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OH no compromise with work - long!

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POPholditdown · 25/08/2018 09:53

I work nights OH works days, both FT. I spend time during the day looking after a relative in various ways (appointments, grocery shopping, general assistance). This isn’t everyday, there’s no set routine, it’s as and when but it is regular.

I have a shift premium which allows us to have some disposable income. If I went back to days I’d lose this and we’d be ‘breaking even’. (We need some extra as the house is old and we need to save improvements)

The thing is, working nights has really fucked with my mental health. There is no flexibility in my job. I end up working 3 on, 1 off, 6 on, 1 off, then 5 on, and on occasion have 2 nights off together. By the time it gets to my weekend off I’m dead.

If I went for a ‘basic’ day job, we’d need to make up for some my premium loss (depending on the job, I could possibly make up for half the premium in a another position). OH is absolutely not interested in another job, which could bring in some extra money, to even things out. As a compromise, I have offered to take most household duties, as I’d be much more rested working better hours.

The job he does is fairly easy to come by where we live, and there have been opportunities for him to do the exact same job, much better hours but just earn a little extra. But he says he wants to staywhere he is and it’s not fair on him to change. Part of me thinks that I’ve sacrificed for sometime now, in a job that is quite detrimental (put it this way,I made an error when I was exhausted, came close to dismissal and I actually felt relieved at the thought). I’m not asking him to sign his life away, I’m asking for a year or two compromise. He has some debt pre-me, and I have some in my name which I had to use for emergency house repairs. If our finances stayed more or less the same, we can get rid of this debt in 2-3 years. We’ll have more flexibility then to do what we want rather than what we need to.

I’m also interested in completing a qualification eventually, to be able to get a better paid job. This isn’t due to it being a ‘passion’ or a dream career, it’s because this is where the opportunities lie here, and would give us both much more flexibility in the future.

But this will take time and money. I’d probably be able to pay for this next year, but I can’t last another year+ on these shifts, with caring and a course on top (it’s a relatively cheap course so doable financially with careful planning)

I sometimes feel like just being selfish, taking the next available job, regardless of salary but I know we’d struggle quite a bit. I am currently toing and froing on applying for a one which is ideal in every way for right now, except for the pay.

To be clear, I’m not expecting to him to double his salary and walk in to a high flying career. I’m not expecting him to be the higher earner foreve, or to give up a career he’s worked years to get to. I’m just asking for some compromise so I can reclaim my MH. (My total salary is common for his job role) As an example, the same job he does has come up paying close to what I get now, he knows half the staff, it’s in a similar location so no extra travel. But no, he wont consider it. He ‘just doesn’t want to work there’.

I genuinely don’t know if my job/mh is affecting the way I’m looking at this situation. I don’t want this to be a case of ‘I’m suffering so you should too’, but I don’t think I’m asking that. I’m asking for a temporary sideways step, which I think would help a great deal.

We talk about having DC in the future too, and one of my main worries is how we’d cope if he’s not willing to consider earning a little extra, just to keep us afloat until I would be able to go back to work (in the ‘new’ career path, fingers crossed)

Just to add, we generally cooperate well in other areas, there aren’t many problems, it’s just that this is casting quite a big shadow on things.

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Aftershock15 · 25/08/2018 11:34

If you only put your basic salary into the common pot and kept all the shift premium for yourself how long would it take you to save for your course? Could you manage the shifts for that length of time? If it’s bearable it would give you both the chance to start operating on the lower budget, and give you a fixed target when you swap to days and start the course. Don’t prioritise his happiness above your own.

POPholditdown · 25/08/2018 11:35

Both of us being on 17k would be fine if we didn’t have both have debt (mortgage not included in this obv). We’ve been on the same wavelength in the past, and I’ll be honest, never been career minded.

My ‘ambition’ is a bit false in a way (not sure how to phrase it better) it’s literally because I’ve noticed the opportunities in this industry, so by going in that direction I’d know that we were set for life. In the sense that if we suddenly had to take on more debt, or once we did have DC, we’d be secure financially.

Since I’ve been talking about getting a better career, he has been thinking about it too and what he wants to do. Ideally he’d like to progress within the industry he’s in, however it’s very difficult to do so. In the past year there hasn’t been one ‘superior’ role advertised in his sector.

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LadyLapsang · 25/08/2018 11:54

Given you have a mortgage on your salaries, I'm presuming you live somewhere with limited opportunities for career advancement. How much debt do you have? Maybe he would be happier taking a second job at the weekends to pay off his debt.

seven201 · 25/08/2018 11:55

Your health is more important than the extra money. My DH is a bit like yours. He was an apprentice for his company and there's just no way he'll ever leave. If he went freelance he could earn more, but he just doesn't have the confidence. Since having dc he does do overtime if it comes up and if we were in financial dire straits he would change things. I think take things one step at a time. Change your job then tackle dh and his approach to jobs/wages. Health first!

RightyHoChaps · 25/08/2018 11:59

Both of you need to be happy in your jobs. I've been in a job where my mental health suffered... it was bloody awful and even after I returned to work they made it worse again so I quit.

I can understand totally where you are coming from OP. You need to look after your mental health. That is paramount. Other things will suffer else - your relationship, your house, your ability to juggle the daily demands of running a house. It will all become affected.

But your OP should not be pushed into a job that he doesn't want to go into. His mental health should not be sacrificed either.

Could you try and find a compromise where you both find jobs that you are happy to be in and pay the amounts you are looking for? Maybe other things need to be sacrificed for the money you are trying to put towards home improvements? Have you got a tv package you could do without for a while? Other little treats that you could sacrifice temporarily?

POPholditdown · 25/08/2018 12:02

JennyHolzersGhost

Very possible! I might be misreading him, as I’ve normally had a heated conversation in my head about changing jobs before I even get to him lol! So I’m prepared with a big speech and he’s agreeing too earlyGrin

If you only put your basic salary into the common pot and kept all the shift premium for yourself how long would it take you to save for your course?

I’ll be honest, I’ve never thought about doing this. Our income has always been ‘ours’ rather than individual, I’m just using ‘mine and his’ for clarity here. Even as a newish couple, there was never any ‘I’ll pay today but you owe me’.

I think it’d take 6 months, if there weren’t any emergencies. There’s a 2nd level course to be able to get the maximum benefits from it, but I’d probably try to work in the sector before doing the 2nd to gain experience.

I might feel a bit better doing this actually, as it’s then ‘only’ 6 more months until a definitive goal rather than doing the course ‘at some point’.

Great suggestion, thanks!

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POPholditdown · 25/08/2018 12:14

But your OP should not be pushed into a job that he doesn't want to go into. His mental health should not be sacrificed either.

And this is why I posted. I’ve been in my own head for so long, I’ve struggled to see clearly that actually yes he could do the same job elsewhere, but it could be a nightmare. I’ve been seeing that as a ‘quick fix’ but there are better options, and it might not have fixed anything.

Honestly we have very little expense in terms of ‘luxury’, and it’s not because we’re even trying to be frugal we’re just boring! lol. And we’ve prioritised debts over anything else.

I have a phone contract which is finally coming to an end, and I’m going on a cheap sim only deal next month but that’s more or less it.

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