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Wife doesn't know what she wants.

6 replies

whatsamantodo · 08/08/2018 13:18

Hi,
Hoping someone can offer some advice.
My wife told me early last year the "love you but not in love with you" line. We've been together for 10 years, married for 6, We have one 5 yr old child.
We've had issues communicating in our relationship. When I'm not happy about something, I normally ask for what I want clearly and then she tells me she can't meet my high expectations and gets upset. So overtime I find it hard to talk to her and find myself walking on eggshells. When she's not happy about something she shows anger/annoyance but won't actually try to communicate with me kindly. If I start asking questions about what she wants to understand her better or express my own concerns because what she is asking for is unfair then she bursts into tears and storms off. We've been to couples therapy but it's not proved productive. I've tried to suggest we do relationship exercises like values and expectations etc but she refuses or won't take an active part. She moved out of the bedroom over a year ago and has barely touched me since. Just "man" hugs in the morning and evening. She says she cant have physical affection without emotional connection but then isn't doing anything to try to forge an emotional connection. When I ask her what she means she talks romantic gestures like buying flowers, which I've tried but then she's criticised how I've done it. She hasn't initiated any conversations on the relationship and when I do she just gets super defensive and devalues anything good I say or good about our relationship. I've asked her if she wants to stay together and says she's not sure - too scared to stay, too scared to leave. Occasionally she will come to me and say she is upset and I ask her about what and she says "how things are between us" but won't make any suggestions about how we can improve things and when I make suggestions she just poo poos them. I get the sense that with things left unresolved they can continue to be 'used' so it's almost like she doesn't want to resolve things.
She is upset about things I've said and done in the past (up to 10-12 years ago) things I've apologised for and made commitment to avoid in future (despite none of it being that serious - others including friends and family think they are non-issues). She's asked for more romance - which I've tried and she's not seemed to appreciate. She's told me she wants unconditional love (that doesn't sounds healthy to me) and to "feel it in her heart" (not sure what I can do about that). I've tried to have conversations about these things but she clams up. She is generally nice day-to-day in a platonic way. Although now and then when she wants me to do something that I don't want to, then she walks off passive aggressively and doesn't say goodbye to me or our child. I'm concerned this is unhealthy for all 3 of us to stay in this dynamic long term but don't know what to do about it and she seems stuck, not knowing what she wants and unable or unwilling to do anything about it. I feel like it's time to call it a day but I'm worried about our child and I almost feel like she's just going through some crisis and will "wake up" from it but I also know she's had similar issues with her family and never made any real effort to resolve that either.
so frustrating!

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AttilaTheMeerkat · 08/08/2018 13:26

That I love you but am not in love with you line made me think that she has had or is planning an affair, she may well have had her head turned by someone else.

What do you get out of this relationship now, what is keeping you with her?. What did she learn about relationships when she was growing up?. She has I note had similar issues with her family. What sort of an example did her own parents show her?
She seems quite happy to have you around as her whipping boy.

The phrase too that you use, "walking on eggshells" is often written by people who are in abusive relationships. Would you actually consider her behaviour abusive because it does seem that way. Her behaviours towards you seem to be rooted in power and control.

What do you want to teach your child about relationships, surely not this example of one?. I'd be more worried about the long term effects on your child particularly if you choose to stay with her.

noego · 08/08/2018 13:31

She's checked out of the relationship emotionally but hasn't got the balls to end it. Probably because she has a fear of the future.
One of you needs to end it as you're going round in circles.
No matter what you do, she's proved she isn't happy. How many times are you going to bang your head against the brick wall?

annandale · 08/08/2018 13:36

I'd ask more about the couples counselling and what happened there. However, overall id agree that she probably wants the relationship to end but not to end it herself. It might not be that clear in her own mind though.

m0vinf0rward · 08/08/2018 13:39

Time to force her hand one way or the other. Sitting on the fence waiting for things to impryor her to make her mind up is no way to live. I agree with previous posters, she's had her head turned and if not done so already, is probably thinking about cheating. In your position I'd may down a time line. Say if she hasn't decided and committed 100% to the marriage, then YOU will end it. Make the time line short, say 2 weeks. This may shock her into taking stock, if not then you have your answer and can look to your future without her. Either way make sure you take care of the legal side 1st before the ultimatum, see a solicitor asap. Good luck (btw I'm a bloke so understand the extract situation you find yourself in).

Shoxfordian · 08/08/2018 13:41

It's fairly obvious what she wants; a divorce. She's not making any effort with you.

GreenFingersWouldBeHandy · 08/08/2018 13:42

I think she is being very unfair and stringing you along because as other have said, she hasn't got the balls to end it.

I think you should call her bluff. Who does the majority of the childcare? They should stay in the family home and the other one of you should leave and get on with your life.

As poster above says, get legal advice. But don't settle for this. Life is too short.

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