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GrahamBrown · 18/09/2018 12:24

I am shocked when I hear other dads-to-be saying they are really looking forward to their child being born. I’ve even heard other dads saying they enjoyed ‘the adventure of the pregnancy’! I’ve heard other dads-to-be say when they found out their wife was pregnant it was the happiest day of their life. What?!

I’ve read online about fears/concerns that other fathers-to-be have had. Reasons such as; money issues, changing nappies, being a good dad, will the baby love me? etc. I do not have these concerns. The main reason I am not looking forward to it is because of my wife. I think she is going to make my life and her life a living hell.

She is very emotionally unstable. I have informed her that getting really stressed or screaming and shouting is not good for the baby. She won’t listen. We can be in a 5* luxury hotel in an amazing part of the world and she can still be super stressed and angry for days and make it her mission to spoil the holiday. In everyday life she cannot handle small problems or adversity.

A challenging email from a client, an argument with a colleague; losing a bus pass (she said this was the worst thing that ever happened to her), she gets angry, feels sorry for herself, cries, blames me, blames the world, hates the world, but takes no responsibility. She was in therapy for a while to help with these things but then stopped.

After one particular hard day at work she had, I tried to put things into perspective. I told her about I book I was reading, a true story about a US Marine, whose typical deployment would be; friends getting killed, not eating for days, getting seriously injured, the savage heat, the fear that today could be his last, and so on. She then told me how her office job was harder than the US Marines. She was being 100% serious. I am not joking. You cannot reason with someone like that.

I fear that when she is tired, after she has given birth, during the first few months (or years) the above behaviour is going to be even more extreme. God forbid we have any issues or the pregnancy doesn’t go 100% as expected. I want to be there for her but she does not make it easy for me because she makes no effort with me.

For example, for her birthday in the morning I got her a cake, sang happy birthday, made her breakfast. I got her a few small presents all wrapped up, it took me hours to find a great place to take her for a romantic weekend away, but I found somewhere amazing which wasn’t cheap. I wrote and printed out the things we would do on our weekend away. I also organized all her friends to come to her birthday meal, I got her (another) cake and we all sang happy birthday and she had a great time.

For my birthday recently she got me a valentines card and wrote happy birthday in it. I told her about something I wanted, she ordered it using my credit card, we then sent it back as I didn’t like it. She then forgot to get me anything else. I had to remind her a few weeks later that perhaps she should get me something. She told me off, cried then felt sorry for herself – then ordered it – but I felt guilty for reminding her. On the evening of my birthday, we were on holiday and we met up with her family from the area and went out for a meal. I felt really silly because I was thinking ‘I hope they don’t have a cake for me and sing happy birthday! How embarrassing!’(but really hoping they would lol). She and her family didn’t get a cake or anything, no one even said happy birthday. At the end of the day I thanked her for a nice birthday, she looked at me shocked, I think at some point during the day she forgot it was my birthday. Lol.

Lastly I’ve read that it is good when the baby is born that the parents stick to a routine, for the baby’s sake. I have no faith that she will not be able to do this. She is late for work almost every day. She sometimes doesn’t shower for 2 days. She says she will go to the gym but rarely does. If she works from home, she will sleep all day (even before she was pregnant). She says she will eat healthy but does not. She says she will do her morning yoga to help with aches and pains, she never does. She talks a good game but does nothing. I can see no way that my wife will wash every day, eat meals every day, go out and get fresh air each day etc. The result of which will make her feel worse toward a downward spiral.

I cannot talk to my wife about the above issues. If I try and suggest therapy, or that she could make more of an effort in our relationship, or if I try and mention about keeping a routine she will go mad at me, cry, I’ll say sorry, she will then feel sorry for herself and then all will be forgot.

I am here to support her. To do everything I can to help her during this pregnancy and birth. Carrying a baby and giving birth is no small feat, I know this. I will try my best to be strong for her, to love her no matter what. To take it on the chin if she goes crazy at me for no reason, during the ups and downs. I can do all of that and try my hardest and be strong for her. But deep down, the result is I am really not looking forward to having a kid. In the short term at least I see nothing but misery, constant negativity, a dark time where the relationship will be suffocated, how I will be walking on egg shells, how I will have to use every ounce to try and stay strong FOR US, how she will be sleeping all day, going days without washing or leaving the house and feeling sorry for herself.

I am generally a very positive optimistic person, but I am not in control of my wife’s behaviour. I just think some people prefer to be unhappy.

When people say to me ‘congratulations’ or ‘you must be excited’ I honestly do not know what they are talking about.

OP posts:
peachgreen · 18/09/2018 12:31

Why are you married to - and having a baby with - this woman that you so clearly despise?

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/09/2018 12:35

Bloody hell OP. You don’t have to stay with her, you can’t stand her and her behaviour sounds awful. Too late now but given the state of your marriage what seemed good about throwing a baby into the mix?! Was it planned?

You don’t have to stay with someone who makes you miserable. Bailing while she’s pregnant is shit but you know things won’t get any better.

How long have you been married? Why are you married?

PhilomenaButterfly · 18/09/2018 12:37

Do you think you'll get much sympathy on Mumsnet?

AnneLovesGilbert · 18/09/2018 12:38

As it’s a forum for parents hopefully he’ll get a fair hearing. Being a woman or a mum isn’t an excuse for being abusive Hmm

FuckItPassMeTheWine · 18/09/2018 12:42
Biscuit
MMmomDD · 18/09/2018 12:51

OP - why are you married and having a baby with her?

yetmorecrap · 18/09/2018 13:05

If it’s not a joke post, Bloody hell OP, pay what you are due to pay and call it a day

Storm4star · 18/09/2018 13:23

Ok, I'm going to take this post at face value. Yes it is a big question as to why you tried for a baby in the first place but she's pregnant now so no point going back over that.

You can still be a good (maybe even better) dad if you two are apart. I would say almost all the time, when someone writes a post about their relationship problems the OP will still always say at least one positive thing about their partner. In your post there are absolutely no positives, not one.

I would say you two at least need some time apart, even if you don't fully split up. Ultimately yes, it isn't going to look great you "walking out" on a pregnant woman and yes people will probably judge. But it sounds like neither of you are happy. Add the stress of a newborn and that's not a healthy situation for any of you.

springydaff · 18/09/2018 13:34

The sleeping all day and not washing etc could suggest she is depressed. But the constant histrionics have nothing to do with depression.

Unfortunately you're not going to get a fair hearing on here. But the situation sounds so awful you must get some outside help and support - just you, go for therapy.

I'm most concerned about a child being born into this awful relationship. From what you say she completely won't cope with motherhood?

BackInTheRoom · 18/09/2018 16:11

Through all of this I'm sensing she suffers from 'Anxiety'. I'm not remotely as bad as her but I honestly only realised I had it recently and let's just say there are decades behind me! The procrastination might be exacerbated because she is already anxious about an event, occasion, a situation, so she has problems actually starting something. Hey, I'm not making excuses for her, I just felt I needed to share my revelation with you OP.

GrahamBrown · 18/09/2018 18:37

The baby wasn't planned. I’m rather surprised that someone thought this may be a joke post. Also, I am not looking for sympathy. It was very therapeutic writing my thoughts down and posting them, as I am sure you can all concur.

The solution is to resolve to make tomorrow better. With much effort I hope to improve our relationship. There is always tomorrow. I will keep working hard on us in the hope that she will too.

Each problem I listed is specific and I hope; temporary.

-Emotional instability; recommend to the midwife she needs therapy.

-Making no effort; tell her she needs to make an effort and give her a bit of shit, when she has been a bit of a shit!
-No discipline; become a strict husband telling her to shower and get out of bed etc.

Onward and upward.

OP posts:
TheObwaldhutte · 18/09/2018 18:50

OP what do you want from your post? It reads as a statement of fact only even though the facts paint a picture of an horrific future for the as yet unborn child. Are you asking for help? It sounds like your wife is quite ill to be honest or at best has a severe form of a personality disorder. A baby would be at risk with a mother as you describe. Are you asking permission to report your wife's mental helth issues to social services or something like that? It does sound like it might be wise to speak to someone in authority about this situation. You don't sound like you are considering leaving her?

Lucyanna79 · 18/09/2018 18:54

On the one hand I genuinely pity your situation. Nobody should be in an unhappy relationship, even more so when children are involved, it just becomes toxic. At the very least you both should consider therapy/relate.
On the other hand, you really should bare in mind that she’s pregnant. You sound extremely critical of her, she actually sounds depressed to me. Pregnancy is so tough, not only on the body but the mind.
Maybe if you were more supportive of her, rather than criticising her mothering skills before the baby is even born, it might help abit. Having a baby isn’t easy, but it really can be the making of you!
Good luck

MMmomDD · 18/09/2018 20:37

OP - reading your second post - and from some of the same in the first one - i am now wondering if the issue is you, not her.
She does sound depressed. And you sound controlling. And, somehow thinking that you can manage your W - and inform, and recommend, and become ‘strict husband’, etc.

This will not end well for anyone involved. I hope she finds her strength one day.

yetmorecrap · 18/09/2018 20:47

I agree MMMom, maybe the depression is because you sound as if you don’t actually like her very much OP, maybe she realises this and also feels in a bad way to do anything about it with pregnancy. Read your last post back to yourself , you sound as if you want to dictate , if she doesn’t like you and you don’t like her then it is what it is but better to agree to a plan of action but apart

DancingForTheDog · 18/09/2018 21:01

Your wife needs to resolve to make tomorrow better, not you. She doesn't sound stable and I fear for your child. Has she been to see the doctor about her mood swings and poor mental health? Has she had her hormone levels checked? Why did she stop going to counselling? There is a theory in certain counselling approaches that anger is a manifestation of unresolved pain. Does she have issues from her childhood, issues with family members etc? Emotional Therapeutic Counselling may be worth looking into.

More2Fly · 18/09/2018 21:09

Was she like this before she got pregnant or is this all during pregnancy?

twilightsaga · 18/09/2018 22:13

I'm confused why you've married and had a baby with this lady

Gazelda · 18/09/2018 22:21

Do you love your wife?
Has she always been like this?
Your posts give the impression that you're 'doing your duty' towards her and your baby.
I can see why other posters mention that you come across as controlling.
Had you discussed having a family when you married?

stevesmithsmum · 18/09/2018 22:29

With much effort I hope to improve our relationship

Yeah, good luck with that mate.

TheObwaldhutte · 19/09/2018 06:53

It is possible that you are bringing the worst out in each other OP. Do you think that is possible? If you absented yourself do you think she might normalise, become more rational and be a good mother? If you think that even 1% you must leave for the sake of the baby and parent the child from a distance.

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