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Was this weird? Dont know what to think.

23 replies

Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 12:07

Nc for this post as I dont want it linked to me.

This isnt anything that happened recently it was around a year and a half or so. But was looking for some perspective as it plays on my mind sometimes. Around a year and a half ago I was with my ex and heavily pregnant and I would wake up to him having sex with me. This seemed to happen frequently during my pregnancy. Its like he seemed to wait till I fell asleep as we would be sitting up in bed talking for ages and he wouldnt initiate anything then I would fall asleep and wake up to him having sex with me. When I told my friends they all seemed horrified, I did think it was weird and wondered why he did it but never mentioned it to him. Was it weird?

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zippey · 09/09/2018 12:09

Unless you consented or were ok with it, sounds like rape to me. I’m sorry.

Fizzysours · 09/09/2018 12:10

I think it was, strictly speaking, rape. Broadly speaking, grim grubby behaviour. You is well rid!!!!

Singlenotsingle · 09/09/2018 12:11

Odd!

Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 12:13

Thats what my friends said but I dont know if I would go as far as saying it was?? I dont have any intentions of reporting it or anything and we never spoke about it, I found it awkward tbh and didnt understand why he did it.

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Huskylover1 · 09/09/2018 12:18

Not that any reason would be valid, but have you any idea why he would do this? It's just so odd. Or was sex off the "menu" at this stage of pregnancy? Either way, it is rape.

Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 12:22

The weirdest thing is I have an extremely high sex drive and never didnt consent to sex whilst awake with him, He knew I would have been up for it whilst awake maybe thats why he thought it was ok?? with the previous pregnancies we had sex all the way up until I gave birth, but like I said it seemed he would purposely wait till I was asleep.

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Saggital · 09/09/2018 12:25

There is a 'sleeping woman' sex fetish thing and and a similar nonchalant fetish where they read a book while having sex. Its all a bit grubby.

Mabelface · 09/09/2018 12:26

If you're asleep, you can't consent, therefore it's rape. He's a disgusting specimen.

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 09/09/2018 13:24

Yep, it's rape. But sometimes it's hard to recognise it as that if you're not scared; didn't technically say "no"; there was no violence etc...

But it was rape.

Angelf1sh · 09/09/2018 13:28

Definitely rape so yes it’s definitely weird.

JungWan · 09/09/2018 13:30

horrible. :-/

Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 13:43

I really struggle to see it as rape which is why I asked for opinions. I would have consented if I was awake, feeling very conflicted.

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HollowTalk · 09/09/2018 13:44

Not only was it rape - and repeated rape - but he was denying you a fulfilling sex life, too.

I'm really glad he's your ex.

BitOutOfPractice · 09/09/2018 13:48

Consenting on a previous occasion isn’t an open invitation to presume consent on every other occasion.

CherryCherryCherry · 09/09/2018 13:49

He didn't ask you. You didn't say yes. It wasn't with your consent. Agree with others that it was rape. Sorry OP. Obviously didn't distress you at the time. That's odd too.

LittleKitty1985 · 09/09/2018 13:52

You don't seem very upset about it, did it upset you at the time? It's obviously a fetish for him and it seems like he knew you well enough to have "presumed consent" - had you discussed fantasies like this before?

HollowTalk · 09/09/2018 14:10

Sometimes people are so ground down by their partners that they become hardened to the abuse and don't respond in the way they might have otherwise. It's interesting that it's now that she's free from this guy that the OP is thinking about this more clearly.

PirateWeasel · 09/09/2018 14:23

Hm, as PPs have said, this sounds pretty unethical to me! How much did you sleep through before you realised?? The fumbling about round my crotch would have woken me up long before anything, ahem, invasive started happening, but maybe I'm a light sleeper...

Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 14:26

I definitely dont feel sad about it, he was abusive other than this I guess I just brushed it off as “normal” like waking a partner up with sex as I know that its not unheard of. It was the waiting till I was asleep which got me as it wasnt like he was waking me in the morning, More pretty much as soon as I fell asleep. We definitely didnt discuss it beforehand and he only started doing it towards the end of our relationship (never in the 5 years previous)

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Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 14:38

I would wake up pretty much straight away but just lay there and let him, The first time I was too shocked to say anything but after that I just felt awkward.

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Justanotheranon · 09/09/2018 14:40

I would always sleep on my side so maybe he just came round to whatever side I was on, I do remember clearly sleeping facing him one night then waking up in the other direction so he maybe just waited till I turned over, Tmi but I never slept with underwear on, never have done tbh.

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LittleKitty1985 · 09/09/2018 14:40

It's called "somnophilia", you might find this an interesting read: www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/in-excess/201402/doze-were-the-days

FlowerpotFairyHouse · 09/09/2018 14:45

I would have consented if I was awake, feeling very conflicted.

I understand that. But you didn't consent and that's the difference. You couldn't. You were asleep.

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