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Friendships with School mums

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Mrsm2812 · 02/10/2018 20:08

This might sound a bit odd but two years ago my first child started school. Obviously it’s a big thing and all very new when your child starts primary school and in my case, I don’t know many mums or parents at the school. My sister and a couple of friends had warned me prior to all this about being wary which School mums I made friends with and how they can be a ‘different breed’ etc. Obviously you can’t generalise like that, but anyway... My child started school and began to be invited to parties almost straight away in the first year and it was mainly at parties that I got to know a few ‘nice’ School mums. In particular, there were 4 of us who I thought had formed a good friendship as time went on and in between working we would get together for coffee and in the school holidays all get the kids together etc. It was nice. Anyway, advance to nearly the end of the first year at school and it all changed. One of the group of 4 was not being treated very nicely by the other two, who had started to talk about her behind her back and be quite bitchy and nasty. I didn’t like this and wasn’t keen on what was going on. Basically two of the mums became like a very bitchy two faced two-some who seemed to all of a sudden have a real problem with the other mum. Then there was me stuck in the middle. One of the mums went as far as reporting the other mum in our friendship group to school over neglect of her child, which really was outrageous. I don’t know what happened or why it became like this but it became clear to me by the end of that first school year that I didn’t want to be part of any of this and that these women were not people
Who I wanted to be friends with. I am still friends with the one mum in the group who got reported and who was very clearly sort of ‘picked on’ by the other two mums. I completely distanced myself from the other two and then it was school holidays and I didn’t see or contact them but they did contact me to ask why I was ignoring them
and I was polite about it and said I had been busy etc but sort of made it clear that I didn’t want to be friends. Nothing nasty at all, just that I’d prefer not to meet up or socialise with them anymore. That was the end of that.
It’s a couple of years on and I have made new school mum friends who are lovely. However, nothing is straight forward with School mums. I can’t even explain it. There is one who I consider a really good friend but something really drives me mad. We all have quite boisterous kids and we walk to and from school together each days. Our kids can be sillly at times but they’re all the best of friends. They are typical boys and push and shove each other at times. They don’t hurt each other. Today walking home from School I was watching the kids and one of mine was pushed by my friends child and then my child pushed the child back. So my child was pushed first, and retaliated. When my child pushed hers, he burst into loud exaggerated tears and yet he had pushed my child first. I of course made my child apologise and told my child they shouldn’t be doing that and we walked home separately from them. But there was a few of us mum friends stood together at the time and the child who burst into tears was cuddled by his mum and she was giving it ‘my poor baby’, while another of my mum friends was looking at my child like they had done something terrible. This is always what happens. Basically my child got pushed too but because mine doesn’t cry like a baby, he always comes off looking worse or like the bad child. It happens so often on the walk to or from school as kids mess about and I feel like it’s aleays this good friend of mine who thinks her kid is an angel when it’s just not the case.
I’m sorry for the long story, I just feel disappointed that it seems it’s so hard just to meet and make a few new School mum friends to have a cup of tea with or get together with now and again.
Is it always like this with School mums? Are they a breed on their own or is it just me? I just felt so fed up of being looked at like the mum with a naughty kid that we walked home on our own. Can anyone else relate at all to this?

OP posts:
Chottie · 02/10/2018 20:13

Maybe just don't walk home with these mums and their children?

onetenhundred · 02/10/2018 20:15

I've got two really close mums from school and the rest I am on friendly terms with but I prefer to get in and get out. I don't hang around chatting most days.

Cawfee · 02/10/2018 20:22

Blimey. I have kids at school and it’s not this hard! We certainly don’t have the time or inclination to walk to or from school with a group like that every single day! I like to spend that alone time with my kids! Why are you so heavily involved? You know they aren’t going to be at school forever right? There are other things in life and other friends? What happens when primary school finishes or they get to year 4/5 and can walk in by themselves? At the moment you are focusing on people who the only thing you have in common is your kids are in the same school. That’s why these friendships are fragile and break easily. They ain’t real. If there’s all of that pushing and drama going on then it’s not appropriate to be putting your kids through that. Go and make new real friends that will outlast your kids school days!!

carpettile · 02/10/2018 20:24

It’s interesting with the School Mum thing as ultimately most of our friends are School mums but not neccassarily the same school . So why do we have issues with the ones at our own school gates. Everything you describe was my experience met 3 mums , 4th Mum joined and I was the one being picked on and had to stop hanging out. Unlike you the third one has now blanked me I literally posted about this on Sunday.

It’s even more difficult if the kids are involved as some mums wear their fierce love like a badge of honour and no way can their child be to blame .

So in this situation do u like this Mum a lot if so I wouldn’t the kids come between you . Although in my experience trying to have a conversation about probably won’t go well ! They kids will grow up and that kind of thing will naturally become less and less

Teabay · 02/10/2018 20:28

There are a hundred mum's in the playground and the only common denominator for all of them is that they have DC.
Would you consider that you'd be friends with 100 randomers shopping in Tesco on Saturday?
You'll find one or two that you click with, like in any work place, and the rest are friendly but not really friends. You are ok, OP, you are NORMAL!!

Samantha2018 · 02/10/2018 20:41

I say hello to the mums I recognise and walk to and from school with DD I couldn't be bothered with all that!

holasoydora · 02/10/2018 20:43

I feel the same tbh. I haven't found it easy to have school mum friends and don't really have a proper set of friends, the odd one or two. I also don't really get asked to social stuff, even by mums I consider myself on good terms with! I have often wondered if it is me/my kids but we have plenty of other friends and are nice people! Kids are popular-ish. But the mum's just seem to be polite not 'friends'.

I have taken to running in and out and hanging around with my kids by myself. I know enough people to have a general chat if the situation arises. My kids still get asked to play dates, it doesn't seem to make much difference and is less stressful for me. I am working full time at the moment and it's quite nice to avoid it! I always thought I would be a 'school gate mum', but I think I chose the wrong school...

Mrsm2812 · 02/10/2018 21:38

Thanks everyone who has responded so far, you have all been very helpful and it’s interesting to read. I definitely think I picked the wrong school, and some of the comments above have given me a lot to think about. I was working full-time and then went to working part time aftervhsvjng my youngest child. I then took the decision to be a stay at home mum and as yet haven’t gone back to work, which is why I suppose it’s nice (or I thought it was nice) to have school mum friends who you can get together with for a cup of tea and a natter. But in all honestly it feels like the mums are the kids in the playground sometimes.
I have another mum friend whose child hits everyone in the class all the time, every day and always on ‘thinking time’, yet I don’t say anything to that mum about it. I just hoped these friendships a second time round would be easier that the first set of mums who I made friends with.
Teabay - Thank you. I like to think I’m a very normal friendly person. I just don’t want the stress or drama from something like a friendship which should be easy.
Cawfee - what you say is absolutely right, I shouldn’t be so heavily involved. I think I need to detach myself a bit.

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holasoydora · 02/10/2018 22:33

By the way I also totally get it about the friends who think their kids are angels (and aren't) and you being the one to tell your child off. Very familiar...

Could you consider going back to work part time, as you obviously like company? I like the social aspect of work more than anything I actually do.

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