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Trying to save this friendship

32 replies

longnight · 02/09/2018 16:27

I really don't know where to start with this as it just feels like one big mess. I have namechanged but have been on mumsnet a while.

About 3 months ago a really good friend introduced me to a group of their other friends as I'd had a bit of a crap time on the friend front and she thought it would do me good meeting new people. I'm a single mum and I haven't had much of a social life since the kids were born and the few friends I had up til then were mum's I'd met at school and a friend who I'd met through 1 of them and a couple of friends I've had since school.

I seem to have been accepted into this new group and all of them are lovely apart from 1 who is a guy who seems to be a complete flirt. He's not a bad guy but when he drinks the flirting is ramped up and it sometimes makes me feel a bit uncomfortable but the others are great at being a buffer when this happens as my self esteem has been really shit over the past few years due to bad relationships both romantic and frendwise as I admit I have been a doormat in the past. Since becoming part of this group they have made it possible in me going out twice this was a big thing for me as I hadn't been out since my oldest was 3 and he's 15 now.

About 3 weeks ago I was invited with the kids to a bbq at one of the houses and was told an old friend of the group was back after working abroad for 6 months so there would be a new face. I turned up and the new face turned out to be someone I already knew and considered a friend.

This friend was the brother of an old school friend and we always got on well. Before he went abroad we had gotten closer and he became a friend if mine and not just the brother of a friend iykwim. If he was at a lose end he would come round watch films have a drink and some thing to eat and he would go home. We had a film night not long before he left and got a bit drunk we ended up having a drunken kiss as he was leaving he pulled away said not like this and left. He messages the next day apologising for the kiss and said it hoped it would ruin our friendship and I replied of course not. We kept in touch while he was working away with the odd text asking how I was and what had been up to and up until last weekend we were texting and he had popped round and we seemed to be as friendly as before he left.

This is where the problem lies. Last weekend I went out with the group and he was there everyone seemed to be getting on fine then at one point flirty guy got me cornered and tried to kiss me I pushed him away and told him I liked his as friend but no more and not to do it again. I headed back to where the group was and sat down and everyone apart from my friend who has recently come back. He looked like he was in a really bad mood and I asked him if he was ok but he was very short with me and then ignored me most of the night.
The next morning I text him to ask him if I had done anything to upset him as if I had it was intentional and I wanted to make things right between us as I didn't want to lose him as a friend.
He sent a text saying he was fine and that he hoped I had enjoyed my time with flirty guy. I asked him what he meant and he ignored me. I saw my friend who introduced me to the group twice this week and the first time I mentioned I was worried about the mutual friend and about the text exchange she was confused as me but she's later told me mutual friend and flirty guy had been talking later in the night and mutual friend mood had gotten worse.

How do I sort this out and not lose my friend I haven't messaged him since last Saturday as I thought if I gave him space he'd calm down from whatever has upset him and we could sort things out. I miss him and we are all supposed to be going out at the end of the month as it's a birthday in the group and if things stay this way then it's going to be awkward for everyone and I'm starting to think maybe I should back out and not go.

OP posts:
category12 · 02/09/2018 22:07

Be careful of your friend - he's got no business being an arse about some other guy. I'd see it as a bit of a red flag if you're considering a relationship with him.

sonjadog · 03/09/2018 08:52

So, how'd it go?

longnight · 03/09/2018 09:16

Hi sorry it ended up being a bit of a late night he brought cake and my favourite film Blush

He apologised again his words were he's been an utter dick and he has no excuse. Flirty guy did say that me pushing him away was me saying not in front of others and to wait until were was on our own Hmm. I plan on messaging him later and telling him that I don't appreciate him telling lies about me and if he tries anything again then I won't be as calm as last time.
He did say he does like me more then a friend but knows I'm no where near ready for a relationship and he was upset after flirty guy as flirt is known for being an arse with women and he thought after our drunken kiss if he tried to warn me about flirt he would just look like he was in his words a jealous dog trying to kiss and Mark his territory.

He says he did find it hard after we kissed as he sent me the text apologising for it as he was kind of hoping I would indicate that I felt more for him but I brushed it off and just accepted his apology. He said he's not used to being interested in someone and they not feeling the same straight away. He's said he's happy to continue to just be friends but he will be ready if I decide I want more but he also says he doesn't want to ruin our friendship so if I decide at any point I want a relationship with anyone else then he will accept that and it won't affect us.

I've told him I haven't really thought about him that way and a relationship is not something I can see myself thinking about anytime soon. I need to concentrate on sorting myself out and that and my kids are my only priority. I also pointed out if I ever decided I liked him more then a friend then it could not only possibly ruin our friendship but that of mine and his sister's and that after all the problems I've had with relationships and friendships in the past what I have now are very important to me and I'd be very worried about risking it all for something that could very easily not work out.

At that point I got upset because he laughed at me but he said I've come along way from a couple of years ago and at some point I need to stop looking at all the negatives that could happen because it stop be from taking a risk and being happy. He said sorry for laughing and said he understood where I was coming from but That playing things too safe could stop.me from being happy in the future. He's offered to look after my youngest as he knows I've been struggling with finding someone to watch her as I've been offered councilling to sort through everything that has gone in my past I've told him I will think about it.
I want to do the councilling but I'm not sure him doing me favours is best with what he said.

OP posts:
sonjadog · 03/09/2018 11:05

He sounds like a good bloke. But I think you are very perceptive in seeing that you aren't ready for a relationship right now and putting it on the back burner for now. I personally wouldn't worry about his sister. Is he really going to have to remain single for ever just because she doesn't want to see him with a friend?! It is very normal for people to meet partners through mutual acquaintances. If she is really odd about it, it would make me think twice about her, tbh.

The flirty guy sounds like one to avoid. I dislike men who think they can make comments on women's behalves, especially when the woman in question has never said or thought anything of the sort. I would get rid of him permanently.

Angelf1sh · 03/09/2018 18:28

I think you’d find that if you decide to have a relationship with someone else, he wouldn’t “accept” it at all, his recent behaviour shows that. He sounds to me a bit like a “nice guy TM” rather than an actually nice guy.

subspace · 03/09/2018 18:40

The "flirty" guy sound like a right persistent creep whose behaviour is absolutely 100% not okay. You said you normally have people to buffer you from him but he cornered you at this party ... That's scary stuff. At the very least I'd let the entire group know that his advances were very much unwanted and you have made it clear to him both before and after he tried to kiss you.

Cawfee · 03/09/2018 18:53

My advice is to stop texting people and say it to their faces. When you next see flirty guy, pull him aside and say simply, I’ve heard you said I was up for it, just so you know I’m not. I’m not into relationships. Have a great night. Then do not engage any further. Don’t be alone with him. Be friendly and polite but no one to one chatting etc. You are in danger of losing this entire group of friends if you keep on. These girls won’t be tolerant of all this messing around with the fellas. Don’t text the boys, don’t talk about it to anyone...if the girls say anything then just say “oh he did ask if I was maybe interested but I said no. Boys aren’t my cup of tea right now. I just want good friends. Anyway, who wants a drink?” Then stick to that script. Do not lose girlfriends due to bloke idiots.

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