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How do I move on from this?

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PearlandRubies194 · 30/08/2018 23:34

Hello everyone! I apologise beforehand for the long post. I feel like I need someone to make sense of my situation and give some advice, please.

Okay, so I have a very dysfunctional family. I was born out of a one night stand, my two younger siblings each have different fathers and neither of them stayed around. My mother was on her own with the three of us by the time she was 21. She’d been emotionally abused by her mother, my GM, during her childhood. Never shown any love or affection, no warmth (she started her periods aged 8 years and was thrown a packet of sanitary towels). Through her childhood, my GM made regular comments about the colour of my mother’s red hair and how she wished she had sat on her at birth as she wanted a dark haired baby....you get the idea.

My GF had an affair with my GM’s best friend for many years and because of the lack of financial support for women at the time, my GM chose to stay with him. I wished she hadn’t because it made her a bitter woman who was resentful of men and especially of my mother, who was a Daddy’s girl. She favourited her son, my uncle. And so began a pattern of favouriting one child per generation. She herself was prevented from embarking on a career as a nanny as her parents wanted her to look after their youngest, GM’s sister, which sparked this resentment of sibling bonds and she’s said she only married my GF to get away from her family.

My mother went off the rails. She became promiscuous aged 13, with older men. As a child, I found her in bed with my friends’ fathers (one was a long term affair). I can’t even begin to explain how it felt listening to the girls at school talk about how wonderful their dads were and what they did as a family when I could visualise their dads naked in my mum’s bed 😞.

I also found her in bed with a woman which caused a lot of confusion and her final relationship was during the 1990s with a man who was diagnosed as a sociopath. She was warned of this by the police but she still took him in. We watched him beat her up, she was raped after she’d had a miscarriage, he would steal from her. She went on heroin and then methadone (and has been on methadone ever since) and was sent to prison for burglary. She would blame me for not dragging him off her during beatings. At this point, my siblings went to Foster Care and I went to live with my Grandparents.

My time at my GP’s was idyllic - I had all the love, attention, care, toys, food etc I could ever want and need. It was perfect, right up until my Grandad died of cancer when I was 12. I went off the rails and was sent to live with my mother in another town.

My first day in the new school, Year 8, I was cornered by older girls who laughed at me because they’d seen my mum and her boyfriend having sex in the local train station. My sisters were made to go stealing at the local shops with my mum to get food or things for the house and I was beaten most evenings just because she hated me. There wasn’t any hot water so I’d have to wash in the kitchen sink each morning and was called “24/7” by the local kids because I wore my school uniform every day, all day. There were never any clean clothes. Eventually, my mum’s boyfriend died of a heroin overdose and she sank into a deep depression. She self-medicated with alcohol and I went back to live with my GM. I know she loved me, but GM worked long hours and I spent most of my teens alone in my room or eating for comfort.

From the age of 7 years to 15, my weight matched my age (7 years old = 7 stone, and so on). Whilst my friends wore trendy clothes, I had to shop at Bon Marche as nothing else would fit me. My confidence was low and I never had boyfriends like my friends did. I had acne and loathed my appearance.

My first boyfriend was 31 years old and I was 15, he was in a relationship and was addicted to heroin but such was my low self - esteem and self worth that I thought I didn’t deserve better. Other girls my age went to college, dated, worked and found themselves as independent, young women but I spent the following 6 years in a toxic relationship with this man. I moved in with him and would often have police raiding the house, he’d go between me and his previous partner and other women. He’d turn up at my job and demand money for drugs or he’d refuse to leave. All I wanted was for him to stop the drugs and become a family. I’d watch families through the windows at night, watching telly with the little lamp on and wished for the same - a cosy home, tv, dinners, freshly bathed children in their pyjamas and just a happy home. I had my son at aged 20 years and delivered him with no one beside me, other than the midwife, because heroin was too important to his father.

When my son was 4 weeks old, we were housed on a notorious estate and each weekend there would be Anti social behaviour, fighting, break-ins, substance misuse. I struggled to cope with a baby who was awake all night, without any support, it had been a traumatic birth too. had no idea how to budget my finances and was so lonely. I knew something was wrong when I started to clean obsessively; in the early hours I’d be cleaning windows or the stairs, skirting boards, ornaments. I started to hear voices telling me to put my son in front of the traffic and one day I put the blanket over his head.

I snapped out of this fog and took him to the local GP surgery and I was sectioned.

Over the following 7 years, I threw myself into my job as a carer and my GM became the main carer for my son (he lived with me, but I worked long shifts and he spent most days in school or at GM’s). I hadn’t bonded with him and this was how I coped.

Then I met a man who I felt would make it all better, he wanted to be a family, adopt my son. He had old fashioned values, we would watch films, do crosswords, he’d care for my son as his own. We had a little girl and then the abuse began.

When our daughter was 5 days old, I went for a bath as my breasts were sore from my milk. He screamed on the landing that I was selfish because he’d just put a pizza in the oven. He raped me when I was suffering from thrush and if I didn’t have sex he would stop talking to me until I apologised. He’d call me psycho, a whore, a bad mum etc all on a daily basis. I wasn’t allowed to colour my hair, or see friends - even for a cup of tea at theirs. The final straw came when he threw me out of the car on a rural road, miles from home and sped off with our daughter. I confided in my H/V and was told unless I went to a refuge that evening with the children, they’d be removed from my care.

I packed suitcases and bin bags and left. Since then, we’ve moved between three refuges and safe houses. I fought for them in court for nearly a year, as my ex partner had photocopied my diary where I wrote about my postnatal depression. I had x3 mental health assessments to prove I wasn’t unstable. The children were removed from CP register and I enrolled at University. I completed a BSc and a MA. I now have a job in the DVA field.

People see me and think I’m strong but I’m broken inside. Through the whole time I was in refuge, I didn’t receive a single text or phone call from my mum or siblings. They’ve never rang to see how the children are, never visited us or asked how we were and I never was congratulated for graduating. I didn’t even attend either graduation days as I didn’t have anyone to go with. But to add insult, they’ve become very good friends with my ex partner and have taken sides with him.

My son’s behaviour deteriorated last year; stealing from me, arrested for shoplifting, punching walls and doors, bullying his sister. His school work was awful. No respect for house rules or boundaries and in March this year, he packed his bags and went to live at my GM’s.

Whilst we were in the refuge, 3 years ago. My key worker told me to cut contact with GM as she was controlling. I couldn’t see it, I thought the 5 calls per day was her being caring. She’d ring my son and if he wouldn’t speak to her she’d cry and tell him “you don’t love me”. He was 9.

When we moved to our own home, she’d always cry and say she was lonely and depressed. I’d have her to stay for the weekend but it was stressful trying to study, look after the children and GM. She was obsessed with my son; if I told him off for whatever reason she would intervene.

One weekend, I’d just had the lounge carpet put down and asked my son to take the bottle of Coke to the kitchen incase he’d spil it. He wouldn’t listen as GM was next to him and of course, a 2 litre bottle spilled over the carpet. GM rubbed his back and whispered to him whilst I scrubbed the carpet in tears.

She’d phone him even whilst he was at school, then again at 3pm and non stop until 4pm when she knew he’d arrive home. If he wouldn’t answer she’d ring my mobile then the house - if I asked what she wanted she’d ask how my son was. I can only describe it as an unhealthy obsession with him. She did not have this with my youngest child and has chosen one person from each generation I.e. me, she took me in but my siblings went to care. She’d buy toys and clothes for me by nothing for my siblings or cousins. The result of this is a very dysfunctional and bitter family.

I’ve seen her stop my nephew from going into her house and send him out (aged 2) and when my other nephew arrived, she’d make a fuss of him and tell him to go to the sweets cupboard. Just choosing one child each time? It’s bizarre. She has three children yet they’ve not spoken to each for over 30 years because of jealousy, she’s favoured her son and it’s made the other two resentful. A mother should prevent this, she should intervene and make sure her children were friends but my GM has never done so. My mum has MS and only lives up the road but GM won’t visit, saying “they never come and see me so why should I”? She turns it all around her and if I challenge her she either cries or gets very angry.

So, since March I have sent money to GM for my son each month, along with a food shop from Tesco so she wouldn’t have to carry shopping (she’s 80 and does not drive). I also buy his clothes or whatever he needs. He stared a new school near GM’s and I have never been kept informed of his progress. He had a lot of friends here before we left for the refuge so he’s settled in well, a popular boy.

Here is the problem, my son has began to cotton on to the fact that I am guilt ridden. I booked a trip to Harry Potter Studios for his birthday and a stay in London for x2 nights. I came home from this trip to a letter from GM asking for money as she wanted to buy his present. I gave her £100, then my son said the trip to HP wasn’t good enough and he needed trainers, clothes and a football. He wouldn’t visit me to pick these up so I had to pay for the parcel delivery. There was a 6 weeks period where I was out of Univeristy so not receiving funding and waiting for my DBS checks to clear, so not yet in work. I was living on CTC and CB during this time and It was incredibly stressful. I explained I couldn’t send money until I started working but the whole time I received nasty letters and calls from my GM demanding money. I looked at all the receipts for what I’ve sent or spent on him and I’ve paid more than I am legally obliged to but it’s not been enough. He doesn’t answer calls or texts unless he wants something.
I’ve set up a DD to my GM today, to pay towards his care, I’ve taken him for his school uniform and shoes. But it never seems enough - he always wants more and I don’t have it.

I sent a text to my cousin tonight and asked her to let my GM know that the money will be in the bank tomorrow. My cousin replied that I should be ashamed of myself as GM is raising my son.

I am ashamed of myself. Each day I weep with shame, I miss my son as a young child. But I’m ashamed to admit I don’t like the person he is now.

He came to stay here a week ago and because I asked him to turn his phone off to sleep, he started punching walls and shouting again. He refused to give it. My GM said he’s perfect with her and only misbehaves for me. My son has recently admitted he smokes, he’s been seen walking with my mum and smoking. He has just turned 14.

My previous partner was awarded EOW, this didn’t last - women and the drink came first. He is of no support / it’s just me and my daughter.

My grandmother raised me for 33 years yet as soon as my son went to live with her she stopped contact with me and my younger child. We live two counties away and have nonone. I struggle financially between rent, childcare, uniforms and my home is falling apart. I see friends settling down, marrying and building their dream homes and I pray the electric will still be on when I get in.

I only have my youngest child and job, without them I’d give up. Where do I go from here? It was my birthday last month and I didn’t receive a single card from them. I live in a beautiful place and am so grateful but I’m so lonely. I binge eat when my child is asleep at night. Will it get better? I’ve blocked my son’s number because he only spoke to me when he wanted money.
I wish I could go back and turn the clock.

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Hannahhaddock · 30/08/2018 23:52

I’m about to go to sleep so I can’t write loads although I want to, I hopefully can find this thread in the morning !

But I want to say that you should not feel ashamed, you are not a bad person. You are a good person that a lot of bad things have happened to.

I must go to sleep, but hopefully can talk more tomorrow.

Oh and incase you haven’t heard it for a long time, lots of love. 💗

noego · 30/08/2018 23:58

Didn't want to read and run. My immediate thoughts are for you to seek professional help from organisations like Women's Aid and NAPAC and maybe a DV helpline. If you feel the need to talk to someone without judgement then maybe the Samaritans can help.
There is a lot going on in your life that needs sorting out once and for all, A line needs to be drawn in the sand and from that a need to move on.
Flowers

PearlandRubies194 · 31/08/2018 06:55

Thank you both,

I’ve been referred to the local mental health service and my first appointment is in two weeks. I take Sertraline each day and we have Team Around the Family coming each week. TAF is for my daughter’s benefit as she has struggled with her father coming in and out of her life as he pleases followed by her brother leaving. I found her crying in the garden and listened to her naming her friends and their siblings I.e. “Sarah has Sam, Jess has Emma - I don’t have anyone now”. (Not the real names, I contacted TAF after this and her school have been an amazing support).

Her father has never hit or punched me but he is like a heavy weight on my mind, I completed the Freedom course whilst in refuge and found it so beneficial. I’ve not been in a relationship since, in 6 years, as I wanted to focus on the children and I have too much baggage to put onto someone else, but I’ll be honest - I’m desperately lonely and when things keep breaking in the house, there are times I wish I had someone around.

My ex had started a relationship whilst we were inl refuge, a brief one fuelled by alcohol. Previously, I arranged a little tea party in the garden for our daughter’s first birthday and he didn’t turn up, he didn’t turn up to her Baptism either. This was when we still lived near him. Later, I’ve invited him to her Parents’ Evening, school plays, Sports Days etc and he’s never turned up. I even offered for him to stay here at Christmas Eve so he could watch her open her gifts - all of this even though there’s a Restraining Order in place - because I want him to be in her life. He always used to say that our daughter would turn out like me if I stopped him seeing her (a psycho, he’d say) and I’ve always tried to keep them together.

It takes four hours and four buses for me to take her to her father’s address as I can’t drive. It takes him 20 minutes in a car; but he won’t pick up or drop off and expects me to take her to his doorstep even though the Court Order rules we should meet half way. He’s turned up to handover drunk, or not turned up at all. He sent her to a relative’s to sleep during one weekend so he could have a girlfriend over to stay. Our daughter was only two at the time, it still hurts. She had to stay at her Aunt’s even though she only went to his EOW, so his girlfriend and her two children could stay the night.

The latest was two months ago; he said unless I’m happy to take her to his door then he won’t see her again. Usually I’d cave in but I stood firm and said “no, half way as C.O states”. She has not seen him since. He’s nearly 50 and has recently become a Grandfather, so not a young, first-time father. He has two children in their 20s and he was very violent towards their mother too.

When I started my new job last month, I had to visit the same area as the refuge we were in was. I support women each day who are going through what I did and it has brought so much flashbacks, I even dream about my ex.

My main hurt now is my son, who was such a lovely child - he’s been through so much trauma because of me, my mental health and the DA. It’s not surprising that his behaviour changed. But - and I’d never say this in RL - it’s as though as he hates me and his sister now. He’s 14 and she’s 6, a large age gap and I don’t expect them to be best friends but he kicks her, pushes her, shouts at her. He looks at me with such hatred in his eyes.

I’ve only seen him x3 times since he left in March and each time he’s made me feel terrible. He won’t respect rules. I asked him not to have a shower as it wasn’t working properly, he had a shower and it came off the wall completely.

During the last weeks that he lived here, he would spit phlemb on his bedroom walls. Every day I’d ask him not to throw food wrappers behind his bed and each day he would. Each day was a constant battle with him. He’d scream at me for hours if I wouldn’t let him go to a party in an area where I don’t know anyone. Or he’d tell me to my face that he’d been to Boxing class but he hadn’t been at all.

I know this sounds awful but my home is a calmer environment since he left - my daughter (6) no longer cries because she’s hurt, she plays with her toys nicely, the neighbour’s children come over to play, I don’t live in fear of him anymore.

But he is my son 😢 I worry about his future - he is harbouring deep resentment and anger and I fear this will manifest in his future relationships. Or worse, if he is smoking now and has been arrested, with a total disregard for rules - what if ends up in prison? I fear he’ll turn to drugs or become suicidal.

He tells me what my GM tells her friends about me, it’s a small town where everyone knows everyone. She has told her friends that I threw him out and don’t pay towards his keep. I didn’t and I have receipts that show I’ve paid. I shouldn’t worry what people say especially as I no longer live there, but it’s not nice.

This woman raised me, but she’s caused so much pain. She saved me from my mother as a child yet had she been a better and loving mother - maybe my mum would have been normal like my friend’s? I wasn’t allowed friends and if I wanted to stay at my mum’s as a child, my GM would cry and make me feel bad. She would tell me I would put her in an early grave.

I used to beg her not to give my son sweets whilst I was st work because I didn’t want him to be overweight like me - then I’d look through the window and she’d be telling him to get her treats box out and they’d be giggling. I had to work until 10pm one Christmas Eve and he had to stay at hers. I begged her not to let him open his gifts until I arrived the next morning - I arrived at 7am and he’s opened them all. She would always run my mother down and my mother has always run my GM down and yet since my son moved in with GM they’re very close.

Last night threw me; I sent a text to a cousin to let her know that I’ve set up a direct debit to GM’s bank, only for her to tell me “tell her yourself, she’s raising your child and you should have done it months ago”. I did ring GM and told her I only recently started working but I’ve always paid what I could. She said “this is your own fault for kicking your son out” - but I never did. I DID NOT kick him out - he left because he didn’t like my rules.

My best friend and sister tell me that he is playing games between us and he is playing on my guilt. He only speaks to me when he wants money. The TAF workers say my GM is emotionally abusive.

All I know is that each day I become more tired. I stuff my face with food and hate myself each morning. I have a beautiful daughter who is my whole world and I’d do anything for her, but immeaten by guilt for feeling this way when I don’t feel this towards my son. I feel guilt and hurt when I think of him.

I get up each day and face the world and I come home each night and if it wasn’t for my daughter I’d hit the bottle to numb it all out.

Thank you for reading, I have to go to work now but I’ll come back later.

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SandyY2K · 31/08/2018 07:59

First I'd like to congratulate you on your academic achievements. You've done extremely well and Lord only knows what more you would have achieved with a stable upbringing.

I really think you'd benefit from having therapy, but in the meanwhile stop feeling guilty. Stop being blackmailed by your son and cut contact with your cousins who add nothing to your life.

If your Gran wants to buy your son a gift, then she should pay for it. Stop caving in to these demands and respond that you don't have the money.

It's hard to know if any one individual is to blame... I think everyone mentioned has suffered dysfunction and bern deeply affected by how they've been treated... your mum, GM, cousins and your children.

It's very sad indeed...but your only hope may be going NC with some of them... excluding your GM and your DS.

Forget the father of your DD...He's a waste of space. If he doesnt want a relationship with his DD...that's his choice.

Most people who've been through what you have would have taken a different path in life. You should be proud of yourself.

PearlandRubies194 · 31/08/2018 11:27

Thank you so, so much 😘

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