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Breaking free

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FreedomRules · 03/08/2018 11:41

Hi all, long term poster but name changed for this.

I am trying to break free from my parents. It’s a very long and boring saga but here are the basics:

I am in early middle age, single, no kids. I have siblings who have partners and kids. I get in ok with them though I wouldn’t say we’re close. The past few years we have all come to be on the same page regarding our nutty, abusive parents, so at least that’s something.

All my memories of childhood make me sad. I only ever remember feeling alone and ashamed of myself, and particularly through my teens all I can recall is being terrified of my parents, though I can’t really pin down the reason why except that they never allowed me to be ill or upset about anything and if I was, would shame me and tell me I was an awful person who had nothing to be upset about. So obviously I hid my emotional life from them and always have done. I think to analyse it that they couldn’t cope with their own emotions or with the thought that a child of theirs was anything less than perfect with a perfect life and so they were totally unable to cope with children.

I left home at 18 and never looked back. I now have a successful career, friends and a life I like, though I’ve never managed to build a good long term relationship with a partner (I did, predictably, have a couple of badly abusive relationships when I was much younger), probably in large part because of my fear of relationships due to my upbringing. I’m happy single, however. My whole adult life I have not wanted to see my parents, have begrudged spending the minimum amount of time with them I could get away with, work colleagues have known when I was going to see them for a weekend because of the dip in my mood in the week before and after, and so on.

As they’ve got older it’s got much harder. Their relationship has descend into mutually abusive warfare and they keep trying to pull me and my siblings in to take sides, in really nasty manipulative ways. Details would be identifying, but it’s horrible. When I or my siblings tell them not to do this they take no notice and attack instead: I am a horrible undutiful daughter etc. Any boundaries set get steamrollered over. They allow no sense that I know anything about anything; one of them is threatened by my professional success and keeps lecturing me about my own subject (about which they know far less than I do, but I’m not allowed to disagree with them), and the other keeps making snide put downs about my choice of career and how worthless it is.

They also reserved the right until very recently just to turn up on my doorstep and come and stay whenever they pleased, no matter what my plans were, and expected full service waiting on while they were there. One of them has got to a stage where they wander around all night, waking the whole household.

I have spent years working on myself, being in therapy, etc, and I know I can’t change them or my past but I can change the way I react to them. The thing is, after many years, a couple of months ago after yet another abusive screed of an email, I realised I could do this no longer. I can’t change myself enough to take such treatment with equanimity and I don’t think it’s fair to ask me to. I then had a blissful few weeks of deciding I was simply going to ignore all contact from them and do me, put my own feelings first for once. I started eating better, exercising, had so much more energy, life looked so much brighter, and I lost 5kg in two months (I’ve been overweight by about 10-15 kg my entire adult life).

Then there was a blip when one of them became dangerously ill (due to neglect of their own health and inability to take any medical advice or instructions) and I got pulled back in. I have now stepped back again but this has emboldened them to start up the emails again, one minute telling me what a bad daughter I am, the next how much they love and value me, the next offering me money, and the next saying they are going to come and stay with me again. I haven’t replied to any.

I’ve left out of this post the worst of the emotional abuse they’ve inflicted over my lifetime. Right now, all I’m interested in is that I know I feel so much better when I simply refuse to engage with them, when I stop worrying about how they’re feeling or the warped way they see the world and see me, and just let myself be me and do what makes me feel alive. I think that is enough justification for me abandoning my ill elderly parents to their own devices.

However, I can’t quite stop the guilt and arguments in my head which say that I’m overreacting, that they’re vulnerable and elderly and sick, and I go through endless loops of trying to justify not seeing them. Nobody else in real life seems to understand this either; I don’t talk about it because I get a lot of judgement. So I feel very alone.

Right now I’m unsure whether to block all emails and communications and just stop responding or to send a final email and then block. Nothing I say will make them think I have the tiniest scintilla of a point, however, so I think I will just quietly continue ghosting.

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RivanQueen · 03/08/2018 12:02

Hi FreedomRules I couldn't read and run, it sounds like you had a hell of a hard childhood being raised by these people. I'm not in your situation so I can't offer advise from that perspective but what I will say is given you feel so happy and free when you have no contact with these people I would go NC completely. I understand they are elderly and sick but from what you say they have done nothing to earn your respect or your time and if anything, all spending time with them will do is cause you more emotional trauma and pain and you have spent so long working your way through years of that already. I don't think it's harsh of you to write one last e-mail, explain your going NC and why (it may make no difference to them but it might make you feel better) and then block them. Then you can move forward as a happier healthier person.
Other people in a similar situation may have better advise than me.
Sending you Flowers

FreedomRules · 03/08/2018 12:10

Thank you Rivan. I think what I most wanted in posting was some understanding and someone telling me I wasn’t a terrible person for wanting this. Much appreciated.

(One of the most harmful things in recent years has been the therapist who after months of listening to my story told me that my parents only belittle me and refuse to accept I have valid knowledge or emotions and don’t want to know anything about the real me, is because they love me so much they can’t cope with me being sad. And I should understand this and forgive them. It took me quite a while to realise what bollocks he was talking. Apart from anything else, when I love someone I want to know them properly, and if they are feeling sad or ill I want to sympathise and help if I can, not to tell them never to mention it because it upsets me, let alone shame them for feeling less than perfect).

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CassandraLamontaigne · 03/08/2018 12:30

Freedom I don't have experience in this area but you are not a terrible person. If anyone else treated you this way you would be correctly advised to leave them well alone. Because it's your parents it's more complicated. But if a friend was in your position what would you advise? (NC I hope!)

You might take a look at the stately Homes thread. I read it sometimes and Attila the Meerkat seems to give good advice

If I were you I wouldn't send a final message, it would have the potential to open you up to attack from your parents

I'm horrified by what the therapist told you - nobody should treat anyone like your parents treated you.

Well done on breaking free and in creating a happy life for yourself Flowers

RivanQueen · 03/08/2018 14:15

That is terrible advise from your therapist! I'm glad you saw it for the bullshit it is and hopefully you're not seeing them anymore. The advise to read the Stately Homes thread is a good one, lots of posters on there in similar situations.
You are not a terrible person for wanting to remove toxic people from your life it's completely understandable even when those people are your parents. Sending hugs.

FreedomRules · 03/08/2018 15:16

I tend to agree that a final message isn’t necessary. Blocking them won’t end it because they will try and get messages to me via the siblings. But I have been able lately to say to the siblings that I’m not talking to the parents at the moment and they’ve been supportive of that. In the end I’d rather lose the relationship with the rest of the family, siblings included, than be forced to continue being in touch with my parents, though.

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ArkAtEe · 03/08/2018 15:19

You are not a terrible person.

I understand how hard the guilt is for wanting to break free from your parents. It sounds like you have tried many different approaches to maintain a relationship with your parents but that you have now exhausted your options. We have to try to let go of what we can't control, and focus only on what we can.

It might feel selfish, especially if they don't have long left, but we tried and there comes a point when there is not much else we can do.

FreedomRules · 03/08/2018 18:08

Thank you. Yes, I feel I’m out of options. Every individual interaction with them feels like I’m doing them a huge favour, making them happy by allowing them to do their thing and playing along, with only transient damage to my mental health and well-being, but over time these little damages all add up. I’ve had depression in the past (not that they know - I’d never dare tell them) and life just feels a little greyer and more awful with them in it. Or a lot greyer and more awful.

It only occurred to me very recently that actually, my happiness and my needs ARE as important as theirs. I’d never even dared to think this before, they’ve taught me so well that my needs don’t matter, theirs always come first.

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