread her legs as much as she could when she leaned across and was looking directly at my boyfriend as it was some kind of invitation? I know that my boyfriend was trying to ignore her, but later on I felt sick and asked my boyfriend if we could come back earlier, because I'm not feeling well. He took me back to our apartment, but was really mad that we had to leave earlier, as she wanted to spend more time with his friends. But I started being worried that maybe he wanted to come back to that party because of this girl? Maybe her obvious flirty behaviour made him want her, because she is really attractive and many guys are attracted to her, so why if my boyfriend likes this kind of behaviour and likes his interest in her?

I really don't know what to do, I'm uncomfortable when she is around my boyfriend and I'm afraid that she will seduce him someday. I know that he doesn't seek any contact with her, and he claims that I shouldn't be worried about her, but somehow I am. I want to trust him, but isn't it all a little bit strange?

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Bluntness100 · 06/10/2018 16:04

Eh, yeah it is a bit strange, ,,,and immature.

If he wanted to be with her he would. Really that's it.

Notacluewhatthisis · 06/10/2018 16:11

You have posted about this before.

You were destroying yourself then over whether he remembered her waking him up when he was drunk or not.

This is all ages ago. If you think he has slept with her and you think he is lying about it. Then finish with him

You need to let it go or leave him. Because if you don't he will leave you.

MutedLandscape · 06/10/2018 16:19

So you think that there is nothing between them and I should just believe him?
I know that he is with me, but I still have that impression that he was sleeping with her/still sometimes does, because she is attractive, but is not a girlfriend material.
I just want to enjoy my relationship, and trust him, but I don't know if I can. Otherwise, maybe I should really break up with him...

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TheDarkPassenger · 06/10/2018 16:20

I have a male equivalent of this friend of yours, never even thought so much as kissing him. My partner befriended him, his partner fucking hates me and now I barely get to see him. It’s fucking shit!

meowimacat · 06/10/2018 16:24

I haven't read all your post but as I was in this situation with the guy I was seeing having a female friend I asked on here and the majority told me I was crazy for being jealous. Well, turns out they were sleeping together all along. Go with your gut. If it makes you uncomfortable now, it will in the future. You cant change his friendships so if he's willing to stick with her over you, you have your answer.

Oddcat · 06/10/2018 16:27

Relationships shouldn't be so angst ridden . You're both very young ( was he only 18 when you moved in together?) and I doubt this will last tbh.

Bluntness100 · 06/10/2018 16:29

Op, your main issue seems to be she's attractive. This seems to be what's causing your envy.

Your boyfriend is only 21 they have been friends for a long time, and I doubt she's a friend with benefits from what you've said, it seems more you're just envious of her looks.

He doesn't need to be in a relationship. He can be single. He doesn't need to be in a relationship with you. He is choosing to do so. But if you continue with your jealous behaviour, I suspect he will change his mind.

AnnieAnoniMouse · 06/10/2018 16:37

Dump him.

Move on.

MutedLandscape · 06/10/2018 16:38

I agree with all your opinions, and I agree that he is with me now, but people in relationship sometimes cheat or have an affair outside the relationship, so I shouldn't worry about all these situations and be the best girlfriend for him?
And then maybe be laughed at by him and her on how naive I am?

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Bellendejour · 06/10/2018 16:46

My DP’s friend has a nightmare fiancé. She’s all over all of his friends all the time - stroking arms and chest, putting her arms around them, hugging them etc etc. It’s so bizarre and obviously stands out as no one else behaves like that. One of DP’s longstanding friends has fallen out with him over it as he thinks she’s bad news and DP’s friend has obviously taken the side of his fiancé.

My DP had mentioned it to me, but I assumed she wouldn’t be like that in front of me - I was wrong. Fortunately we were all pretty hammered so I was kind of too drunk to get angry. But afterwards I thought it was shitty behaviour and said to DP how disrespectful it was and how he could have handled it better eg moving away etc.

I decided I can either hang out with them and get on with it, or avoid them as much as possible and just let DP go (I’m pregnant now so can’t even drink my way through it). I’m not really interested in making friends with someone disrespectful plus she drinks and crazy amount and I’m really just not keen on them as a couple. So I avoid most of the meet ups, and will just attend the odd one every six months or year or so. Drama cancelled!

So those are your choices really, either still see her and think ‘it’s pretty tragic behaving that way’ and feel sorry for her or just avoid her altogether. But don’t let your jealousy eat up your relationship and cause arguments all the time. Because if that’s the case she’s winning anyway.

Bluntness100 · 06/10/2018 16:50

Op, at 21 normally they just dump you if there is someone they prefer. It's really not a case of a lifetime toghether and kids and complexity causing affairs.

You don't need to be the best girlfriend, that sounds highly immature, you just need to be you.

Notacluewhatthisis · 06/10/2018 16:52

Of course people cheat. That doesn't mean we all spend all our time being anxious about it.

If you don't trust him not to cheat or be honest. You shouldn't be with him. It's simple.

Bluntness100 · 06/10/2018 16:55

It's not about the boyfriend though is it. If you read rhe op, it's all about this female friend. Hence why this is about jealousy.

MutedLandscape · 06/10/2018 16:56

Bluntness100, my first boyfriend was around 21 and he, in fact, didn't dump me, but cheated for a few months and I'm sure he would continue it for longer, but I found out and I don't want to end in such situation again, it was really humiliating - you're right, it would be easier if people would only dump themselves if there is someone better.
But maybe I'm overreacting and looking for red flags, because I was cheated before.

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LusaCole · 06/10/2018 17:07

OP, you say in your post that you're not the jealous type. But the rest of your post comes across as very jealous!

By that, I don't mean to say that you have nothing to worry about and your boyfriend definitely hasn't been unfaithful to you. It's possible that he had.

All I'm saying is that it's not healthy to carry this much jealousy and suspicion around with you the whole time. Either you need to face the fact that you are a jealous person, and try to work on this before it ruins your relationship; or, if you really are sure that you're not a naturally jealous person, then the alternative is that he is not the right person for you as he doesn't try hard enough to make you feel secure.

MutedLandscape · 06/10/2018 17:13

I know I'm ruining my relationship over this friend, and maybe that's what she wants. I don't know what actually to do, because some people pointed that I'm really naive, because he deleted all these messages from her, so he probably had something to hide.
But on the other side, what if I'm ruining my relationship over nothing? What if we break up because of all this and he is innocent? I don't even want to bring up these topics with him, because I know he will be angry that I'm accusing him of cheating and it will only worsen things between us.

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Bluntness100 · 06/10/2018 17:31

Well right now, I'd go with innocent till proven guilty as I can't see what he's done wrong.

Armchairanarchist · 06/10/2018 17:31

I have a male best friend. We've been incredibly close for twenty five years. He's had partners come and go and some have been insecure about our relationship. They tend not to last. I love him as a friend but wouldn't want to be his partner. My husband of twenty three years trusts me and they are great friends now. They socialise together without me regularly.

Notacluewhatthisis · 06/10/2018 17:47

You have no idea what she wants. And this is nothing to do with her.

It's all to do with you and your insecurity.

lizzie1970a · 06/10/2018 18:03

I've also read this before - she mentioned the wardrobe in the first one. What more advice would you need after getting advice from other people before.

Meganc559 · 06/10/2018 18:06

Just because they re young doesn't mean they re not gunna last,
Guys are very different to girls and yes at that age they re usually only friends with girls incase rhe chance of a shag comes up.
I would be careful of this girl and talk to your man about how you feel about the whole thing, if he cares about you he would totally limit contact and not see her especially without you there.
Jealousy is really common at the start of relationships, I was 18 when I met my man and 3 years on our jealousy on both sides has improved immensely.

Good luck with whatever you decide x

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/10/2018 18:11

Split up with him, or trust him and forget about her. There are no other choices. Because what you're doing now is shit.

And I'd have dumped you for looking at messages between me and a friend. That's really bad.

Personally I think you should just leave this relationship. You're very young and it's not healthy. And hasn't been for ages.

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Gemini69 · 06/10/2018 18:26

here's the thing OP...... If I felt this insecure about a female friend of my partners.. I'd be leaving.. not because I don't trust him.. but because of how it was affecting my own mental well being... my mental health matters more to me than my partners friendship with another woman... I hope that helps Flowers

RavenLG · 06/10/2018 18:35

Honestly this all sounds so very juvenile. Are you both emotionally ready for a serious relationship as there seems a lot issues that really don’t have any place in a relationship. Ultimately if you don’t trust him your relationship will never work.