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Now missing my ex - does this ever end?

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wtaf1 · 25/09/2018 17:42

Divorce was not what I wanted (though my ex thinks that for years I wanted the house - which he always refused to have in my name as well as his - to be all mine, and that divorce was my way of achieving that Hmm, but after years of my marriage being very difficult, I jumped over the cliff, and the whole process was as traumatic as I thought it was going to be.

The reasons, as stated on the petition, were that ex showed me no care, physical affection or any interest in me, that he was prone to overreacting to small things and then not speaking to me for weeks, and that he had always refused to put my name on the family home or give me any kind of feeling of security - even hiding a property he had bought for a whole year. It was worded in more detail.

And it was all true. Ex had a short temper and could be very unpleasant. If my response was too much for his ego to cope with, he would then not speak to me for weeks. Using silence as punishment. During that time I would live my life feeling awful, with an awful gnawing pain in the pit of my stomach, able to think of nothing else. Eventually, after weeks and weeks of this, I would send him an email asking him to stop his silence, and he would slowly come out of it. There was never any talking about what had happened. We were only able to talk about the very superficial, because my attempts to do otherwise were always met with defensively being blamed / shouted down.

He had completely lost interest in sex and this had been going on for years. It would be me who always initiated it - maybe every six weeks, but this felt soul destroying. In the year before the episode which ended our marriage for good, we slept together 3 times. Worse than this was the complete lack of affection - never being touched. Lying in bed next to someone who never put their arm around you. Or if I put my arm around him, would lie there completely unresponsive.

And with regards to all big financial decisions, they were all made by him. Though I owned half a small with a relative of mine, the family home was completely in his name, and he refused point blank to have my name on the deeds as well - which would have given me a sense of security. He refused to discuss having a will or life insurance. He had other properties, also in his name, and any choice to invest money in them was only made by him. On one occasion he hid the acquisition of a retail property from me for almost a year until I found out. Because our relationship had been very difficult that year, and I guess he thought he would not have to share an asset that I didn’t know about.

He had a nice side to him, but also a very critical and blaming one, and there was a walking on eggshells element to our relationship - especially at weekends, when he would shower affection on the kids and exclude me completely.

There were things I could have done differently in the relationship, but ex’s behaviour was the one which made any kind of communication and resolution of problems impossible.

Ex first completely ignored and also ridiculed my attempts at talking about splitting up and going to mediation to make it easier. When he realised that I was serious, because he received the petition and I had also made an application to the court for financial remedy (he had in the interim sold a property, and refused to answer any of my solicitor’s questions about it, so she advised me to do this), he tried to manipulate me into not going ahead. That was hard, because part of me would have jumped back into his bed - but I didn’t trust that his niceness would last, and within it he was still managing to say some awful / very manipulative things.

So the divorce process went ahead, and ex reverted to type, on several occasions being extremely unpleasant and aggressively shouting at me / calling me all the names under the sun - in front of one of my dds on two occasions 😡.

We lived in the same house for about 9 or 10 months while it was all going ahead, mostly in complete silence, but it was very stressful. Most of the previous year we had also been completely estranged, following a really nasty outburst of ex’s. So we are now coming up to almost two years of not having spoken at all.

After it became clear that the divorce process was going ahead, ex got into something with somebody almost immediately and I could hear him on the phone for hours, very late at night. He would have showers and go out - bought new clothes and underwear Hmm. This was really upsetting as we were still living together, and it happened almost immediately. I don’t know if they are still together and ex is honest about nothing.

He moved out in April, and our settlement came into effect a few months after. It is fair, but he is resentful. He has chosen to invest some money in a project, and consequently has somewhere to live which is fine in the interim, but not suitable for the dc, and in any case they don’t want to go there.

So he comes to my house every Saturday morning and cooks for the kids - and probably spends about 5 or 6 hours here. I normally go out to facilitate this.

Recently however, I have started a new job which is really full on, and I can’t go out every weekend any more. So last weekend I decided I would stay upstairs and do stuff there. Except that it was depressing and I did nothing. I then heard him ask my lodger/friend if she wanted some of the food he had made - all kind of giggly and kind. She said no (as she was about to go out with me for coffee), but I was upset.

It seems that being ignored in my own home was quite a prevalent feature of my marriage, and yet here I am, still being ignored in my home, and what’s worse, sort of hiding while he is here Angry.

We still do not talk at all - and in fact ex is still being unpleasant about various money related and other matters.

So I emailed him to say that it is okay for him to come over and cook for the dc while I am at work during the week, but at the weekend could he please take them out instead of seeing them here (he does sometimes ask them out, but they don’t always go because they are at the monosyllabic stay in their room stage).

Is this a reasonable thing to have asked?

What do I do if he ignores this and comes over anyway?

What’s more I am nervous now as it was his birthday this week, and he is going to take the dc to eat out this weekend. I am worried that he is going to ask my lodger/friend to come as well.

Added to all of this, I also find myself missing him - or the parts of his personality which I like. I texted him Happy Birthday, but I don’t know why the fuck I did that, as he didn’t answer.

It’s all one big mess, and to be honest I can only see more of the same kind of weird purgatory ahead. One where I feel disliked and the satanic figure who dared to instigate the divorce. He seems to think that I was easily persuaded by my solicitor.

I just don’t know when all of this is going to end. And I have been taken aback by the missing him. I have suddenly realised that I am lonely. The loneliness during my marriage, and my current loneliness both having maximum effect now.

So I imagine these scenarios where we eventually start talking again, but our communication is a lot better.

What am I supposed to do about all of this? If I could jump ship and live far away, I would, but I can’t.

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ahYerWill · 26/09/2018 08:07

The thing about abusive relationships (and this was abusive) is that they keep you on the hook for a long time with the promise of a glorious relationship 'if only'. Except you can never quite meet the standard, as the bar gets moved and inevitably you upset them and suffer as a result of some perceived failure on your part.

You're grieving for this promise of what might have been and imagining if you got back together that's how it might be, not the actuality where he was an unmitigated arsehole.

It's not unusual, and is why so many people find it so hard to break away from these toxic situations.

At the moment you have the worst of both worlds - you still have the shitty him in your life but without the good bits. You need to eject him fully from your life. You can still coparent without him in your house or head.

The website baggage reclaim has some excellent articles on boundaries. It helped me to learn exactly how skewed my beliefs and sense of self had become when I left my abusive ex. When I started to practice having healthy boundaries, so many parts of my life improved, not just my relationships. It may help you learn how to establish boundaries with your ex and create the distance gou need.

Theres also a book called 'why does he do that' which may help you see that this was abusive and not just you not being good enough. Recognising that my ex was a 'known' type of abuser helped me see it was him not me and move on. The abuser types (extract from book) are posted on here somewhere if you search .

wtaf1 · 26/09/2018 08:12

He does semi tidy up after himself. I noticed that he had completely tidied the kitchen this weekend, and cleaned the shower room ceiling, so am now paranoid that he was doing that for the lodger Confused.

It’s all messed up.

I think somewhere I have been labouring under the weird belief that our separation won’t be forever. When I realise that it is, every now and then, the grief is awful. I don’t even know why, this is someone who doesn’t answer the most innocuous logistical text I might send him about the kids.

The horrible feelings of being unattractive and unwanted just go on and on.

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wtaf1 · 26/09/2018 08:12

Missed your post ah. Will read it now.

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springydaff · 26/09/2018 08:40

IT'S not messed up, HE'S messed up -

and a bastard cunt abuser. He's abusing you and endlessly playing you. oh dear god get rid. Get rid of him completely. He is vile.

(Get rid of the lodger too if she's prepared to flirt with him)

Your boundaries seem so poor. Do the Freedom Programme, do it now. Go along to a group at your very earliest.

Get him out of your house. Who gives a fuck if the kids don't want to see him, that's his look out and for him to sort out, not you. What's going on that you would allow this vile specimen into your HOME to abuse you in this way?

Ditch the guilt. This 'man' has treated you appallingly from the word dot, It's up to you to put a stop to that. Start respecting yourself - if you can't do it for you then do it for your kids: watching their mother allow such appalling treatment is teaching them how to conduct their future relationships. Do you want your kids to have relationships like this? You're teaching them how. Save your kids, make them your priority, not him!

Be brave and get rid of him. Do the Freedom Programme.

Adora10 · 26/09/2018 14:08

Jesus, can't believe you even let him over your front door step; he abused you badly and is still doing it, you can't possibly miss that, you just miss having someone there. Sorry but he takes the complete piss because you allow it and he knows this and still calls the shots; he's vile and you need to stand up for yourself, he doesn't give a shit about you, it's just about what he can get from you that benefits him.

wtaf1 · 27/09/2018 19:00

You're grieving for this promise of what might have been and imagining if you got back together that's how it might be,

Yes I agree. I am also grieving for when our relationship was better than it eventually became. It was never perfect, but we were once friends, and the memory of that is somehow indelible and makes me feel like shit.

I also agree that my boundaries need to be a lot clearer.

I feel like I am facing a hard winter. Not wanted by my ex and possibly never to be in another relationship. People call me Madam in shops and nobody, but nobody, gives me a second glance. It just feels sad and I feel cheated.

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ALovelyWoman · 27/09/2018 20:17

OP I agree with others - stop letting him in your house. Your dc are teens, you don't even need to be involved in their interactions wtih their dad. He doesn't need to even come to the house . Interact by email with him only. And only speak about the DCs. The less contact you have with him the less you'll feel messed up by him. Distance will help you.

Counselling too will really help you - with understanding why your boundaries might be shot and how to rebuild them and your self-esteem.

ALovelyWoman · 27/09/2018 20:20

Oh and I'm a similar age to you - I get lots of dates! Get out there when you're ready. It can be a lot of fun.

wtaf1 · 27/09/2018 21:42

Yes, when I went physically very far away this summer, I felt a lot better.

Where / how do you meet people to go on dates with @ALovelyWoman?

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bluebell34567 · 27/09/2018 22:25

i didnt read the whole thread, but;
you dont have to date anyone, just try to build a social environment for your self.
you got rid of him by divorcing him, why you still allowing him to your home and suffer his weird behaviours. what ever the reasons are you shouldnt allow him in or near anywhere to you. he is poison.
as a pp said above you have to have good boundries otherwise you will get hurt again.
as with lodger, if they flirt etc., i believe you have to get rid of her.
you have to be away from this man, you suffered years and years because of him. do you want it to continue?

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