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At my wit's end

31 replies

dellacucina · 30/07/2018 09:46

I am not sure if I am just being unreasonable.

I feel that I have reached my limit with my partner being dismissive of my feelings, critical, and controlling - however, he says that I am the same. I feel this is just deflection on his part, but how can you tell if you're being unfair?

The most recent example is that he planned a picnic with his friend over the weekend. He made the plan on Saturday for Sunday. I told him that I would want to make something nice to bring along because I am not a fan of packaged food (including all the plastic waste) and my daughter and I have some major allergies between us which makes it difficult to buy food on the fly. He insisted that it would be fine to pick something up at Sainsbury's on the way. I told him I disagreed and I would plan to make something.

Sunday morning, I told him that I had decided to make hummus and some really easy cookies. He immediately informed me it wasn't necessary and we could buy something from a pack. I told him I didn't want to eat food from a pack. This devolved into a shouting match, with him insulting me and saying I always go overboard, I had hijacked his plan for an easy picnic, etc.

This all sounds so petty when I write it out. Things have just reached a point where I can't stand it anymore. I feel that he just makes life so hard.

We also never have sex unless I force the issue. He says if I would be nice everything would be fine, but he doesn't have any interest when I am arguing with him all the time.

I am now trying a new thing where I point out when he is being unpleasant and critical (pretty much all the time). I am refusing to engage when he treats me this way.

As an example, after the picnic we went for a walk and I wanted to move on from the argument and have a nice chat. He said something about how 40 years ago we could have been able to afford a house in the posh neighbourhood where we were walking, and I said something like, but just think, then instead of being a lawyer, I would have been expected to have a more menial job, like a secretary, can you imagine. (there is nothing wrong with being a secretary, but I would find it frustrating to just deal with the admin side of things and I am proud of my abilities as a writer etc).

My point of course was that it would be upsetting to be so limited in opportunities just because I am a woman. He responded by saying, "but you say now that you just want to be a secretary." I responded that of course that isn't true and he said "but you say you want to work in a shop", which is also untrue. The background to this is that I have found it stressful to go back to work post baby and to have to balance so many things, and he constantly complains that I don't make enough money in my relatively family friendly job. I finally put my foot down and told him I will leave him if he keeps insulting my job so I guess this is his way of getting around that restriction.

Rather than allow this to escalate as usual, I just said I was going home and walked off.

The thing is that he undermines me and subtly insults me like this constantly. Is it even possible to break out of this kind of cycle?

I am aware this is quite rambling but I am just looking for perspectives since I am completely out of patience. Is it possible that I am being unreasonable??

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MargoLovebutter · 30/07/2018 13:20

I think you need to both acknowledge how bad things have got. You can't start to change things without both of you truthfully recognising where you've got to. Then you have to decide if you both want things to be better and to make a go of your relationship. If you are agreed, then you probably need to pay for more frequent counselling sessions, so that you can try and find a safe place to talk, and probably most importantly of all listen, without judging, and get back to communicating properly.

However, I am not an expert or in any way qualified to make any of those suggestions.

Also, you need to look at your fears. Your DD didn't choke on the olives that she ate. A stoned olive has a huge hole cut in it, it is not the same as eating a whole grape. Nothing bad happened to your daughter but you still couldn't let it go, you felt you had to criticise, because you were fearful that at some point in the future your DH might give your daughter an olive and she might choke. The chances of any of that happening are tiny, really, really tiny. Every food has the potential to be a choking hazard, but in reality very few people and children and babies choke on food. You're all more at risk of harm coming to you every time you cross a road, but I'm sure you still do that. It sounds like your fear is over-whelming you and that is something you may want to think about looking into.

Cambionome · 30/07/2018 13:35

Tbh I think he sounds absolutely awful, but I may be projecting as he behaves in a very similar way to my stbxh!

The most successful way of dealing with this is just not to engage when he starts with his unpleasant behaviour. Smile, don't react, change the subject, focus on something else... this will wrong foot him and he will either have to shut up or argue with himself. Wink

Long-term - do you really want to stay with him? You sound stressed and unhappy. Keep going with the counselling but don't rule out moving on; no matter how difficult it is to do, it might be better than staying in a relationship where you feel so ground down. Flowers

dellacucina · 30/07/2018 13:53

Thanks, Margo. I can see some of the sense in this.

Cambionome: I am going to keep trying to do this rather than getting sucked into a dispute. There is basically no reasoning with him when he decides he knows best. After the idiotic argument about the picnic food, he more or less acknowledged that he had been unreasonable. He told me I should just tell him when he is being like this - but I actually doubt that he would accept join the moment.

I would prefer to stay with him long term if things could improve, but I do think he is basically a bit selfish and a bit of a dick (while having other positive qualities)

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Karigan198 · 30/07/2018 15:52

Sounds to me like both of you are in a highly defensive position right now and responding to any perceived attack by attacking back.

dellacucina · 30/07/2018 22:01

That's probably right. Things have been ramping up to this for a long time. :(

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DontCallMeCharlotte · 03/08/2018 09:54

Sounds to me like both of you are in a highly defensive position right now and responding to any perceived attack by attacking back.

I think you have hit the nail on the head Karigan198 and also the expressions "pick your battles" and "don't sweat the small stuff" comes to mind. Leaving aside your other thread for a moment, I think this sort of low-level incident could be dealt with more simply:

Him: We're going for a picnic.
You: Okay, I'll make some hummus for me and DD.
Him: [Goes into spiel about just getting stuff from Sainsburys]
You: Whatevs [makes hummus anyway].

Could something like that not have worked? Or work for a similar future scenario?

As you know too well, you have bigger fish to try (not least the holiday, sex and pregnancy matters on this thread).

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