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Please help me find some strength here

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nc3005 · 02/10/2018 08:54

Name changed for this because my anxiety is in full swing today and I don’t want to get outed. I would really appreciate some help, I’m sittjng at work on the brink of another anxiety attack and I need someone to hand me a big fucking grip. Sorry this is long I just need somewhere to open up.

My once wonderful fiancé and I argue so much. At the weekend we had three fights in one day, I don’t even remember what about. The week previous we had a blazing row while on a weekend abroad that involved him saying he wanted to postpone our (booked) wedding. I got so frustrated and panicked I felt like I was crazy. When we fight like that I don’t know what comes over me but I feel so devastated. I cry, panic. I self harm afterwards (just minor stuff. I feel ashamed of it but when we are not fighting I either feel so mixed up about what has just happened or I am on edge for the next fight.) and it always happens. We can have a wonderful day/week/month then one thing will be said wrong, done wrong. Last night he was out on a work dinner and got smashed, called me all lovey dovey as he can be really affectionate when drunk and I joked that I could tell he was drunk. He turned instantly, went cold, threatened to hang up. I was shocked by the quick change, asked him what was wrong, he said I said he was embarrassing, I knew what I had said but he just gaslighted the fuck out of me and it’s not the first time. In recent arguments he’s claimed I’ve said something I know I haven’t, or that he hasn’t done/said something I know he has. I don’t know what will set him off anymore. Dc saying they want me to read him their bedtime story (instead of him.) Me not wanting to watch the same movie as him. Me asking him not to shout at dc. Me saying something the wrong way really or if he feels like I’m calling him into question on anything . I feel like I’m on eggshells especially now he has the engagement/marriage to wield over me in arguments. I hate that I get so upset when he’s like this, it just makes him angry and he accuses me of manipulating or “not being normal”. I just always feel so destroyed by the arguing, by how quickly he can go from “you’re the love of my life darling” to coldness. Afterwards he often says he feels like he can’t control his anger and he knows he has anxiety/depression but he has yet to sign up to our local GP because I haven’t picked up a signup form for him. MH issues run in his family. He hasn’t had a LTR before me so I’ve often wondered if he has had to learn how to be in a relationship or whether this is sonething more innate to him.

I guess I used to think he was the one. Perfect, lovely, my safe harbour after years of EA relationships with my parents and exes. I know I started to fall out of love a couple of months ago when it became clear how angry he got if I disagreed, and how quickly he could flip and withhold affection, how long and hard he could sulk. I started to get my ducks in a row- cancelled unnecessary expenses, changed my work life to fit around dc childcare, squirrelled money away. He knew I was being distant and we talked about it, I tried so hard and I had been beginning to feel like I could relax and love him again, just relax and stop worrying that I was going to be on my own again and have to cancel the wedding and everything else.

But now I just don’t know if I can. I’m terrified of marrying the wrong man. For dc and my sake. I feel like there’s little I can say that doesn’t have to go through a filter to avoid upsetting or irritating him. I feel like I don’t know where the next argument comes from.

A really normal example would be dc getting up early ish on a weekend and waking him up. He’d then be tired and moody, snap at dc too harshly and I’d ask him to calm down or quietly intervene. This would trigger him off in fury that there’s nothing wrong, he’s fine (alll said in an angry voice/body language), that I’m saying he can’t do anything right, that he’s “obviously” shit with dc. Every time a confrontation like this happens it’s like a gut punch. I do what I can to diffuse but it rarely works.

Im so sick of:
“Yeah you’re right I’m a piece of shit”
“Yeah I’m a shit partner I can’t do anything right”
“It’s not normal that you get so upset”
“You’re not strict enough with dc”
“Dc is manipulative”
“I don’t want to get married and then get divorced in a year” / “we should postpone the wedding”
“There’s NOTHING WRONG!” (In denial of the tone/mood)
“You’re always putting the blame on me”
“What are you talking about?”

The guys I work with, my brothers and a lot of male friends are solid, they don’t binge drink, they reason, they don’t make filthy comments and jokes and call me a prude, they are kind to children. He must have been like that for me to love him so much but I feel like I’ve forgotten. I feel like I’m scared of him. But I’m ashamed that I’m more scared of being alone. Making ends meet (the wedding payment has decimated my savings), my job is insecure at the moment due to redundancies, help with dc, companionship, someone to share the load. I feel like at my age and situation this would be it for me. I feel helpless. I’m sittjng in the toilet at work feeling sick to look at my phone as he hasn’t apologised for last nights drunk escalation, just texted to tell me I shouldn’t have reacted so upset. He can be generous, sweet, loving with me and dc. I’m not denying that.

But this panic and stress is grinding me so far down and I don’t know what to do. I just want peace. I don’t want to make this sound one sided but I feel like no one hears my side, I feel like I could scream with frustration. Please tell me what to do and how.

OP posts:
Singlenotsingle · 02/10/2018 09:02

He's right about the wedding. Neither of you are in a good place, and getting married is the last thing you should be thinking about! In fact, he's what we call a headfuck. Get some help - counselling, Relate? He needs to go to his GP and see if anything can be done about his MH, because it's affecting yours!!!

Singlenotsingle · 02/10/2018 09:03

And why do you love him anyway? He sounds awful. You can do better!

Itsallaswizz · 02/10/2018 09:08

This isn't right, you need to leave him. When is the wedding booked for? Can you get any of your money back?

AttilaTheMeerkat · 02/10/2018 09:19

Cancel the wedding and end the relationship now. You're being abused so the relationship is at an end anyway. You'd be happier as a single parent to your children; this bloke targeted you probably also because he could sense your fears about being alone.

How did you get to this point in your life?. What did you learn about relationships when you were growing up from your parents?. Counselling for you would be helpful and not with him at all present. Joint counselling is a non starter here anyway due to the various abuses including the gaslighting of you he metes out. There is a reason why he has never had a LTR before now; such men hate women, all of them.

Would suggest you contact Womens Aid here as they can and will also help you leave safely 0808 2000 247. And if you have never completed their Freedom Programme I would suggest you enrol on this too.

You are not responsible for his mental health and he is more than capable of collecting a form from the doctor. He simply does not want to and sees that as your job. He has not tried hard here, you've done all the work in this relationship to keep this sinking ship afloat and its still sinking.

What you are describing here with this man is an abusive relationship.
Do not marry this man; he seems to be out of the same rotten mould as your parents and ex's who I note were also abusive towards you. What you are seeing now will only be repeated if you marry him; this is what he is really like and he is no example to your children either.

Babdoc · 02/10/2018 09:26

Everything Attila said. With knobs on. Please listen to her, OP. You know you are being abused again, you can see this clearly. End it with this shit of a man, stop walking on eggshells round him and his nasty moods and his gaslighting.
You will feel hugely relieved when he’s gone. And you really should get some counselling, so you stop choosing creeps like this as partners. You deserve so much better.

nc3005 · 02/10/2018 10:48

Every time I think my gut instinct about him is right, he either becomes loving again (can be like flipping a switch) or he says I’m the problem. I always want him to change/I always want an argument/I get too emotional. He talks openly about things like gaslighting and emotional abuse so I know he knows what they are. I feel like he accuses me of those things indirectly at times. I am a good person, I keep telling myself I am a kind and generous person, good Mum, I like to make others happy. I’m not perfect but I never set out to be manipulative or hurtful. I know that doesn’t motivate me. I can’t deal with his sulks, they destroy me.

OP posts:
nc3005 · 02/10/2018 10:49

In my gut I also think he doesn’t like women asserting themselves. Their opinions or their dislike of anything.

OP posts:
Ittakestwo · 02/10/2018 11:08

I experienced gaslighting for 25 years it nearly broke me. I had a flash of clarity one day after a panic attack and ended it. Three years later I’m still recovering but much better off. Try and keep calm and look at his behaviour without feeling your emotions I.e if he was your best mates boyfriend what advice would you give her?

hellsbellsmelons · 02/10/2018 11:15

Google
Jeckyll and Hyde abuse
The cycle of abuse

Then contact Womens Aid and talk to them.
They can help you see this for what it is.
They can also help you with an exit plan.

Please leave - fast!!!!

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