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Need to pour this out

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Nooshoos123 · 11/09/2018 17:46

I ended my relationship 3 days ago, just after the 1 year mark. I don’t think he was a raging sociopath or narcissist, but definite controlling and manipulative tendencies. These are painful days and I am struggling. Just need to get it off my chest and maybe hear some of your thoughts. I’m feeling so low, please don’t be too brutal!

I was a single parent for a long time, had been on my own for 12 years bringing up my two daughters when I met him. He absolutely love bombed me, but at the time I was just swept off my feet and starry eyed. He was generous, caring, made me feel amazing, all that usual stuff. Red flags first appeared about 6 weeks in, and I’m kicking myself that I didn’t pay heed, especially after previous nightmare relationship experiences. I saw glimpses of another side of him: demanding, critical, unreasonable – things would escalate quite quickly and his tone would become sarcastic, I’d suspect at times he was provoking me. But that was far outweighed by the positives – he made me feel secure and loved etc. Nonetheless, it was a bit of a rollercoaster emotionally.

He moved in with me after 4 months – I wouldn’t have chosen for that to happen so soon but his accommodation was connected to his job and as he was changing roles and in a difficult spot I allowed it to happen. 6 months in we went on a holiday to Thailand and he proposed. I accepted, shushing the alarm bells in my head that were trying to alert me to the amount of drama, arguing and nonsense in the relationship. The number of times I’d ended up crying in the toilets at work, spending ages messaging back and forth desperately trying to resolve ridiculous issues with him. We literally never went more than a few days without some kind of bickering or arguing, about something or other.

8 months in I discovered that he had considerable debts that he hadn’t mentioned to me, despite us discussing having our wedding in less than a year and other milestone celebrations. I’d made it clear that complete honesty was essential for me in a relationship, and the fact that he had kept his debts hidden and that he had shown poor judgment bothered me deeply. I ended things. It wasn’t the debts that bothered me as much as the hiding, the damage to trust. He turned on the full groveling, crying, begging mess and I took him back. Looking back there was a lot of emotional manipulation about me turning my back on him and our family when he needed me most, being cold and unsympathetic, lacking understanding etc.

After we got back together things were mostly better, but there were still concerns for me: mostly, him demanding to know where I am and what I’m doing, not in a friendly, tell me about your day sort of way, but in a suspicious, demanding way. Implying that I’m cheating on him and lying to him. Didn’t like me having a seated, fully-clothed back and shoulder massage at work because the masseur is a man. Any time I mentioned my closest peer at work – male – there would be a reaction of some sort, so in the end I stopped doing it. Every time I worked late or socialized with my colleagues he made an issue of it, expected me to answer his messages even mid-meal. I’m an introvert who needs time alone, but every time I tried to take any there would be horrible consequences, mostly him being convinced that I was with another man. I could see that he was staring to characterize me as over-sensitive, over-dramatic, over-reacting any time I took issue with things like this. Our arguments would be protracted and circular, he used a lot of sarcasm and ridiculous, childish behavior. My head would feel fried.

In between the rubbish, he showed a lot of positive qualities: being supportive, doing more than his share around the house, complimenting me etc. After one argument he said “I know I can be a dick sometimes. I think that’s why I try so hard to be amazing the rest of the time. To make up for it”.

The final straw was when I was at a gym class, and in a break between work-out tracks I answered a message from him. That was it, he was off again – how could I be messaging if I was in a gym class? Where was I really? He even sent me a screen shot of the gym timetable. I looked at myself in the gym mirror and just thought: no. I shouldn’t have to justify myself, prove myself. Even if I’d changed my mind and gone shopping instead, so what? I told him to fuck off. And of course then it was all about how my reaction was so rude, all I had to do was answer the question. He actually said “I would have accepted a simple, polite explanation”.

I am trying to stay strong. After about 12 hours he sent a message apologizing, admitting that he’d messed up, saying “jealousy is a strange and difficult thing”. I’ve had to block him on social media as he wouldn’t stop begging, reminding me how good we were, how sorry he was etc, even when I asked him repeatedly to stop.

This has all come tumbling out of me, and I feel like I’ve written so much now, not in an orderly way at all. Thank you to anyone who reads this – just the writing of it has been therapeutic.

The loss of this relationship feels like a hammer blow to me. Being with someone after so long on my own was amazing and despite all of the rubbish I miss him. But I am made of tough stuff and know I deserve better.

Love to you all xxx

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triptrapdollydumpling · 11/09/2018 17:49

Sending you good wishes, you’ve done the right thing FlowersWine

shapeshifter88 · 11/09/2018 17:51

It sounds like you've done the right thing op. well done for just getting it done and not putting up with it any more . It shouldn't be that difficult or stressful to be with someone xx

Etino · 11/09/2018 17:52

You are very strong. Well done.
Flowers

FetchezLaVache · 11/09/2018 17:57

You've absolutely done the right thing, and I'm sure the sense of loss of the relationship will soon be replaced by a sense of relief at not having this man in your life any more. Flowers

Prettyvase · 11/09/2018 17:57

Wow! Well done for getting rid!

You are going to be a great role model for your girls after all this!

(Hopefully they didn't see or witness this terribly damaging behaviour?)

sofato5miles · 11/09/2018 17:57

Keep your strength. I left an awful relationship equivalent to yours. Looking back (twenty years ago) a I see now that the hideous drama had become addictive. I KNEW I had to stay away but I missed him so much. I gave myself a deadline of six months and thought if I still felt so bereft I would go back.

In the fifth month I went on holiday and had a fantastic holiday romance and have never looked back.

crappyday2018 · 11/09/2018 17:59

Well done OP, despite the despair you feel right now, you should also be really bloody proud of yourself. You realised he was no good for you and you put yourself (and children) first, going against probably what your heart was telling you. This is not an easy thing to do.
I recently ended a 7 month relationship. He also love bombed me and said all the things I wanted to hear (after being in an awful relationship). But then I started finding out things about him - he didn't work, lived with his parents and then ultimately I found out he was an alcoholic. He also pushed for us to live together but thankfully I didn't take it that far. When I realised the extent of his drinking problem, I ended things with him. He, of course, denied it and said I had got it all wrong etc but I have stood firm.
I've blocked him (after a small blip) but I'm still very sad about it. I still think about him all the time and mourning the loss of the relationship I thought we could have.
When things get tough, remind yourself of those arguments, those possessive episodes, his jealousy etc. He would only have gotten worse. Well done OP, stay strong Flowers

pog100 · 11/09/2018 18:02

Actually that's very well written and very easy to read. You analyse the situation well and you are absolutely right in your conclusions, he is bad news for you.
Well done, stick to it, please. Good luck

OrdinaryGirl · 11/09/2018 18:12

You are brave and clear-sighted and oh my goodness your future self will be forever grateful. I wish I could read more MN posts like this, where someone has decided enough is enough.

Storm4star · 11/09/2018 18:48

OP, you have 100% done the right thing. Please, please don't back down. I was with someone like this and, to my shame, I stayed with him until he broke me completely. Once I was broken he didn't want me any more and found a brand new victim. So now I have to live with not only all the mental harm he caused me but the pure shame of not having had the strength to end it. He broke me so much I was begging him to take me back!!! I look back on it and I just feel sick. He did all the things your ex has done. In fact I almost shuddered reading some of what you had written because the memories came flooding back! You have done what I wasn't strong enough to do. Good for you OP. You are tough and you do deserve so much better. Stay strong Flowers

Nooshoos123 · 11/09/2018 21:15

Thank you all so much for the support, it has helped bolster me up this evening.
Rationally I know this is for the best, but emotionally it feels like grief - it comes in waves, and at times is an actual physical pain. I know it was”only” a year, but it was so significant for me. I alternate between kicking myself for not ending it sooner and being a little pleased that this time I’ve called a halt. Need to stay busy, particularly at weekends I think.
Storm4star: thank you; it is a hellish thing to go through, there is no shame on you - all on him. You did the best you could at the time Flowers

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forumdonkey · 11/09/2018 22:05

Well done OP, reading what you have wrote, you've absolutely done the right thing. Just keep in your mind that you deserve all the best parts of the relationship without the shit and one day you'll get that..... but you'll not find Mr right while you are with Mr wrong

StacksOfBoxes · 11/09/2018 22:23

Your relationship sounds a lot like my last one, except that mine got even worse in the end. I have never loved a man so much, even though I could see his faults (and mine too. ... and he kept on pointing out my faults to me). Breaking up with him is one of the most painful things I have ever done. Fortunately, it happened in bite- size stages, as I realised that he was always going to be dishonest, a liar, incapable of putting children first and incapable of trusting people.

The jealousy was never-ending, and so unreasonable. He kept threatening to go to other women if I didn't jump when he said jump. I forgave him time and time again, kept on trusting against the odds and giving it one more chance...

The almost physical agony of finally parting was incredibly hard, but I can assure you that it gets a little bit easier every day. I did miss the drama, but not any more, and I don't miss the treading on eggshells all the time. I enjoy being able to give all my emotional energy to my kids, and have happy family times without fuss. I still miss him and still love him and want the best for him, but I KNOW he can't change without some sort of miracle, and without facing up to himself in a way.

You have done the right thing. Stay strong and keep busy. It does get better xx

Honeybee79 · 11/09/2018 22:38

Well done op. Good for you Flowers

bluejelly · 11/09/2018 22:55

You've so done the right thing. Be strong OP. I've been where you are almost exactly. Took me 3 years to leave - 3 years of wasted time. This person doesn't have the capacity to be Mr Right - make room in your life for someone who does. They will come along - but only if you're single and already know you're not prepared to compromise.

Thanks
lowtide · 11/09/2018 23:02

I think it’s amazing you got out so quickly. Shows you have some boundaries!
I spent 3 years in it. I look back now and I am constantly shocked about what I was willing to accept. And how I debased myself, justifying tiny things. Always trying to be perfect and lovable. It’s crazy when you think about it.

Do not go back. I say it was three years, I split up with him 18months in. The rest of those three years was just an awful back and forth.

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