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5 amazing dates and now red flags

40 replies

Carouselfish · 18/07/2018 11:45

Long one, sorry.
I know I have to dump him. Don't I?

Bloody OLD. Met lovely man, handsome, talks lot, sensible job aged 40, and the first few dates we've had have been 6-12 hours long talking and laughing and clicking like nobodies business. And kissing, very amazing. Thought I'd finally met the mythical (for me) man who it worked with physically and mentally. We were both so keen to see each other as soon as we left each other. He told his friends and colleagues who have tried to set him up the last four years that he'd met someone great etc
On the almost daily calls we'd have in-between he was a little different. A few misunderstandings, I'd be annoyed he'd say it was a joke, he'd misunderstand me and get all offended. He said he hated being misjudged, it made him angry. I used to have a temper too so this isn't necessarily a deal breaker for me.
Cut to night of finally sleeping together. We'd had a disagreement the night before over my good friendship with my dds dad and I was feeling a bit sensitive that we'd be calling it a day over this.
Went round and he was quite casual, lacking in interest to talk or kiss. Brushed off any attempts to talk. I asked tongue in cheek if he'd reassigned me to potential casual shag rather than romantic interest now? Wanting reassurance really. And understatement, he took it really badly. Said it was an attack on his character, he'd never do that and he couldn't possibly touch (or frankly look at me) for the rest of the night. It was like an Amish shun. Lay in bed together, his body clearly up for it but mentally he was just switched off!!
I drove home after some disappointing morning fumbles initiated by me and just thought, fuck this! I can't walk on eggshells waiting for him to sulk or shun me for a misunderstood innocent word. Can I?
And I got home to a totally normal, casual text from him and started to doubt my decision.
But, it's not me, is it?!

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Zaphodsotherhead · 18/07/2018 14:57

I wonder if his approach is a type of 'negging' - designed to keep you on the back foot and always 'trying harder'. If you'd been a different type of person, OP, do you think he would have wanted you to try to 'woo him round' when he was lying next to you in the bed? Maybe lots of abject apologies and promises to never contradict him again?

Anyway, he's a jerk. NEXT!

NordicNobody · 18/07/2018 15:57

I can't walk on eggshells waiting for him to sulk or shun me for a misunderstood innocent word. Can I?

Nope. This is the low level stuff, easing you in. Then he'll step it up, frog in hot water style, until you're getting week long silent treatment for disagreeing with him. Ruuuuun.

AgentJohnson · 18/07/2018 17:27

You didn’t know him! You were getting to know him and now you know him a little better, he isn’t for you. Dating is an opportunity to get to know someone so next time don’t over invest too quickly, it was only five dates for crying out loud.

The comment about him possibly downgrading you to a casual shag wasn’t a joke or an ice breaker to a difficult discussion, it was a PA move and I personally would not have stuck around for more.

chestylarue52 · 18/07/2018 20:53

This is the part where he’s supposed to be showing you absolutely the best of him. And you’re already seeing red flags left right and centre. You know what to do.

Carouselfish · 19/07/2018 18:32

agent Nope not pa move. I honestly expected the answer ' don't be silly babe' and asked it because his mood was so much less romantic than it had been. I know my own intentions thank you and was surprised how they were taken as a personal insult when they were about my insecurities. Yeah, five dates once a week lasting ridiculously long times and hours of phone calls every night. Both of us single four years never hitting it off so well with anyone.
I pulled the plug yesterday. He was so lovely about it, it's made it a lot harder.

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Falulah · 19/07/2018 21:00

WOw. agree with previous posters. Not healthy. Do not pursue any further !!

MrsMozart · 19/07/2018 21:03

Step away. It's meant to be fun!

Gretagumbo · 19/07/2018 21:04

karl Marx stag do

Grin
VetOnCall · 19/07/2018 21:12

Don't cave in now, you've done the right thing and if you went back I'd bet my house you'd regret it before long. 5 dates really is nothing, I've done a lot of OLD myself and lots of messaging etc. can build up a false intimacy but it's impossible to really know someone at that early stage. Fortunately for you it hasn't taken long to realise that he's not right for you. Having arguments with someone just a few weeks/5 dates in is a massive red flag in itself, way too much too soon.

Carouselfish · 20/07/2018 00:56

Cheers vet and others for encouragement. I know the rule about not getting emotionally involved too soon but God it's hard, even at my ripe old age of 37, not to be romantically hopeful when all the elusive boxes are ticked (which up to this point, they were). OLD can fuck right off for a while.

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VetOnCall · 20/07/2018 19:41

Tell me about it, I'm also 37 and also dating, it's a bloody minefield! Gin Grin

lisasimpsonssaxophone · 20/07/2018 20:13

So glad you’ve ended it. I couldn’t get past him arguing with you about your friendship with your daughter’s dad after only a few dates. No one gets to dictate how you parent your own child, but especially not some guy you’ve only just met.

It sounds like he enjoys being angry with you and actively revels in it. My ex was like this and I so wish I had listened to my gut the first time that he blew up at me and sulked over some tiny disagreement. This man will relish every opportunity to tell you that you’ve wronged him in some way, until you’re just a shell of a person who daren’t have a personality for fear of putting a foot wrong with him.

Lucky, lucky escape!

Sally2791 · 20/07/2018 20:29

Run.no need to waste any more time on this one

Carouselfish · 29/07/2018 23:39

Just an update. Had to re break up with him as he was still texting me every day and we fell back into a friendly pattern but didn't meet up. He was blowing hot and cold and I was put on a stupid rollercoaster of hopefulness and then crushed again. Took a week of this and then finished once and for all. Deleted everything. It was not easy so to those saying it's a strong thing to do, I was very weak and it's taken so much effort to stay strong. We had amazing chemistry and I'm still very sad.

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sunflowergarden · 29/07/2018 23:49

Just reading through all the posts then see you just posted again, keep strong he's a bell end and knows he has some control on you emotionally, look in the mirror see your worth because six months to a year down the line if you carry on with him and then re look in that mirror you will be a broken soul. Block everything little steps straight line and keep looking forward, you can do this x

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