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DP lied, considering whole relationship

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ClaryFray · 29/08/2018 19:19

Hi all,

In need of some advice. DP and I have been together 18 months. I have one child, and he has two. Boys get on but the two older ones 7 and 8 often have power struggles due to who is going to be top dog. DP stays with me and my ds, several nights a week. And with his mum other nights.

Last Monday I caught him out in a lie. We were sat in the bedroom and DPs ex wife called, he dropped the call and refused to call her back. Saying later, later. Very odd because he's a good dad. And loves speaking to his children. I pushed and he eventually called her back, turns out that ex had given him a key to (their jointly owned) her house and asked him to feed the cat while away. He 'forgot' to mention this to me. Which may seem like a small issue but honesty is important to me, and there has been many issues with ex wife trying to split us up, refusing to engage in the divorce, and causing issues with the children telling them that I am not to be spoken to or listened too. Wasn't the Ow although knew him when they were ending their marriage because she hit him.

We spoke about this incident and I asked him is there anything else he needs to tell me. He said no. Life continued as normal. Well on Monday, she called again. I assumed to let the children speak to their dad and let him know they made it home safely. DP dropped the call saying, it's his mum. I had already seen the picture flash up on the phone, and knew it was her. He made an excuse about calling his mum back later and I pressed the issue because we had spent afternoon with his mum and wondered if thee was a problem as she's recently broken her foot.

So he calls his mum back and his mum sweats blue she didn't call him. He insists she had, and she eventually says maybe it's a pocket dial.

DP leaves shortly after to travel to see his brother. I leave it all evening, not saying I know it was ex who called and eventually confront him the next morning to which he starts to try to say it was his mum until I tell him that I saw the picture on his phone. He eventually comes clean but tells me the reason he lied is because she asked him to feed the. Cat and he was worried I'd be upset as its not appropriate him doing so.

This has been the strinf of a lot. I don't believe he wants her back but I think mentally he is still there. She says jump and he says how high. He's scared she'll take the boys away from him but won't sort a real arrangement out for contact incase it upsets her. Today he was meant to see the boys and she was being awkward and I told him to find out and stop fannying round her I wanted to know if we could go out for the afternoon or not. And he said he didn't want to upset her today because it would have been there wedding anniversary.

AIBU to want some space to sort my head out over this. Honesty is the most important thing to me and he knows this. Yet he lied about something so simple and stupid (apparently) that I'm questioning the bigger things.

We have spoken about moving in buy my senses are telling me hold out incase this gets worse. I feel like there is three people in my relationship. And when I talk to him he gets defensive, it becomes a mud slinging point scoring mess and nothinh changes.

He bends over backwards to help her, but seems to treat me like shit.

Advice please?

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OP posts:
Shambu · 30/08/2018 07:26

It's never good to be in a relationship with someone who lies easily. How can you trust anything they say?

milestoneBD · 30/08/2018 11:30

He was gaslighting his own mother.
He's doing the same to you. LTB.

HarmlessChap · 30/08/2018 11:58

It comes across that you feel it's inappropriate for him to feed the cat. I presume that this cat was both thier pet once?

He shouldn't lie though but nor should it be seen as him helping her out, I think he should take responsibility for feeding it when she can't.

HereIgoagainxx · 30/08/2018 12:03

In the big scheme of things, it's feeding a cat that is presumably also his kids' pet.

I wonder if he is also afraid of you, op.

BackInTheRoom · 30/08/2018 16:18

@ClaryFray

Was his ex abusive during their relationship then? Was it prominent during the relationship?

blueangel1 · 30/08/2018 16:26

My DP was (badly) abused by his ex. It took a while for me to learn the extent of it, and it was several months before I found out that her main means of control was threatening to kill herself and the youngest DC. I'd suggest you need to find out what she is using as her means of controlling him, as it might explain his fear of her.

HeckyPeck · 30/08/2018 16:36

He was gaslighting his own mother.
He's doing the same to you. LTB.

Yep!

Clairetree1 · 30/08/2018 16:39

how can you be jealous of a cat?

ClaryFray · 30/08/2018 16:47

Seriously I am not jealous of the flaming cat. I'm angry he lied. The cat came into it because that's what he chose to lie about. Otherrwise I wouldn't mention the cat.

It was more controlling, she liked things her own way. She hit him once I think in there whole relationship.

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HeckyPeck · 30/08/2018 16:52

Regardless of his previous relationship. He lied to OP and gaslighted his own mother. It’s sad how many people’s standards are so low that they wouldn’t be bothered by this.

Lifeisabeach09 · 30/08/2018 17:06

Do you really want a relationship with a guy who lies to you, lies to his mother, and is under his exes' thumb?

Plus he treats you 'like shit.'

End the relationship and find someone you can trust.

Nikephorus · 30/08/2018 17:11

She is manipulative and controlling, often threatens to not let him see the kids if she doesnt get her own way. She's been difficult since I've known him and I cant understand why he bends over backwards to do her favours that aren't related to his children.
You can't understand why he bends over backwards even though you know she threatens to not let him see the kids?! Hello!!!!
I totally understand why he's not telling you about the cat because you're obviously hostile about anything involving the ex so he feels he has to hide it. For his sake you should split up or he's going to have a second relationship where he's walking on eggshells and being controlled.

Bestseller · 30/08/2018 17:52

Beware the man with a neurotic or controlling ex IME he's either making it up to justify his current or past behaviour or he created the monster by his own behaviour towards her

Dancingtothemusicoftime · 30/08/2018 20:22

I agree with a PP - he's scared of you too, OP.

spottybetty · 30/08/2018 20:26

He bends over backwards to help her, but seems to treat me like shit.

Doesn't he have a house, OP? He stays over at yours a lot. And at his mum's. Is he using you? If you're feeling uncomfortable or as if you'd like more space, I wouldn't blame you.

HeckyPeck · 30/08/2018 21:01

I agree with a PP - he's scared of you too, OP.

Balls! This man is a liar and gaslighted his own mother!

Dancingtothemusicoftime · 30/08/2018 21:09

He wanted his mum to back his version because he was scared of the OP's reaction. It wasn't a sensible thing to do but he clearly is wary of the OP's response so was trying to build a defence. He behaved in exactly the same way that millions of abused women do when trying to prevent their partners going off on one.

I am NOT suggesting that the OP is abusive, simply that her DP's responses are those of someone who has been in an abusive relationship before where he walks on eggshells and that is now his learned response to conflict.

HeckyPeck · 30/08/2018 21:12

He behaved in exactly the same way that millions of abused women do when trying to prevent their partners going off on one.

It’s also the exact same way liars act.

53rdWay · 30/08/2018 21:31

also, does the cat thing explain why he didn’t answer the call and lied about who was calling? Why would he assume she was calling about the cat? And even if she was be’s already told you he’s agreed to feed the cat anyway, so what does he have to gain by pretending she hasn’t called him?

ClaryFray · 30/08/2018 21:33

He has a house the house he owns with wc wife and they are trying to sort that out too. In the mean time he has no where else to live so stayed with me, and his mum when he had the kids. Because my place is too small and it's too soon to thrust the kids together. He says he can't live on his own because he can't afford it.

I'm not abusive and he has no reason to be scared of me. Or my reaction, I wouldn't have kicked off. Some of you are assuming a lot. I'm annoyed because he lied, if he's have told me I'd have said it's a bit weird she's relying on you but do what you want. It's not my concern if he wants to spend his evenings checking on a cat. It's the fact he lied about it to me, then went to great lengths to cover it up.

I told him from the start that honesty was the most important thinf to me, and he's disregarded that. We're taking some time apart, some space to reevaluate. If he is ready to move on, and if I can trust him again. We have a holiday together in 2 weeks we'll discuss matters after that.

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TwentySmackeroos · 30/08/2018 23:38

I think to be honest there are many ties that bind, and your man is struggling with boundaries and fearful you will kick off (‘I knew you’d be mad, this is exactly why I didn’t tell you’). To give him the benefit of the doubt, he may have the fear-obligation-guilt thing going on, and feeding the cat is a thing that seems ‘unreasonable’ to refuse to do. He has handled it badly, but I wouldn’t automatically suspect nefarious doings; it’s a roadblock in your relationship to be sure. His living arrangements sound terrible. This sounds like an uphill relationship. I hope you get to sort it out, if you want to.

BackInTheRoom · 31/08/2018 07:31

'Wasn't the Ow although knew him when they were ending their marriage because she hit him.'

I wonder if she hit him at the point she found out about his affair(s)?

'She hit him once I think in there whole relationship.'

So no history of DV then?

'Seriously I am not jealous of the flaming cat. I'm angry he lied.'

Don't all cheaters lie? I mean they have to while they're eating 'cake'?

'*He was gaslighting his own mother. He's doing the same to you'
*
Don't cheaters Gaslight?

'He bends over backwards to help her, but seems to treat me like shit'

I'm thinking it's because of guilt? He feels guilty he had the affair, guilty he told people the reason he left was because of DV? I don't condone dv, his wife shouldn't have hit him. But he cannot admit this to anyone because it would blow his alibi of why he left/cheated and why he is being nice to his EXW and lying to you?

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