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How can somebody change so much?

21 replies

Harmonysg85 · 17/09/2018 16:15

Hi all, I’m feeling very anxious about my relationship and have no-one I can talk to about this. I met my partner 3 years ago after a long period of giving up on love & accepting the single status. I was very nervous about making myself vulnerable again/falling in love as have been badly hurt in the past. However, he was determined to win my heart and invested fully in me. I waited 6 months before introducing him to my son in which time we just saw each other at weekends and once mid week while my son was at his dads. He smothered me in gifts, made me feel like the most beautiful girl in the world, treated me more beautifully than I have ever been treated. I Believe he truly loved me and I certainly felt loved in the fullest sense.

However, financially, things have been tough for the full duration of our relationship. I have until recently been the bread winner since he moved in as he had to put all of his money into his business (he is self-employed and extremely hard working). He is now bringing in £900.00 /month and contributing to the house hold bills. I believe the main source of our problems is alcohol. He would always arrive (when dating) with a couple of bottles of wine and we would stay up late into the night chatting and having a wonderful time. But I believe this has led to us both drinking too frequently and we are both struggling to get a grip. We never touch wine until late at night and both gym most nights until 9pm.

In the meantime, I fear alcohol has completely changed him. The man I am with now hardly resembles the one I fell in love with 3 years ago (I still love him very much). I know that honey moon periods are just that but to give an example of recent behaviour, I am due in for brain surgery tomorrow and for this last week leading up to it have had to deal with almost constant shouting (my son is with his dad he never shouts when he is in the house). He stays up late (normally between 1&2 every night and I know this is to continue drinking. Is not interested at all in coming to been with me which is naturally affecting intimacy. When he stays up, he spends his time watching very dark films, playing dark games, listening to very dark rap music. He has become angry, irritable and aggressive to an extent I feel I am treading on egg shells. The worst part is, he does not feel any remorse after. If I text him after an awful episode, I try to keep it constructive and let him know how it makes me feel, and he doesn’t bother to reply. I don’t think he bothers to read my texts half the time. He expects me to sweep bad events/incidents under the carpet and get some very angry if I become subdued (which I struggle not to in un-resolved situations. The thing that’s really messing with my head, is he is blaming me for all of his anger and aggression. I support him, do all of the housework (whilst holding down 3 jobs working more than full time), do all of his Washing, pay for all of the groceries, support him enotionally, massage him when he’s sore at the end of days, I really love him so much. So don’t feel I deserve this. But I don’t feel at all loved for or emotionally supported at all any more.

Now of all times I feel I need him the most and he has been so wrapped up in himself and very quick to emotionally put me down. He’s simply not there for me. He has taken a day off work tomorrow to take me in to hospital and has generously offered to help a lot with school runs the next couple of weeks. The trouble is, that is how he justify’s his lack of care/emotional support.

I guess I just am panicking about where this relationship is heading as I so want it to work but know I am being treated terribly at times and honestly in my heart of hearts sense it is border line abuse at times. He is very depressed and won’t seek help. I think he is feeding his depression though (stopped gym recently, drinking more and more, not sleeping enough, feeding his mind with dark dark dark...). Any insight would be gratefully appreciated. Thanks

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TooTrueToBeGood · 17/09/2018 16:23

He hasn't really changed, what you're seeing now is the real him. The man you fell in love with was an illusion he created to win you over. Now that he thinks he has you where he wants you he can be himself. The "himself" you describe is an abusive, gaslighting, freeloading POS.

PlinkPlink · 17/09/2018 16:33

You poor thing OP.

You're a perfect meal ticket for him.

I know you probably feel like this isn't bad enough to leave him. It is though. You deserve so much more than this.
He's not prepared to listen or work things out.

Get yourself prepared and leave when he's out. Line up all your ducks as they say on MN. Do it safely though. Go somewhere where you are safe.

This is spiralling downwards and he doesn't sound like the type to accept help.

Harmonysg85 · 17/09/2018 18:48

It is difficult, because in between episodes, he does tell me that he loves me (I believe he thinks he does... though don’t understand his coldness). He has moved into my house and there have been a couple of occasions I have asked him to leave if things have been really extreme. But this has caused a lot of damage rather than help the situation (he has hated me for it rather than reflect on reasons for it)... I’m not ready to give up on him, I’ve invested so much into him and I know if alcohol wasn’t in his life we would be perfect together. I really do adore him. He is wonderful with my son Who has also really grown to love him. I just feel ever so lost.

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Thingsdogetbetter · 17/09/2018 19:02

He's an alcoholic cocklodger who doesn't like it when you pull him up on being shite. And you think you've invested too much in him to give up? You're throwing good money after bad hanging in to this relationship. He love bombed you and got his feet under your table and then revealed his true self. That heady intense period was the lie. This is the real him. This is what you're hanging on to? This crap relationship is what will continue far into the future. The nice bit is about a third of your relationship now. In a year it'll be a quarter of it. Then half. Then you won't be able to remember the good bits.

Saffy101 · 17/09/2018 19:15

What you had in the beginning was love bombing.
This is followed with devaluing.
Eventually followed by discarding.
You may have to copy and paste this or it may work as a ling, it is a good article.

thoughtcatalog.com/lacey-ramburger/2016/12/if-he-doesnt-respect-you-he-doesnt-love-you/

Saffy101 · 17/09/2018 19:15

Sorry...may work as a link.

Harmonysg85 · 17/09/2018 19:22

The problem is, this is my third serious relationship and feels s familiar downward spiral & I’m beginning to think this is literally the norm... are all men the same? I can’t understand how I have landed in the same boat 3 times if this is classed as an unusual situation 😞. It really does make me think I can’t bear ever going through this again so my only option is to go back to being single if things don’t improve. That’s a hard prospect right now..
I know there are good men out there, but can anyone honestly say after years their men treat them still genuinely with love, care & consideration? I have friends and family who have been married for many years and I’n Sure are not subject to what I am but I’n Not sure how loving & meaningful their marriages are. I suppose I’m a bit all over the place. I had a full blown panic attack at 2am last night which is not normal at all for me and he still didn’t stop giving me a hard time (1 bottle, 3 cans later). I went down at 1:30 and swiped the cans off the coffee table because I was upset and... well you can imagine the rest 😟.

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Saffy101 · 17/09/2018 19:28

You are choosing the same type, you need to look at the reason you are choosing this type, they are the ones that appear to offer the most at first. Shinier, keener, smilier, more time for you....

BackInTheRoom · 17/09/2018 19:29

Google/YouTube The Human Magnet Syndrome'.

Notmyrealname85 · 17/09/2018 19:36

Definitely love bombing to begin with :( he wanted you so much, he made himself appear a better man, it’s a horrid trick as no one can keep up those lies forever. There’s no guarantee this is just a phase, it seems like this is the real him you’re meeting

If he was like this to begin with, would you have given him a second date? Can you imagine living like this for another 3 years or is it exhausting?

Harmonysg85 · 17/09/2018 19:58

No. I cannot. I’m falling apart. Thanks, I’ll certainly have a read.

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PlinkPlink · 17/09/2018 20:08

I agree with Saffy101 here...

If all your blokes are turning out to be the same or similar then there's a reason for it.
Subconsciously you are looking for it.

I was the same at some point, picking the same shitty guys and wondering what the fuck I was doing wrong.

After some inward reflection, I realised that I never had a decent father. I never had him set me the example of what a good man was.
He set this example for me from a young age instead: abusive, emotionally distant and emotionally retarded.
Once I went through a few of them I recognised my pattern and their patterns... and eventually those patterns became a red flag I listened to.

Being single ain't so bad when you're taking time to heal and to look at yourself. Take time for some self care.

Thinking of you lots OP xx

Wallywobbles · 17/09/2018 20:28

My long term DPs have all been different but my exh could be your current DP. Have a go at the freedom program on line. It was a real eye opener.

Like it or not this is not going to get better for you. I'm very sorry. But it's really not.

I was love bombed. Fell pregnant the day he asked me to marry him. And from then on in it just bombed. Every boundary I had was broken. Physically he pushed every sexual taboo I had. He was abusive. Abused our kids etc. It's a very dark road you're on.

Good luck with the op tomorrow, he won't ever be there for you again. Look for support elsewhere.

Chickenloverwoman · 17/09/2018 23:07

Oh god. Love bombing, pushing your boundaries, blaming you, cocklodging. Get rid! LTB, and that's my first one
And yes to the Freedom Programme.

ICESTAR · 18/09/2018 10:02

If you feel you are attracting the same men who are abusive, it maybe helpful to do the freedom programme. You can google it and see if there is a group near you. Alternatively you can do it online. Good luck op.

Musti · 18/09/2018 10:30

He was basically nice to you until he got his claws in. Read what you've written about what you do for him. Why are you doing 3 jobs as well as doing everything else and looking after a child??? He's got plenty of time to sit around drinking and watching films like a teenager, he should use that time to pull his weight!! That's aside from all the emotional stuff.

AFistfulofDolores1 · 18/09/2018 10:55

I agree with the PPs who say that unconsciously you're choosing the same kind of person. I wonder what was modelled to you, relationship-wise, when you were growing up? Is that where you learned that 'love' was dysfunctional?

Also, the things you cite at the beginning of the relationship - his 'determination', his 'smothering you with gifts', his 'full investment' in you, and your introducing him to your kids - all of these are red flags, and not signs of a healthy relationship.

I hope your op goes well, and, once you've recovered, you can start exploring how to change these ingrained patterns that you've confused with love.

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Bananalanacake · 18/09/2018 11:06

He pays towards the household bills. So he's not that big a cocklodger. Hope he pays for his own alcohol though.

hellsbellsmelons · 18/09/2018 11:07

I’m not ready to give up on him
Well then more fool you.
You are enabling all of this and denying yourself a happy life.
Why would you do that to yourself?
Life is short. Very short sometimes.
Stop doing this to yourself.

Google 'Sunk Cost Fallacy'
Take back control of your life.
Pack his stuff up and don't let him in your house again.

This is such a no-brainer it's hard to understand why you don't see it!???

Aquamarine1029 · 18/09/2018 12:32

He love bombed you to earn your trust but no one can keep up that charade forever. You now know the real him and trust he, he's here to stay. Kicking him out is NOT GIVING UP, it is saying you will no longer be abused and taken advantage of. You have a child in his situation, it's time to raise the bar.

bertielab · 18/09/2018 12:35

Kicking him up is moving onwards and upwards

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