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I think he's at it again

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nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 14:14

NC for this because my usual name is know . Long time lurker, very rare poster.

Please bare with me, I'm going to write down the bare bones so he doesn't recognise himself (sometimes on here), but happy to elaborate if needed.

Last year, I caught my 'd'p out in a 2 yr affair. It was both physical and emotional. I agreed to try again with counselling (which never happened).

I needed to use his phone for something earlier and noticed he's taken a photo of his erect penis.

There's only one reason he'd take that photo isn't there?

So, what do I do now? He's since deleted the image but not before I sent it to myself. I can get at his phone freely and know the password but think he may know I've seen so will be trigger happy with the delete button 

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cakecakecheese · 04/09/2018 14:17

An explanation might be he wants to have a closer look in case of a lump or something but yeah it's probably a dick pic. I'm so sorry. How's he been behaving lately? Anything out of the ordinary? How did you find out last time?

nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 14:22

Last time was thanks to one of the kids playing with his phone.

Nothing out of the ordinary behaviour wise. But then I'm clearly crap at spotting the signs.

Checking is plausible, but I don't think it needs to be hard for that.

I don't want to rush in without enough proof. But I don't think I can get any.

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Septembermummy1 · 04/09/2018 14:30

Given his history I get why your suspicious. I wouldn't call him out on it just yet because he could of just took it to check something, but if he didn't take it for that he will probably lie and say that anyway. Maybe wait and see if anything else happens that's a bit more obvious. Maybe have a look round the house to make sure he hasn't got any other phones you may not know about.
I hope for you it is just an innocent picture. How horrible for your kid to find out about the affair that's awful for you and them.

nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 14:33

Ah, she was too young to read. None of the dcs know what he's done thankfully.

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Septembermummy1 · 04/09/2018 14:35

Oh I'm glad to hear that OP Thanks

yetmorecrap · 04/09/2018 14:39

What is it with bloody dick pics, these guys have a screw loose and what kind of woman of any intelligence actually wants to receive them , I am baffled

stellabird · 04/09/2018 14:42

I don't get the whole "dick pic" thing either. I've never seen a pretty one yet.

yetmorecrap · 04/09/2018 14:57

Lol, and I’ve yet to find a woman who thinks wow, great dick, must seem him!

yetmorecrap · 04/09/2018 14:58

Thing is OP and I am being honest, every bloke I know if they thought they had a medical thing would ask their partner to take a look, not take photos!!

Sicario · 04/09/2018 14:59

Wouldn't it be perfect if you could have it "sent" to your phone, so you could say "Ew! Somebody's just sent me a dick pick!" and show it to him?

Shoxfordian · 04/09/2018 15:09

Yeah he's probably sending his dick pic around online and cheating again

TomHardysNextWife · 04/09/2018 15:12

We have gut instinct for a reason.

Just saying.

He's going to be very careful for a while as he knows you've seen that photo btw.

nibblingandbiting · 04/09/2018 15:20

Bin him.
He already betrayed you for 2 years and made promises he hasn't stuck to. Sound like he is one of those that tell you whatever they think you want to hear.
You don't even have to mention that picture. Just tell him, it's not working for you. Bye.

nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 15:25

He's off today, dc3 first day at school. Sent him on the school run without his phone.

Unsurprisingly, there's nothing suspicious on there. Except for a dodgy app (intended to spice up a couple's sex life) not available in this country. Hmm

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nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 15:28

That's so easy to say, nibbling. But the reality is our lives are scarily intertwined. I have no idea how to even begin to separate them. I can and will if I must, but I'd rather know beyond a shadow of a doubt that I'm making the right decision.

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notapizzaeater · 04/09/2018 15:30

Was the picture Date stamped ?

nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 15:33

In the same way all iPhone photos are, yes. But nothing on the image itself. Does that matter?

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FuckItPassMeTheWine · 04/09/2018 17:29

So he’s taken a pic of his hard knob , yep only reason for that . And now he’s deleted it , even more suspicious.

If it’s an iPhone you could potentially do a restore of backup ?

support.apple.com/kb/ph12521?locale=en_GB

Can you check the deleted folder as sometimes it just lingers there.

Anything in WhatsApp archived messages or WhatsApp call log?

vanillapieandicecream · 04/09/2018 17:43

I'm sorry OP. Is he on instagram? This seems to be the app of choice for infidelity (*based on my reading of relationship threads)

BifsWif · 04/09/2018 17:54

Go on to WhatsApp, on the chats page pull the page down from the top, like aggressive scrolling almost. Any archived chats will show at the top.

SandyY2K · 04/09/2018 18:00

Trusting someone after a 2 year affair is really hard.

Why didn't you have counselling?

What consequences did he face last time?

Was there ever a chance you would have left him and did he know this?

The reason I ask if if he never faced any consequences and you showed gave no serious indication this was a deal breaker...Then it's easy to slip back into it, with the knowledge all will be forgiven again.

I honestly wonder what goes through the mind of a cheating spouse about the betrayed spouse, when they
don't end it.

Would he still be there if you had a 2 year affair?

nameynamerson2018 · 04/09/2018 18:25

He's not on Instagram and there's nothing in his WhatsApp archives (I checked that earlier as his previous was conducted through that).

Counselling.... well, we went for the first relate introduction session. I think he must have removed our interest after that. She said his previous behaviour was abusive. I don't think he liked that much. Can't think why!

He knows he's out if he does it again. There were a plethora of weak reasons why I didn't leave him last year. There were consequences too, but I wonder now if I did enough.

Obviously I didn't!

I think I'm just going to ask him. As a pp (I'm sorry I don't remember who, my brain is mush right now) said, he's going to be on high alert now if he thinks I've seen that photo. I won't find anything.

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nibblingandbiting · 04/09/2018 18:39

Not everyone who has affairs uses Whatsapp or even Insta. A lot use Snapchat because of the simple fact that messages delete unless saved.
Archived on WhatsApp only stay if archived. Most people go for the option of full delete.
Once the initial message has been sent and deleted to cover tracks, contact is usually a quick call or message that gets instantly deleted.
Some also say to the other person, please don't contact me, I will contact you unless they have an additional phone. Some do, and only use the main one to send pictures as the second phone is usually a basic phone.

I was on Tinder and Happn for a long time. I could easily just delete the app and quickly re-download without losing any contacts on there. Lots of the guys I interacted were in a relationship, some were upfront and mentioned this, even in their profiles (I didn't have contact with these guys). Others tried to hide it, but came up with various excuses and it became apparent, I lost count of the number of males in their late 20's upwards who couldn't have visitors because of the landlady.

A number of the guys who I chatted to over a long period of time, when I found out they were in relationships we had already become friends. Not emotional ones, not all I had met at this point, the ones I had fucked I stopped all contact instantly. And I am not condoning what any of them were/are doing, but I asked them how their partners never found out. They are really good at covering their tracks and do the above.

They use day rooms, whether with hookups from Tinder or Escorts (I now do this). Day rooms require no card details when booking, you book, pay on arrival and can pay cash. There's no trace.

Of course, the ones using escorts visit them and again cash or BitCoins. But again no trace. As an escort, I don't ever contact them. They contact me and they are very clear no contact and the initial contact is deleted and my name saved as something innocuous (once I find out they are in relationships I sever contact).

I do understand how difficult it is when lives are so intertwined. I was the owner of a garage when my marriage broke down and he worked there (when we first invested it was easier for it to be in my sole name). Plus kids and all the rest of it. However, I had to ask myself whether keeping everything entwined, an unhappy relationship, lack of trust and respect, having an effect on mental health, and well my self-respect so low to tolerate this crap, if it was all really worth it.

It was hard, I'm not going to lie. There were times I questioned if it was the right thing to do. Maybe I should go back. But I stuck it out, and when those doubts started to creep back I actually looked at life then and before. Obviously, he was still miserable, he'd lost a good thing. But, the children and I were a lot happier. It's also amazing how much living in a crap relationship where you are constantly worrying ages you.

MMmomDD · 04/09/2018 18:52

OP - two years is beyond an affair - it’s a relationship.
And - of course it’s not really over - he just went into better hiding.
You found a pic - most likely because he started to relax that it’s all been going well and quieted down.
Now that he most likely knows you saw the picture - he’ll be smarter again.

There isn’t anything you can do. Asking him is totally pointless

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