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FreshairFriday · 28/09/2018 18:53

If your partner told you they were unhappy in the relationship would you consider seeing a therapist to work on yourself personally? I don't necessarily mean instead of couples counselling but perhaps in addition to it, in order to learn more about yourself and how you function in the world? It strikes me that often, by the time a woman says she's ready for divorce, she's already done a lot of this personal processing and any complaints about the relationship have been ignored/passed over by the man along the way. So that when she says she's ready to leave him, he often only just begins serious processing - if at all. I guess I'm looking to hear that there are men who give a shit. When I got divorced my lawyer told me that in her office 80% of divorces are initiated by women & that 100% of them have a degree of mental health issues. It makes me feel very sad. My own exdh wasn't interested in therapy. He said 'If you've got a problem, that's your problem'. I spent a year in counselling/therapy working on myself before I left. It'd be so nice to hear that there are men out there who would want to do something about it if their wives weren't happy. And I don't mean bending completely to the will of their wives but being able to look at the issues objectively & be willing to work on them.

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missyB1 · 29/09/2018 17:57

I think all relationships need to be worked at but some people don’t seem to realise that. And one person trying to make all the effort on their own is soon going to get fed up! If you communicate to your partner that there are issues (and spell out exactly what they are), then it would be reasonable to expect them to help you work at overcoming those issues. And yes sometimes that does involve individuals having to reflect on themselves and how they behave in relationships.
I think some people are capable of this and will do it, some are too arrogant and can’t believe that they aren’t perfect, and some some are just too bloody lazy.

HelenaDove · 30/09/2018 02:53

"No, and if the thread about shaving legs is anything to go by then a partner shouldn't even ask simple t things."

WOW just wow.

HelenaDove · 30/09/2018 02:56

Keepit good to see you still have your sense of humour. Smile Thanks

HelenaDove · 30/09/2018 03:07

". But it was my fault for being boring, my fault for not doing enough fun things.. tho she never once suggested fun and exciting things to do"

Perhaps she was busy eplilating/shaving/waxing.

CantankerousCamel · 30/09/2018 08:52

People are talking about serious, long term, heart breaking compatibility problems and someone turns up to talk about leg hair...

ShatnersWig · 30/09/2018 11:27

If you're not happy in a relationship, you talk about it. If nothing changes as a result of talking, you leave. It should be about MUTUAL respect and care, not expecting someone to change for the other person - if you've picked the right person to begin with. In my experience by the time a couple is in therapy, it's usually too late, because it's an indication that communication has already broken down or one person hasn't intimated their concerns for ages and ages. Regardless of gender.

DisgraceToTheYChromosome · 30/09/2018 13:27

30 years together next year. It would have been half that if I hadn't got my depression treated, and come to an understanding of where my rage came from. One major lack was spending very little time with women, so I had a) completely saurian attitudes b) no idea of how they thought or made decisions.

I've been very lucky in that DW had no hesitation in kicking my arse repeatedly for bad manners. DD joined in later. She does pursed lips very well.

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